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phoenixdancer

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A little moan if I may.

As many know, I tend to shy away from PvP if I can help it. I may join in with a friendly scuffle now and again; I DONT go out of my way to fight or aim to kill people.

I have been playing this server prob just as long as many of the highest level players and yet I have only 5 player kills on my stats sheet. Most of which are from friendly in guild fights or a couple of scraps I couldn't avoid.

I don't have that many good items, but now I have the lost the main item I had which was "only" a Dragon Slayer. You may think its a cheap item, but when you only play the game in your spare time (which is 1 hour a day at most) it's actually a big deal.

BUT I digress, this is not a thread where I am crying all over my keyboard like a child due to dropping an item within a game.
This thread is purely to vent my frustrations in regards to 'Body Drops' & 'Town Teleport'.

I have had 0 PK points for weeks. Which means I should have the least possible chance to drop an item off my body.
Yes, there is a slight risk based on how Jamie has coded the game, BUT I find it wholly unfair that your able to drop from the body what so ever unless you have at least 1 PK point.

My main issue is the teleport spell.

I ran down to see what was going on inside Yims. I was then faced with firewall and god knows what else which took me from 840HP down to 0 within 3-5 seconds.

In this time I used Teleport TWICE - of which BOTH - Yes BOTH - Failed.

This killed me - Without breaking stone I may add.. Odd?
I then dropped my DSS.

I then had a little rant to my guild, did a little rage quit and did some work for tomorrow instead.
(sorry to guild mates who i swore at).



Let this be a lesson to all people here.
  • Teleport is stupid - It CAN fail more than once.
  • You WILL drop your most prized items when you drop even with 0 PK points.
  • Many Core members are nice people :)

Anyway, catch you all later in game.


I am accepting donations for the "Help buy new sword for care bear fund"
Mail - PhoenixDanger
Anything is much appreciated :lol
 
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Reverance

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While I agree TTing failing is a ****ing nuisance. Body dropping is part of the game.

First death I had on my tao I dropped a Green Neck.
 
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Was just a luck+1 d slayer lul, we've had 3 in last 2 days don't cry.Seen that in chat though :( Sly Kori bullying noobs again.P.s You've tried to attack me in RC before so don't say you don't pk lol.
 

Hastelloy

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We were going to return it to be fair but Kenpachi instructed the guild to roll on it. Something about you saying his armor looked ****?
 

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Same thing happened to me. Been playing server for 2 months now, 0 player kills, 0 deaths. First time I die due to a sin stealthing up right behind me and a failed teleport, I drop my most valuable item.
 

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We were going to return it to be fair but Kenpachi instructed the guild to roll on it. Something about you saying his armor looked ****?







stop trolling -.- , unlucky Phoenix, im sure you will get another soon
 

GeeDee

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I agree with Phoenix. Although his DSS ain't exactly rare, it's still a big deal for him as he doesn't play often.

He levelled to 43 today, seemed quite chuffed with himself, then on a simple guild hunt loses his best item. Something that could take him days (weeks) to get another of.

I think that everyone should have at least a chance to escape the possibility of getting PK'd, but with the stupid amount of damage everyone does (wiz with 120mc, sins with peekaboo double slash and warriors hitting 500 fswords) coupled with the fact that you can't use an God damn town teleport on this server, makes it almost impossible for people to escape been PK'd - even if you're smart enough to know you can't win a fight, sometimes you don't get the choice to avoid it!

I know Jamie loves a good pk fight, but not everyone does. However without Tt in game, people are gonna die and drop, even if they hate to pvp.
 

JustAUser

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The teleport skill failing will make lots rage quit...it's buggy with slow/blue and non rt maps.

I suffered this 'bug' and dropped my DoS book 90seconds after tabbing it phaha

Mirlyf
 

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The teleport skill failing will make lots rage quit...it's buggy with slow/blue and non rt maps.

I suffered this 'bug' and dropped my DoS book 90seconds after tabbing it phaha

Mirlyf



What is buggy about Teleport on No-RT maps, they have no interactions what so ever.

What is buggy with teleport when Blue? You literally cannot use it.

and Finally could you tell me what is buggy with the slow?
 

Piff1

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Days, weeks to make 2-3 mill ? Get real Farm MM for a day he'd make 4-5 Million, or make a wizz level to 35 get pets and make 5-10 mill in easy day on a wizz? Stop making out like it's a big deal for anyone even if you play 2 hours a day you can replace that within them 4 hours gameplay.
 

nigelfarage

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yeah unlucky

but that's mir

kill someone and take their stuff instead :^)
 

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I can shed some light on the matter, being the one who killed him.

