Bombs in london!

[ne0sbabe]

they are suicide bombers but because they kill other people, thus making them homicidal so urban was using "wit" and calling them homicide bombers

BUS DRIVER 'BADLY SHAKEN'

The driver of the bus blown apart by a terrorist's bomb was left badly shaken by the attack, his wife has said.

Thirteen people were killed when the explosion tore through the No 30 bus in Tavistock Square.


George Psaradakis' wife Alanai said: "He is OK for now, but it has not been easy for him to see these terrible things."

Another family member, who did not want to be named, added: "He did not look himself. I have never seen him like it. He was yellow."

There is speculation the blast was caused by a suicide bomber.



Urban is free to call them what they want but over here there officially called Suicide bombers!

 

[Ceef]

UrbanFox is for once right in the term Homocide Bombers...

Fact is they do commit suicide in the act. But its only for the intent of killing others with them.

Therefore making them Homocidal.

 

[ne0sbabe]

Leecuz maybe...but homicide is a American word...if someone is murdered we say murder investigation not homicide.

 

[FUTURA]

Im savign this reply to my hard-drive because Ive written it so many times each deleted by urbanfox:

Islam is not a peaceful religion, that's 100% bull****. What peaceful religion would teach the only sure way to the paradise is through jihad?

Does it not say in Surah 2:190 "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you. And slay them wherever you catch them." ?

Don't act like you know anything about Islam Urban. I am a muslim, but do I want to blow people up? Do my family want to blow people up? Even my relatives in Iran and Pakistan, do they want to blow stuff up?

And don't even talk about jihad because all you know it to mean is 'Holy war'. It does NOT mean that, it means exactly the surah you quoted 'FIGHT AGAINST THOSE WHO FIGHT AGAINST YOU.'

Really I can't see how you are so blind and ignorant to the generalization you have made! Islam is a peaceful religion, you miss out the quotes from the Hadith in which Prophet Muhammed says that no living creature deserves to be harmed. But who likes to be dominated, or destroyed? Even in your own bible it contains such type of quotes.

Let me show you from peoples reactions in this very forum why these people do what they do. After these attacks, look at some of the response. 'Blow up afghanistan, blow up iraq, kill the *******s'. You want REVENGE.

This is the same for Iraqi and Afghani and any other people like this! Do you think these guys just woke up one day and say ' Holy **** I wanna blow myself up!' Who the flying fcuk wants to do that!? Eastern people are just as sane as you, and just like you they want revenge for THEIR PERSECUTION.

The West, in their opinion (yes there is a two sides to every conflict I know your side, look at it from theirs), has ripped THEIR communities apart, ripped THEIR families apart for years and years! IN THE SAME WAY YOU WANT REVENGE ON THEM THEY ARE TAKING REVENGE ON YOU! And because of that, THEY are evil, THEY are simply spilling blood because they just want to wreck the world. No, this is wrong, this is untrue.

Now it doesn't make killing right, but these dudes are so desparate in their situation that after losing everything they take revenge in the name of the only thing they have left: their faith.

But sh!t it DOESNT SUPPORT MINDLESS KILLING IN ISLAM OR IN THE QUR'AN! Islam IS a peaceful religion, as Atom said we are a decent race, a FAIR race. And it seems that the Western powers cant take this fairness and levelling of the score.

Another thing, how is it when USA bombs Iraq the dead are 'casualties of war' but when you get bombed back its 'killing innocent victims' Its double standard and if you cant see it then I feel sorry for you.

Whats the answer? Who knows, but I think America and UK need to realise that this terrorism is a RETALIATION TO PAST PERSECUTION and NOT mindless violence!

 

[YoYoYo]

Ouch
There is no reason for the bombs on the public, if they are bombing us for the iraq war then they should bomb the government, they are the people who did it.
And im amazed how many people survied, but lots of people are only half alive

Hope they get better amnd everything gets back to normal.

 

[urbanfox]

urbanfox

beans and cornbread





I'm left wondering though how the British will react to the bombings...


Urban im not sure exactly what you mean by this. But obviously ppl are very very angry and upset. There is one heck of lot of feeling if we wasnt in *this war of terror* that it wouldnt have happened. Although Blair is saying things have to continue the way they are i think hes going to have one hell of a bad time in the papers if he doesnt change. But you know something you cant say cos someone is a muslim there religion is evil im sure some of the bible isnt nice either.

