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Tashohnie

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On my level 29 sin I dropped a 40 + archer np. Then again I also dropped a 43 sin and a 40 + warrior -.-

Sins cause me no end of trouble if played well, lucky enough we have the only good sins in our guild.
 

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On my level 29 sin I dropped a 40 + archer np. Then again I also dropped a 43 sin and a 40 + warrior -.-

Sins cause me no end of trouble if played well, lucky enough we have the only good sins in our guild.

Watch out your head might explode!
 

Tashohnie

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Watch out your head might explode!
Doubt it, been god tier for so long now... if I wasn't able to handle #winning and being on the level I am then my head would have exploded a long time ago..
 

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What good is SwiftFeet if your dead in 1-2hits? Crescent slash, still have to be fairly close to target for it to land. Assassin is melee, we need to use atleast 3-4 hits of 20-30dmg before yellow procs, which then lasts for 1-2 seconds.. Which is not Enuff to burst down anyone... Unless you have luck7 and 48371662 DC... What sins need is a hard hitting skill, on a cooldown like FlameSword but maybe 20secs or summin CD, like an backstabb or an assassination type skill... Not a copy of moonlight and another proc skill like fatal sword (haemorrhage)...

Every sinlge one of your posts are massively exaggerated. Assassins don't die in 1 hit from any class / spell. (Warriors can maybe 2-3 hit a 40+ Assassin if they are red poisoned, the first TDB yellows and hits with max DC and then the FS hits max too. Now that yellow will be nerfed, this won't happen anymore anyway). Yellow doesn't last for 1-2 seconds at all.

We did some testing last night and I can confirm that Assassins, along with all other classes will be a lot more balanced after the adjustments are put into place.

Everyone wants their class to be on par with other classes but trying to make out that a certain class is useless when everyone knows they can be very effective is just giving the team more of a headache than need be.
 

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What good is SwiftFeet if your dead in 1-2hits? Crescent slash, still have to be fairly close to target for it to land. Assassin is melee, we need to use atleast 3-4 hits of 20-30dmg before yellow procs, which then lasts for 1-2 seconds.. Which is not Enuff to burst down anyone... Unless you have luck7 and 48371662 DC... What sins need is a hard hitting skill, on a cooldown like FlameSword but maybe 20secs or summin CD, like an backstabb or an assassination type skill... Not a copy of moonlight and another proc skill like fatal sword (haemorrhage)...

Give up, your not one of sams fan boys, there for everything you say is invalid.
 

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Doubt it, been god tier for so long now... if I wasn't able to handle #winning and being on the level I am then my head would have exploded a long time ago..

The pinnacle of life has been reached. Your friends and family must be so proud!

Being able to play online games better than others isn't something to boast about.
 

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The pinnacle of life has been reached. Your friends and family must be so proud!

Being able to play online games better than others isn't something to boast about.
I have a gold plaque with my name engraved "Tashohnie; god tier of mir 2000-2014."

You seem to lack the want to be better than others, this is what games and anything that has any sort of competitive aspect are about, being better than others but most people that have your attitude do not become not because they don't want to but because they can't.

Spell isn't over powered in the slightest, people seriously need to learn to play.

I'm an archer and I don't have problems dealing with AB, I have a lower HP pool than a sin and can deal with archers fine, even on my low level sin I can deal with them fine. Most people don't use the tools to their advantage and stand and bang or derp. The amount of times I start fighting people and think... damn this guy knows how to deal with archers then about 10 seconds later it becomes apparent he doesn't and it was just coincidence.

I am curious about the damage of AB at level 3 in high DC, only then could you even begin to say something is OP, it's fine as it is.

People cried that static shot was OP, I could understand that I really could and feel the nerf to it has balanced it somewhat, albeit nerfed us hard for our leveling but still with that nerf it has made the spell stronger but I swear I'm the only archer who utilizes this spell to maximize the potential of it.
 
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I have a gold plaque with my name engraved "Tashohnie; god tier of mir 2000-2014."

You seem to lack the want to be better than others, this is what games and anything that has any sort of competitive aspect are about, being better than others but most people that have your attitude do not become not because they don't want to but because they can't.

Spell isn't over powered in the slightest, people seriously need to learn to play.

I'm an archer and I don't have problems dealing with AB, I have a lower HP pool than a sin and can deal with archers fine, even on my low level sin I can deal with them fine. Most people don't use the tools to their advantage and stand and bang or derp. The amount of times I start fighting people and think... damn this guy knows how to deal with archers then about 10 seconds later it becomes apparent he doesn't and it was just coincidence.

I am curious about the damage of AB at level 3 in high DC, only then could you even begin to say something is OP, it's fine as it is.

People cried that static shot was OP, I could understand that I really could and feel the nerf to it has balanced it somewhat, albeit nerfed us hard for our leveling but still with that nerf it has made the spell stronger but I swear I'm the only archer who utilizes this spell to maximize the potential of it.

People are on about melee vs archer not archer vs archer two totally different situations.... And of course you can tell a spell is OP before level 3, if a skill is doing 200+ dmg at level 0/1 wtf isit gna do at level 3 lol? 400+? That's one shot sin/archer/Tao, the only reason your against archer nerfs is becoz you are one, and why Sam listens to you lot I don't know...
 