We took tribal by surprise (it's not rape if you shout surprise!) in yims 3f. They out numbered us, but we took out their backline quickly because they weren't expecting it and evened the numbers quickly. Knowing they're a guild mostly of sins, I ordered our wizzies to FW the small gap inbetween us to ensure that they had to DoS over to reach our backline (taos). Knowing Jeleh was the real dropper (couldnt care less about a Dslayer, sorry phoenix) I tried to jump him with tzuk as he pounced on our tao.

Now, luckily for him his TT worked first time.

As he tt'd the rest slowly tt'd or died after, some failing to TT, some succeeding. PhoenixDanger greeted us with a "hi" (the guild that just massacred his brethren) before failing to TT TWICE before dying to my ff/Kens FS.

Let me get to my point:

I think being punished for wanting to TT is absolutely bullshit. Phoenix should not have died there. He should have TT'd safely. The very fact we took the cave from them is a victory in itself, the drops are merely bonuses. I have said this to Jamie before, but 2 things I think need to change.

1)

If you have 0 PK points, you can only drop a maximum of ONE body item. Just one. Nobody should quit because they got dicked and loses 3 of their beloved items despite being at 0 PK points.

2)

Teleport should not be failing at level 3 - period. You shouldn't be punished for wanting to leave a fight, knowing you're surrendering. You're already giving up and have lost the fight - no need to add insult to injury.

PD, you're a nice guy mate, and I've already given your wep out to a guildy but i'll back you up on this front.

P.S Jamie, don't let some moron crying about things they don't know distract you from the issues at hand. He's probably simply moaning about the fact that getting slowed slows the Teleport animation itself and being blued stops you from teleporting completely. Something you're fixing entirely next patch. Please don't let him or others derail the thread. I know most will agree with me on these two points, even if I get on peoples nerves =P
 
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JustAUser

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You know exactly what I mean Jamie lol

It's affected by slow and blue mixed with a non rt map you can be fc'd once turn blue have 0 chance of tt'ing and drop 3 months of your game play.

If you think this is right you're insane
 

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I think the slow and freeze effect is fine but there's definitely too many maps that pk happens the most where it is non rt. I wouldn't be opposed to having teleport spell available to use when frozen only because there are no de's or tt's.
Or at least if possible make teleport spell work every single time at lvl 3
 

ventus

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Teleport fails half the time, better to just add TT's back in game. And if your blue your screwed. Spend countless hours crafting these set items and you lose em in a second from being pked by invisible attacker you didnt even see coming lol. And you drop with 0 pk points and you didnt even want to pk in the first place Lol. Of course people are going to rage quit.
 

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Can't fathom why there are no tt's and getting out of a cave is a castable spell that is affected by cooldowns and 3rd party affects.

Inb4 "what cooldown????" - if you cast and spell, or swing your weapon you can, no matter how far through any animation, hit a tt and be out of there. With 'Teleport' being a spell there is a slight delay if either of the aforementioned are in action.

Problem wouldn't be half as bad if tt's had a 95% chance to work atleast you could spam them mid action, if the chance I fail is the reason this was changed to a spell here.


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daneo1989

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Me personally I dont like the way Jamie has gone with tts instead of adding TownTeleports into the game just add DungeonEscapes. This way people can just DE then teleport to town.

I agree dropping items is part of the Game but seems every server Koriban plays he main goal is PKin and I dont blame him. Some people like pvp some dont but seems Jamie is more pro pvp hense his teleport skill.

Maybe should look at adding % body dropping depending white,brown,yellow,red and War
 

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The pk system here is;

There's no red, just deeper yellow. The more pk points you have the more items you will drop. Pk and you will be punished by a hugely increased drop chance rather than getting raped by archers/guards. This I quite like.

#BringBackTTs


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And what about if teleport failed for me? I knew that CORE had the upper hand, they killed 2/3 of us instantly and our wiz were stuck in a lure so could not help with the pvp. I hit a few people but then saw CORE's wiz coming so knew I had to TT before they FF me into oblivion. Thankfully my TT worked, but if it didn't and I dropped Blades Of Maji, I would be outta here - its much more than 3-4 hours work of cash hunting to return this item.

Kori is right on this. Winning the dungeon and ruining an organised hunt is the real prize for CORE here.