Banned for hacking?

[Koriban]

This thread should be stickied throughout all of LOMCN as a reminder that, and I'm paraphrasing a golden oldy here from our Euro days,

"Account sharing leads to trouble in 99% of all cases."

 

[Notwhatyouthink]

This thread should be stickied throughout all of LOMCN as a reminder that, and I'm paraphrasing a golden oldy here from our Euro days,

"Account sharing leads to trouble in 99% of all cases."

Yeah but NORMALLY, account sharing problems are not dealt with by the GM's/admins, which is fine, but the NEXT time this **** happens, its gonna be expected that you guys sort it. Just gonna be headaches lol

 

[Reverance]

[video=youtube;xwdba9C2G14]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14[/video]

 

[Jamie]

Yeah but NORMALLY, account sharing problems are not dealt with by the GM's/admins

SpanishPowa did NOT share his account with you.

 

[Notwhatyouthink]

[05 June 2018 17:24:26]: /kissofdeath i am gonna play my warrior a little i think
[05 June 2018 17:24:30]: KissOfDeath=> i change helm to wind
[05 June 2018 17:24:32]: /kissofdeath coz wiz useless with niels
[05 June 2018 17:24:34]: /kissofdeath he lag too bad
[05 June 2018 17:24:42]: KissOfDeath=> u wanna log
[05 June 2018 17:24:44]: KissOfDeath=> kod now?
[05 June 2018 17:24:46]: KissOfDeath=> i kill
[05 June 2018 17:24:52]: KissOfDeath=> hp boss i log m8
[05 June 2018 17:24:54]: /kissofdeath no coz that party guild ALWAYS gank me m8
[05 June 2018 17:25:03]: KissOfDeath=> ah
[05 June 2018 17:25:04]: /kissofdeath all time 2v1
[05 June 2018 17:25:07]: /kissofdeath and make me sad haha
[05 June 2018 17:25:36]: KissOfDeath=> they are so noobs man
[05 June 2018 17:25:39]: Your war with TheGreatWall has ended.
[05 June 2018 17:25:40]: /Sagat can u send it back to me pls
[05 June 2018 17:25:42]: KissOfDeath=> i declarated war
[05 June 2018 17:25:48]: KissOfDeath=> vs TGW and party guild atm
[05 June 2018 17:25:50]: (!@)CremeEgg: Looks pretty interesting, nice work
[05 June 2018 17:26:19]: /Sagat mail it this char i will store it and he will stop moaning then
[05 June 2018 17:26:32]: KissOfDeath=> u wanna war?
[05 June 2018 17:26:37]: KissOfDeath=> i got a war
[05 June 2018 17:26:43]: /KissOfDeath which lvl
[05 June 2018 17:26:44]: Your Partner is waiting for you to Accept Trade...
[05 June 2018 17:26:47]: KissOfDeath=> spanishpowa
[05 June 2018 17:26:48]: You gained Holy Bracer Of Grace.
[05 June 2018 17:26:48]: Trade Complete..
[05 June 2018 17:26:52]: /KissOfDeath hmm
[05 June 2018 17:26:59]: /KissOfDeath my defiance is lvl 75, SP is higher?
[05 June 2018 17:27:05]: MaS: ty
[05 June 2018 17:27:08]: Sagat=> ty
[05 June 2018 17:27:12]: KissOfDeath=> check kit
[05 June 2018 17:27:19]: (!@)Kubwaker: GalacticFilth will re roll his wep i think
[05 June 2018 17:27:21]: Sagat=> any DL items 4 sell ?
[05 June 2018 17:27:28]: /KissOfDeath ye i will play that warrior!
[05 June 2018 17:27:30]: Sagat=> or sacred armour parts?
[05 June 2018 17:27:43]: KissOfDeath=> wait killing boss
[05 June 2018 17:27:46]: /KissOfDeath np m8
[05 June 2018 17:27:58]: /KissOfDeath when done, send me details i will leave guild so tomorrow can rejoin ours
[05 June 2018 17:28:02]: /KissOfDeath if thats ok ?
[05 June 2018 17:28:09]: /Sagat possibly, i am not 100%
[05 June 2018 17:28:27]: /Sagat i speak with him when he comes on today
[05 June 2018 17:28:31]: /Sagat if he in better mood
[05 June 2018 17:28:36]: KissOfDeath=> sorry what
[05 June 2018 17:28:36]: Sagat=> u have brace part in guild store ...\
[05 June 2018 17:28:39]: KissOfDeath=> i killed boss
[05 June 2018 17:28:44]: KissOfDeath=> spamed alot cash still
[05 June 2018 17:28:45]: /KissOfDeath i said, if is ok
[05 June 2018 17:28:48]: /KissOfDeath i will leave guild on SP
[05 June 2018 17:28:53]: /KissOfDeath and rejoin ours tomorrow evening
[05 June 2018 17:29:04]: /KissOfDeath for now i just do some farming armours inside hyun
[05 June 2018 17:30:14]: (!@)Drakay: so really it'sonly worth while if you have a luck3/4 elite weap
[05 June 2018 17:30:56]: (!@)KingTony: just seems like you can get same stats as edged weps so its just mainly for wep skins?
[05 June 2018 17:31:11]: Users Online: 92, Observers Online: 13
[05 June 2018 17:31:11]: You currently have 0 observers.
[05 June 2018 17:31:31]: (!@)Zester: now i wanna make a wodden sword hmmmm
[05 June 2018 17:31:40]: (!@)Drakay: if you have a luck 4 elite weap from benes its worth doin i guess
[05 June 2018 17:31:56]: SpanishPowa=>
[05 June 2018 17:32:03]: SpanishPowa=> u there=
[05 June 2018 17:32:15]: (!@)CremeEgg: Does reset cooldown stop you from doing the crafting?
[05 June 2018 17:32:16]: /SpanishPowa ye
[05 June 2018 17:32:18]: (!@)KingTony: getting luck 4 if just like getting luck 4 on any wep tho?
[05 June 2018 17:32:20]: SpanishPowa=> details
[05 June 2018 17:32:41]: (!@)Kubwaker: GalacticFilth gonna roll wish him lucjk
[05 June 2018 17:32:41]: (!@)Valen: just a way of upgrading the now-**** superior and elite weps i think
[05 June 2018 17:32:48]: SpanishPowa=> [email protected]
[05 June 2018 17:32:54]: SpanishPowa=> pw: FwZTgBzeM8