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who has arrow barrage in game at 0/1? im the only person to have it and its level 2 and it didnt even hit over 150 at lvl 1 wow people sharp jump on the bandwagon.
 

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People are on about melee vs archer not archer vs archer two totally different situations.... And of course you can tell a spell is OP before level 3, if a skill is doing 200+ dmg at level 0/1 wtf isit gna do at level 3 lol? 400+? That's one shot sin/archer/Tao, the only reason your against archer nerfs is becoz you are one, and why Sam listens to you lot I don't know...
Even the melee though just faceplant and don't understand, there are so many things melee can do to wreck an archer which is why I target them when I play my sin. I'm not giving away hims and tips on how to beat my class people will have to work them out for themselves.

Sam doesn't listen to me in the slightest, he listens to clueless people who are dirt players and always have been terrible and don't understand the game. There is a reason the same people are always top tier it's because they understand the game mechanics and think outside the box. Archers excel in some aspects but are pony in others. I've started a Sin as I can see the more cries there are about archers (aka Static Shot) the more nerfs they will get.
 

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Excala can't fight anyway so np

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. There is a reason the same people are always top tier it's because they understand the game mechanics and think outside the box.

This is Mir. It will never be a complex game to have to try and understand a lot.
 

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I have a gold plaque with my name engraved "Tashohnie; god tier of mir 2000-2014."

You seem to lack the want to be better than others, this is what games and anything that has any sort of competitive aspect are about, being better than others but most people that have your attitude do not become not because they don't want to but because they can't.

Spell isn't over powered in the slightest, people seriously need to learn to play.

I'm an archer and I don't have problems dealing with AB, I have a lower HP pool than a sin and can deal with archers fine, even on my low level sin I can deal with them fine. Most people don't use the tools to their advantage and stand and bang or derp. The amount of times I start fighting people and think... damn this guy knows how to deal with archers then about 10 seconds later it becomes apparent he doesn't and it was just coincidence.

I am curious about the damage of AB at level 3 in high DC, only then could you even begin to say something is OP, it's fine as it is.

People cried that static shot was OP, I could understand that I really could and feel the nerf to it has balanced it somewhat, albeit nerfed us hard for our leveling but still with that nerf it has made the spell stronger but I swear I'm the only archer who utilizes this spell to maximize the potential of it.

I've got a plaque with my name etc on it aswell. Unfortunately not for my 15yr old gaming abilities though :( .

On topic. Leave all the skills alone. If in 6 months AB or whatever skill ppl moan about is 1 hitting EvilMir then change it
 

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Agree, it amazes me though the state of some people.

your ability to wind people up in half a sentence makes me chuckle :)
indo agree tho propel complain coz they don't know how to play their class lol. For every ying is a yang, people cry about every class coz another class kills them, it's coz they think they are good only to be handed their arse to them then the only reasonable explanation of why they died is the skill is clearly OP that killed them, they can't accept the fact people are better,

archers die very fast if you target them properly, they need to be able to do a high amount of damage fast,
sins need low Hp coz they can do a high amount of damage fast

If a sin got to an archer, archers dead, so archer needs to be able to slow an or nuke down that target fast, sins option? Sun pots and utilise your spells,
 
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no u.

An Assassin with SwiftFeet and CresentSlash is going to be a force to be reckoned with... Thats not taking into consideration when we introduce haemorrhage...

ArrowBarrage is one of archers utility spells in pvp, it is also less effective against players than monsters and I am sure the above is taken from a mob hit.

Sam

In the current state no one will ever, ever get level 3 (and prolly very few even level 1) cresent slash so it is sort of a mute point. Cant balance a server based on skills no one will ever have. Do a quick estimate of how many hours you would have to level at consistently getting 1.5mil exp per hour to get level 56.
 

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In the current state no one will ever, ever get level 3 (and prolly very few even level 1) cresent slash so it is sort of a mute point. Cant balance a server based on skills no one will ever have. Do a quick estimate of how many hours you would have to level at consistently getting 1.5mil exp per hour to get level 56.

good point lets quickly change it from LOW rate to HIGH rate to keep people happy :)
just so people can have all skills n items maxed in a couple of month and not the YEARS Sams ideal was
 

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good point lets quickly change it from LOW rate to HIGH rate to keep people happy :)
just so people can have all skills n items maxed in a couple of month and not the YEARS Sams ideal was

I would surmise you don't understand the exp on this server. To give you a really general ideal you need something like 5-6 billion exp for level 56. If we give someone a generous average of 2 million exp per hour. You end up with 4000 hours worth of leveling. If you take a player who does nothing but level 2 hours per day it will take them 2000 days to level (5.5 years or leveling every single day) if its someone who levels 40 hours a week as a full time job? It will still take them 1.9 years of level as a full time job. Now sure there are exceptions, get really good gear maybe you can level 4 times as fast....The casual player will max out the CURRENT content (not added content, but the content that is already in the game) in 500 days of straight leveling.

You probably don't know that this server is set at a lower rate than euro. The experience needed to level doubles at level 44 and the exp is at roughly 1.5 euro rates from monster (depending on which ones your killing)