Also i dont even understand why you are trying to cause an argument on a thread like this. Its DISREPSECTFUL and if it was you who was bombed yesterday youy would not like it.

What was the point of you quoting the text below my avatar.

I'm left wondering though how the British will react to the bombings...

I'll tell you what I mean by that.

The British people when it comes down to it have 3 basic choices:

1)They can rally around their PM and accept this tragedy and try to find those responsible.

2)They can blame everything on their PM

3)They can be apethetic and just go on with their lives (I HIGHLY doubt anyone will choose this.

dont brainwash people with that ****, you know the Christan Bible contains just as much of that.

Brainwash people?

Wow, directly quoting from the book, that's some heavy brainwashing :dunce:


As for the Bible, no please, I am not aware it COMMANDS BELIEVERS TO KILL UNBELIEVERS WHEREEVER THEY BE. So please, I gave the decency of quoting their scripture, why don't you give me the same by quoting some of the Bible, instead of blind assumptions and attacks.

Leecuz maybe...but homicide is a American word...if someone is murdered we say murder investigation not homicide.

Oh ffs stop the country bull**** you get the point.

 

[urbanfox]

Im savign this reply to my hard-drive because Ive written it so many times each deleted by urbanfox:



Don't act like you know anything about Islam Urban. I am a muslim, but do I want to blow people up? Do my family want to blow people up? Even my relatives in Iran and Pakistan, do they want to blow stuff up?

And don't even talk about jihad because all you know it to mean is 'Holy war'. It does NOT mean that, it means exactly the surah you quoted 'FIGHT AGAINST THOSE WHO FIGHT AGAINST YOU.'


But sh!t it DOESNT SUPPORT MINDLESS KILLING IN ISLAM OR IN THE QUR'AN! Islam IS a peaceful religion, as Atom said we are a decent race, a FAIR race. And it seems that the Western powers cant take this fairness and levelling of the score.

Another thing, how is it when USA bombs Iraq the dead are 'casualties of war' but when you get bombed back its 'killing innocent victims' Its double standard and if you cant see it then I feel sorry for you.

Whats the answer? Who knows, but I think America and UK need to realise that this terrorism is a RETALIATION TO PAST PERSECUTION and NOT mindless violence![/COLOR]

FIRST, WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. I JUST WOKE UP, I HAVE NOT NOR DID NOT DELETE ANY OF YOUR POSTS SO DO NOT ACCUSE ME OF DOING SO.]

Second, I WOULD LOVE to see you quote scripture of the Bible commanding people to go kill inbelievers for no other reason then they are unbelievers.

Third, how should we interpet the Koran? Hmm, go kill unbelievers unless they convert OR pay a unbelievers tax... explian?

I never said anything about the people, nor will I say anything, I am arguing on the actual religion.

That's ****ING sick. We DO NOT TARGET CIVILIANS. THEY DO. Our goal, the US and UK is to root out the insurgency. Unfortunetly their is collateral damage, however digusting that word may sound. But for you to defend them by saying they are retaliating, no no that's bull****! They are disgusting creatures that should be rooted out and killed. Yesterday they killed your own people and you just want to defend that as retaliation because were doing wrong to them.

 

[ne0sbabe]

To be fair...there are nutters in every religion. At a time when the authorities here are trying to keep the peace between muslims and whatever i dont think posts like this help to be honest.


As to what the British will decide to do. Yes to be honest they are just getting on with there lives. Or as best as they can atm anyhow. The tubes and trains are running to a degree. Yes we have people trying to find the people responsible. We arent going gungho saying we are going to attack other countries however. At least one MP has said its payback for iraq(this i think is sick btw). A lot of the media here are against the war and will go on about it i guess but tbh at the moment whats important to us is recovering bodies etc and naming them and returning them to there families.

One thing i am curious tho...i dont know much about Islam etc and dont pretend to but your knocking it saying it encourages ppl to kill others. The night b4 this happened your own brother said he wanted to be a suicide bomber in London in 2012. I wonder how HE felt yesterday.

 

[urbanfox]

One thing i am curious tho...i dont know much about Islam etc and dont pretend to but your knocking it saying it encourages ppl to kill others.

Come to your own conclusions about the verses quoted.

And you didn't answer my question.

What's your agenda for quoting the words under my text.

 

[ne0sbabe]

Come to your own conclusions about the verses quoted.