 

[Koriban]

Yeah but NORMALLY, account sharing problems are not dealt with by the GM's/admins, which is fine, but the NEXT time this **** happens, its gonna be expected that you guys sort it. Just gonna be headaches lol

You're misunderstood here. We've dealt with countless account sharing problems before, and still do. If a user reports they've been hacked, we have an obligation to investigate. Naturally, you wouldn't know what goes on behind the scenes, but to assume we take the same role as Euro's GM's and "do nothing" is not only false but worrying. I mean jesus christ, to get a dev reply on Euro the stars had to align, your name had to be Jesus and you had to be born under a solar eclipse. What an awful precedent to expect.

 

[Jamie]

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[05 June 2018 17:32:48]: SpanishPowa=> [email protected]
[05 June 2018 17:32:54]: SpanishPowa=> pw: ##

yes i had access to spanishpowa too, i can paste the convo where Own (spanish powas brother) gives me acces...

You clearly knew that it was not the owner of SpanishPowa

 

[Notwhatyouthink]

SpanishPowa did NOT share his account with you.

then how did i get access to it?

i got pm'd the details.

Are you saying i could go round pming ppl my details, and then IF they log on it, and i say SOMEONE says they got hacked, everyone gets banned?

 

[Xythas]

On behalf of most of the user count - :

hahahahahhahahaahahahahaha.

 

[Notwhatyouthink]

On behalf of most of the user count - :

hahahahahhahahaahahahahaha.

And thats probably 99% of the reason i got banned, not because of the incidents, but more because i play the ****y role on this game

 

[Jamie]

then how did i get access to it?

i got pm'd the details.

Are you saying i could go round pming ppl my details, and then IF they log on it, and i say SOMEONE says they got hacked, everyone gets banned?

You believe that if someone gives you a ID/Password to an account, you have a right to logon and strip the account without any value.

Real Life scenario:
You hear or see the password to a vault which has money in it, you now believe that you have the right to just use that password and take the money?

 

[Xythas]

And thats probably 99% of the reason i got banned, not because of the incidents, but more because i play the ****y role on this game

I really wish that was the case however its not. Jamie is just as big of a bell end as you when playing so not really going to be his style..

 

[Notwhatyouthink]

You believe that if someone gives you a ID/Password to an account, you have a right to logon and strip the account without any value.

