Bombs in london!

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Detritus said:
Is it just me or is it hardly believable that this is the same alquaida that had the brains to capture 4 planes learn to fly and crash them into twin towers, pentagon and some random field.

Not being harsh but 40 peole have died compared to hunderds in 911.

Surely it would have made more of an impact if a bomb was planted in live 8 or somthing. Hundred of people would have died instantly.

3000+ in 9/11 wasnt it
 

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Im not going school tomorow because of that :D and im well chuffed.
 

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Detritus said:
Is it just me or is it hardly believable that this is the same alquaida that had the brains to capture 4 planes learn to fly and crash them into twin towers, pentagon and some random field.

Not being harsh but 40 peole have died compared to hunderds in 911.

Surely it would have made more of an impact if a bomb was planted in live 8 or somthing. Hundred of people would have died instantly.
Yes but this was just a warning. Meaning that there is bigger things to come, you know this is only going to lead to another war/more death.
 

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Detritus said:
Is it just me or is it hardly believable that this is the same alquaida that had the brains to capture 4 planes learn to fly and crash them into twin towers, pentagon and some random field.

Not being harsh but 40 peole have died compared to hunderds in 911.

Surely it would have made more of an impact if a bomb was planted in live 8 or somthing. Hundred of people would have died instantly.

which goes to show all these anti-terror initiatives are working, but incidents like this are unavoidable, you cant police and protect 100% of the country 100% of the time.

As for rumours that theyres an invasion force over here, i sincerely doubt that, the British police and Military are capable of capturing and nailing groups of 3/4 terrorists at a time, so a strike force of say even 20 people would be nailed in days.

The rumours of a stike force are probably just empty threats becuase i doubt the terrorists did anywhere near as much damage as they hoped.

As for people saying it was Iraqis, etc, i think its just a case of crossed wires, I beleive the actual statement (and even i may not be 100% correct) said it was the Al-Qaida operating on behalf of Iraq and Afghanistan.

This is utter bull**** becuase these tossers warped veiws and beliefs dont represent the veiws and beliefs of either of those countries. All the represent is the twisted hatred of a tiny minority.

Anyone who says the war on terror incited this, stfu, the war on terror is probably what stopped these attacks occuring until now, and is also probably the reason that these attacks were weak although i use this term with the greatest of sympathy becuase for famalies of those than have died + the seriously injured, these attacks will have been devastating.
 

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jamis said:
Im not going school tomorow because of that :D and im well chuffed.

This translates into "im glad 37 people are dead becuase a day off school is more important to me than their lives"

use the time you gain from now being permenantly banned from this forum to go and tell that to someone who's going to be off school for weeks beucase their parents were kill in the attacks you insensitive prick.
 

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40 Dead 700+ injured

what a waste of life, would be good if they got the people that did it.

i hope all the london lomcn crew and there familys are ok.

P.S good job atom


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saber said:
40 Dead 700+ injured

what a waste of life, would be good if they got the people that did it.

i hope all the london lomcn crew and there familys are ok.

P.S good job atom


/sab

Dont get started on waste of life, when was the last time u gave a **** about the 10000+ innocent iraqi civilians killed in the "war on terror"
 

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Detritus said:
Surely it would have made more of an impact if a bomb was planted in live 8 or somthing. Hundred of people would have died instantly.
The thing is these people are fighting for their beliefs, in iraq and afganistan there is already enough poverty, therefore I doubt these organisations would choose to distrupt a heartfull plea to make poverty history. Ok, so their killing 100s of innocents, but their doing it with a cause. I'm not a member of Al-Qaida but I can see what their fighting for, and it's not for poverty. These attacks are nothing more than small threats, in an attempt to remove the foriegn military forces from their country. The fact is, if they wanted to kill more people, there is no doubt they could have.

Don't get me wrong I hate the c.un.ts for what they've done to the United States, to Spain, and to us (Britain), something needs to be done, otherwise these kinds of attacks will never end. War and violence will not settle differences, only further agrovate them, our governments and the Al-Qaida terrorist network leaders need to sort out some kind of an agreement, otherwise our dreams of world piece will never come together.
 

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Detritus said:
Dont get started on waste of life, when was the last time u gave a **** about the 10000+ innocent iraqi civilians killed in the "war on terror"


How bout the thousands of kurds killed by the Iraqis?

Today its about whats happened in London. Whatever pples opinions are on the war on terror should be discussed when things have calmed down from today.
 

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How bout the thousands of kurds killed by the Iraqis?

Today its about whats happened in London. Whatever pples opinions are on the war on terror should be discussed when things have calmed down from today.

Hmmmm """"CIVILIANS"""" <--- they didnt kill anyone
 

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I understand what ur sayin Lyrical, however my concern is that unlike the rest of the world, these people [terrorists] are unreasonable. They have crazed clerics urging people to kill, they dont say "kill for this cause" they jsut say "kill"

Were already helping rebuild iraq and Afghanistan, we have a whole reparation and restoration system in place, we helped install governments, but they dont want that. you can see where the shift goes.

They terrorize their own country, then we step in to stop it, and suceed, so now they cant easily terrorise their own people, they turn their attention to other countries.

Were doing what we can to help their people, however in my veiw these terrorists just want to fight, partly becuase they are evil, and aprtly becuase many are brainwashed by sick fanatics.
 

