with speed gems ingame now and warriors easily gaining speed 5-6+ is there any plans to increase sins attack speed or we jus gnna stay shafted?
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- Apr 25, 2014
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What I am about to say is all from memory, I haven't played any server other than chronicles and euro so please if I'm wrong correct me as I'd love to know if I am mistaken in my ten year old knowledge!
old stats: max aspeed (16) it didn't make you twice as fast as now, it was just doubled and each single stat had half the effect.
smash set +2
gale necklace + 4
dragonsword + 2
storm gem + 1
blackdragonslayer -2
now that the a speed is half on this server, so each stat has twice the impact:
smash set is twice as effective at increasing speed
gale necklace is the same as it has been reduced to + 2
dragonsword is twice as effextive at increasing speed
storm gems are twice as effective at increasing speed
blackdragonslayer has double the negative impact at speed
if that's wrong then another possible cause is toggling slaying and being able to tdb every hit, makes a warrior seem to hit faster than he used to.
However IMO they are fine as they are, a warrior could buy all his **** and end up with ridiculous DC and some aspeed, an assassin with the same effort could get L7 fates and higher DC kit because they're not storm genming it.
old stats: max aspeed (16) it didn't make you twice as fast as now, it was just doubled and each single stat had half the effect.
smash set +2
gale necklace + 4
dragonsword + 2
storm gem + 1
blackdragonslayer -2
now that the a speed is half on this server, so each stat has twice the impact:
smash set is twice as effective at increasing speed
gale necklace is the same as it has been reduced to + 2
dragonsword is twice as effextive at increasing speed
storm gems are twice as effective at increasing speed
blackdragonslayer has double the negative impact at speed
if that's wrong then another possible cause is toggling slaying and being able to tdb every hit, makes a warrior seem to hit faster than he used to.
However IMO they are fine as they are, a warrior could buy all his **** and end up with ridiculous DC and some aspeed, an assassin with the same effort could get L7 fates and higher DC kit because they're not storm genming it.
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Ok so probably not the most helpful post I see your point but there are better ways to go about requesting a change.
Warrs are now in the position. To hit the attack speed cap which means sins lose that high speed advantage they once had. So will there be some changes made to make sins less redundant.
Are you planning to give sins a defensive spell?
or are you planning on addingn some class specific items so sins can only wear them and they give added agility without the current loss of dc we get while wearing evasion kit?
or is crescent slash going to give sins that damage boost they will need to take on a warrior?
the main problem is due to warrs being able to now hit max attack speed and spam tdb at the same time.
Warrs are now in the position. To hit the attack speed cap which means sins lose that high speed advantage they once had. So will there be some changes made to make sins less redundant.
Are you planning to give sins a defensive spell?
or are you planning on addingn some class specific items so sins can only wear them and they give added agility without the current loss of dc we get while wearing evasion kit?
or is crescent slash going to give sins that damage boost they will need to take on a warrior?
the main problem is due to warrs being able to now hit max attack speed and spam tdb at the same time.
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I created a post similar to the awhile ago.
As far as sams concered its fair the way ot is, i asked BH for an opinion and after realising that a war ONLY need +2 from gems to hit cap he said he could see my point...
Nothing has been done and i dont expect anything to come from it.
Dsword+2 galeneck+2 smash set +2(ring n brace)
Its a bloody joke.
As far as sams concered its fair the way ot is, i asked BH for an opinion and after realising that a war ONLY need +2 from gems to hit cap he said he could see my point...
Nothing has been done and i dont expect anything to come from it.
Dsword+2 galeneck+2 smash set +2(ring n brace)
Its a bloody joke.
that would mean a warrior is stuck on about 40-50 dc. he would need stupid aspd for that to hurt lol. maybe 60 DC if he gets extremely lucky with DC gems.
a sin can gem for full DC which as far as im aware has a greater chance of success compared to stormgems. so a sin cana double a warriors DC and have max aspd. while a warrior has to be running around in level 30 kit.
Sins seem fine to me lol, getting my face cut right off by alot of sins these days, i ant see me having more aspeed would help me greatly in that matter, why you think sins need more advantages i do not know lol, pretty soon there will be a skill ingame that lets u sneak up on ppl and more often than not that will result in a kill
I just compare dmg archer (range class) to mine. War got same dmg as me + more hp + more def ac/amc + body weight (make them more tanky) and now when they get same a speed as sins they will be just fking buffed sins...
just to clarify if attk speed was increase i would also say Dmg wud need 2 be decreased and the Luck system also to go back to official way,
luck 7 is too easy to get here and my personal opinion and has been from day 1, hit to hard and hit 2 slow, shud be hit fast with avg hits
luck 7 is too easy to get here and my personal opinion and has been from day 1, hit to hard and hit 2 slow, shud be hit fast with avg hits
People been saying this since day one, and now it's here the sins class on this server is even more worthless..
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Who is "easily gaining" 5-6 speed? I haven't seen a single person with that who doesn't massively nerf their DC in the process and I can't even think of a way to do it without losing about half of your top end DC (from necky, ring, brace, wep)
dsword, gale necky smash set... is 6 which is crazy easy... a little harder, smash set d sword and speed 1 necky/speed 1 ring at which point the DC and speed are close to a sin but with an on demand flame sword and a skill that pierces through ac. This doesn't include rage, double the HP, more AC/AMC and bag weight.....
Rest of the skills? swift feet=shoulderdash, heavenly sword=thrust/BA, both get the ACC, agility = prowall, only thing left is poison sword(mostly useless). flash dash + double slash= a terribly crappy version of TDB. Only thing really left is moonlight to compensate for everything else.
Anything gained by the haste skill is almost immediately lost DSS=40DC, Royalblades=29DC
Rest of the skills? swift feet=shoulderdash, heavenly sword=thrust/BA, both get the ACC, agility = prowall, only thing left is poison sword(mostly useless). flash dash + double slash= a terribly crappy version of TDB. Only thing really left is moonlight to compensate for everything else.
Anything gained by the haste skill is almost immediately lost DSS=40DC, Royalblades=29DC
lmao u joking right? sins fking cain right now.. their are 4 luck7 sin weps on server.. so it cant be that hard to get luck7 with shadow step and they are by far the strongest class should come ingame and see it for yourself... Sins are fine damage and tanking wise and always have been just your a noob sin low lvl shop kit sins are who are moaning on this thread...lol
No. I dnt have standard shop kit.
And still feel fking weak vs all clases in game and mobs. Now cant even solo izt while tao can do it with shop items and nob lvl ...
- Apr 25, 2014
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If you're referring to me it used to take me 25 minutes to lure and solo izt at lvl 38, if I duo with a sin it takes 2 minutes, hardly the advantage of the century.
i go PB or BDD with a sin or a warrior and I can tell you no one out damages an assassin, i go PB with a 75 DC aspeed 4 warrior lvl 44, or a lvl 37 DC 60 luck 5 assassin and the sin is almost double the speed taking into account the fact we can kill mobs one by one in massive lures just because he can do moonlight.
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And don't say oh it's because he has luck 5, luck 2 is 15% chance to hit max and luck 5 is 33%
My blades of magi with dc80 I was ripping through mobs a bit slower than luck7 dc 64. Had higher base witch if people knew how base worked on sins everyone would be terrified of euros hs. Lol