Real Life scenario:
You hear or see the password to a vault which has money in it, you now believe that you have the right to just use that password and take the money?

Why are you comparing real life and mir?

On mir, its kinda known that if you hand your password out to people, it tends to end in disaster and you end up being robbed.

In real life, i dont think many ppl would be giving out their bank pin willy nilly, and even then if they get robbed then more fool them im afraid, im also fairly certain all you'd be given is a crime number from the police, not a full on investigation and arrest (a ban on mir)

comparing the two things really doesnt work, anyone can type a sentence and make it sound fancy.

Only saving grace from this is that the world cup starts next week, so i wouldnt have been playing AS much.

Still a shitty thing to do banning all my chars, irrespective of how you try to act all whiteknighty like your doing it because its in your nature! haha

Are you gonna rewind all the money etc from the comms merchant sales from said items? Afterall that would be fair no? Or are you only half fair in the fact you'll just blanket ban?

 

[Koriban]

The original owners, of both characters, need to tell us they're okay with you being on the account still. Then you can be unbanned.

Which I assume is going to be a problem, because you've just inevitably destroyed that bridge by not talking to them and removing all their gear and betraying their trust.

Just because someone says you're okay to log onto an account, doesn't mean you own the account.

 

[CremeEgg82]

You're misunderstood here. We've dealt with countless account sharing problems before, and still do. If a user reports they've been hacked, we have an obligation to investigate. Naturally, you wouldn't know what goes on behind the scenes, but to assume we take the same role as Euro's GM's and "do nothing" is not only false but worrying. I mean jesus christ, to get a dev reply on Euro the stars had to align, your name had to be Jesus and you had to be born under a solar eclipse. What an awful precedent to expect.

Nah you just needed them on MSN Messenger, or to call the office.

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You believe that if someone gives you a ID/Password to an account, you have a right to logon and strip the account without any value.

Real Life scenario:
You hear or see the password to a vault which has money in it, you now believe that you have the right to just use that password and take the money?

Better one, just because someone leaves the door unlocked doesn't mean you can burgle them.

 

[Xythas]

KoD - :

Did you take stuff off the accounts that had been on there before you was given the details or did you only take off what you had earned through the characters on the accounts in question? If it was the former then I'm going to hazard a guess you assumed you was given full rights/access to the accounts in question?

 

[Koriban]

KoD - :

Did you take stuff off the accounts that had been on there before you was given the details or did you only take off what you had earned through the characters on the accounts in question? If it was the former then I'm going to hazard a guess you assumed you was given full rights/access to the accounts in question?

I think you know the answer to this question :loyal:

 

[Notwhatyouthink]

KoD - :

Did you take stuff off the accounts that had been on there before you was given the details or did you only take off what you had earned through the characters on the accounts in question? If it was the former then I'm going to hazard a guess you assumed you was given full rights/access to the accounts in question?

When i started playing kod, it was level 71 in a level 38 weapon with a brown horse... when i stopped it was level 78 with a black horse, emblem, 2 elite sin weps nice luck and a nice edge wep, real kod played Rotilia

I guess taking spanishpowas stuff was a bit harsh, but such is life . I was given access by who i thought was the original owner (as far as im aware , 2 spaniards shared spanishpowa, pablo and miguel?), 9 times out of 10, nothing happens from account sharing problems, im not ashamed to say it, but ive robbed things on several occasions and if given the opportunity i will do it again - i am not to be trusted with other peoples accounts.

 

[Xythas]

I guess taking spanishpowas stuff was a bit harsh, but such is life . I was given access by who i thought was the original owner (as far as im aware , 2 spaniards shared spanishpowa, pablo and miguel?), 9 times out of 10, nothing happens from account sharing problems, im not ashamed to say it, but ive robbed things on several occasions and if given the opportunity i will do it again - i am not to be trusted with other peoples accounts.

There we go Koriban, There is a reason i ask these things.

 

[Koriban]

I guess taking spanishpowas stuff was a bit harsh, but such is life . I was given access by who i thought was the original owner (as far as im aware , 2 spaniards shared spanishpowa, pablo and miguel?), 9 times out of 10, nothing happens from account sharing problems, im not ashamed to say it, but ive robbed things on several occasions and if given the opportunity i will do it again - i am not to be trusted with other peoples accounts.

Straight from the hourses mouth, folks.