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Detritus said:
Hmmmm """"CIVILIANS"""" <--- they didnt kill anyone


With repesct you dont know what any of these civilians jobs were or who they worked for. But like i said whats happened is more important at this precise moment.
 

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Detritus said:
Hmmmm """"CIVILIANS"""" <--- they didnt kill anyone

So it was jsut the military killed in todays attacks? Its always civilians, Iraqis killed civiliians, Afghans killed civillians.

Infact both nations not only killed those of other nations, they killed people in their own nations. This isnt becuase everyone in the country is a twat, its beucase the country was unfortunate enough to end up with a ruler who was a twat.

The rulers take over, they incite fear into their people and exercise strcit control over them, killing those that dont comply 100%
 

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Atomicide said:
I understand what ur sayin Lyrical, however my concern is that unlike the rest of the world, these people [terrorists] are unreasonable. They have crazed clerics urging people to kill, they dont say "kill for this cause" they jsut say "kill"

Were already helping rebuild iraq and Afghanistan, we have a whole reparation and restoration system in place, we helped install governments, but they dont want that. you can see where the shift goes.

They terrorize their own country, then we step in to stop it, and suceed, so now they cant easily terrorise their own people, they turn their attention to other countries.

Were doing what we can to help their people, however in my veiw these terrorists just want to fight, partly becuase they are evil, and aprtly becuase many are brainwashed by sick fanatics.
This is because things have esculated since the war on terrorism, now all diplomatic efforts will be futile, unless handled in the correct way. It's obvious that when either side becomes aware of the position of the enemy's leaders, they will strike, in the Allies case, the Al-Qaida leaders will be captured and trialed for centances longer than their lives, or shot if they resist. In the terrorists case, if they get an opertunity to hit us hard, theres no doubt they will take it.

Therefore we find ourselfs in a vicious circle, and unless something is done about it things will just continue to esculate, untill god knows what awfull things could happen.
 

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Detritus said:
Is it just me or is it hardly believable that this is the same alquaida that had the brains to capture 4 planes learn to fly and crash them into twin towers, pentagon and some random field.

Not being harsh but 40 peole have died compared to hunderds in 911.

Surely it would have made more of an impact if a bomb was planted in live 8 or somthing. Hundred of people would have died instantly.
The bombings today weren't about killing as many as possible (as 9/11 was) it was about scaring people and letting them know what they were capable of.
 

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HolyCow said:
The bombings today weren't about killing as many as possible (as 9/11 was) it was about scaring people and letting them know what they were capable of.
The thing about these train bombs, is their cheap and effective. Maximum casualties to minimum cost ratio. Therefore we could see a few more of these in the near future, lets just hope they don't step up a level, otherwise things could be far more catastrophic.

The fact is, we cant stop these kind of attacks in a free society, where people can freely walk around. Therefore there is no defence, and the only logical option is peace. ;)
 

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First off I would like to say that Al Qaeda is NOT a muslim organisation...although they claim to be, in Islam you should not harm even an ant or spider, and suicide is the ultimate sin. God says in our Qur'an that if you take away your life that he blessed you with, you will suffer eternal punishment. Understand that I don't want you to believe it's the truth, but that a muslim should believe it is the truth and follow those rules. Hence Al Qaeda arent muslim, so please stop insulting my religion which does not want any association with this type of actions.

To Stonehelm, yes he is going to be worried about the actions on the muslim community. Thats who he is responsible for, just like Blair is responsible for you. Im sure he has grieved for the dead and is sorry for the losses, but he cant abandon his job and belief.

To the goons who say 'BOMB AFGHAISTAN AND IRAQ!!11', what kind is stupidness is this? They have been equally, if not more persecuted by Tony Blair in their country! Hundreds of thoudands died....HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS, by bombs dropped by American and British forces. I'm not saying it is right to bomb anyone, of course it isnt, but dont jump to stupid conclusions and talk crap.

Who wastes more life, the 40 killed or the 100'000 killed in Iraq? Its a shame I had to make this statement as life is life and noone has the right to take it away from someone else, but you forced this statement upon me by being so blind.
 

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FUTURA said:
To Stonehelm, yes he is going to be worried about the actions on the muslim community. Thats who he is responsible for, just like Blair is responsible for you. Im sure he has grieved for the dead and is sorry for the losses, but he cant abandon his job and belief.

Tbh i dont get that remark. The muslim leader isnt a prime minister or anything tho i agree hes gonna be worried about muslims. You said *like Tony Blair is responsible for you* but hes responsible for everyone tho including you.
 

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ne0sbabe said:
FUTURA said:
To Stonehelm, yes he is going to be worried about the actions on the muslim community. Thats who he is responsible for, just like Blair is responsible for you. Im sure he has grieved for the dead and is sorry for the losses, but he cant abandon his job and belief.

Tbh i dont get that remark. The muslim leader isnt a prime minister or anything tho i agree hes gonna be worried about muslims. You said *like Tony Blair is responsible for you* but hes responsible for everyone tho including you.

I know that, it's to the person who said 'hes more worried about the muslim community!111!!'. It was an analogy too similar to the actualy case, sorry! :tongue1:
 

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FUTURA said:
ne0sbabe said:
I know that, it's to the person who said 'hes more worried about the muslim community!111!!'. It was an analogy too similar to the actualy case, sorry! :tongue1:


Ah ok the way you put it was like the muslim guy was responsible for you where Tony Blair was for us. Being female confused me lol