In all honesty i do not blame the book. These people have a mind of there own. I dont do what the Bible tells me to do. There were ppl of all nationalities killed here yesterday. Sure these people can blame it on things in the book but really there just using this is as an excuse to do what they want to do.

 

[urbanfox]

In all honesty i do not blame the book. These people have a mind of there own. I dont do what the Bible tells me to do. There were ppl of all nationalities killed here yesterday. Sure these people can blame it on things in the book but really there just using this is as an excuse to do what they want to do.

The people who did this to you did it AS A RESULT OF THE BOOK. That, and they are inherently evil.

And you still have not answered my question...

 

[ne0sbabe]

The people who did this to you did it AS A RESULT OF THE BOOK. That, and they are inherently evil.

And you still have not answered my question...

Yes they are evil. But the Book did NOT put bombs in there hands. They did that themselves.

And i havent answered what question? Incidentally you havent answered mine about your brother.

Also by the way...the MAJORITY of MUSLIMS think the people who did that yesterday are evil too ya know.

 

[urbanfox]

Yes they are evil. But the Book did NOT put bombs in there hands. They did that themselves.

And i havent answered what question? Incidentally you havent answered mine about your brother.

No, the book just told them to kill...

Why you said

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urbanfox

beans and cornbread

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Incedently your talking to me and not my brother, you can ask him your own questions.

Also by the way...the MAJORITY of MUSLIMS think the people who did that yesterday are evil too ya know.

Oh, you took a poll in the middle east?

 

[FUTURA]

I will answer tomorrow I cba to type right now its quarter to one....but Urban Ill be back muhaha

 

[ne0sbabe]

And you did a poll to say to say different did you?

Urban any muslims on this board. If they read what you keep saying about them there gonna think its right what al qaeda say. I have no idea how many muslims live in the states...probably not as many live here. But i know a lot and i know there against alqaeda. And ive seen god knows how many reports today from asians condemning this..and yeah from ppl int he middle east too. Ie Palestine tho i guess you dont like them either.



To be honest at this time....its not a time to argue over muslims. Its a time to be more concerned about the dead and injured and there families.

 

[urbanfox]

Ok, once again, it is quite clear you are avoiding the question:


Why did you say

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urbanfox

beans and cornbread

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And then delete it?

Even though I'm sure I already know why, and don't ask me what, just give me an answer.

 

[ne0sbabe]

Ok, once again, it is quite clear you are avoiding the question:


Why did you say

"
urbanfox

beans and cornbread

"

And then delete it?

Even though I'm sure I already know why, and don't ask me what, just give me an answer.

Tbh i dont even understand why your going on about that. I just copied and pasted and that came out under the Urban part. THAT was the only reason.

 

[urbanfox]

Tbh i dont even understand why your going on about that. I just copied and pasted and that came out under the Urban part. THAT was the only reason.

Hmm... why am I going on about it..

Normally people use what's called 'quotes". Instead you post something else, something uncommon, and when I question you on it you delete it. You could have said a lot earlier on supposedly why it was there, but no, you ignored the question further, therefore your the one who brought it to this.

I also find it hard that you copied and pasted it, since, it would have come out like this:


urbanfox
beans and cornbread

Instead of:

urbanfox


beans and cornbread

 

[ne0sbabe]

As i already said i copied and pasted from the left. Im not the computer wiz you are. Maybe im misisng something but i thought this thread was meant to be do with what happened in London not about beans and cornbread. Im at a loss why something i copied and pasted is so important to you. And the reason i didnt answer yuour question was cos i had no idea what you was going about or obviously that it was so important to you. Oh and as for it being deleted . I actually just wnated to show the bit what i was referring to. I didnt think beans or cornbread was part of it or needed so i deleted it. Happy now?

 

[FUTURA]

When I said delete I meant in the past sorry didnt make it clear :brows:

FIRST, WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. I JUST WOKE UP, I HAVE NOT NOR DID NOT DELETE ANY OF YOUR POSTS SO DO NOT ACCUSE ME OF DOING SO.]

Second, I WOULD LOVE to see you quote scripture of the Bible commanding people to go kill inbelievers for no other reason then they are unbelievers.

Third, how should we interpet the Koran? Hmm, go kill unbelievers unless they convert OR pay a unbelievers tax... explian?

I never said anything about the people, nor will I say anything, I am arguing on the actual religion.

That's ****ING sick. We DO NOT TARGET CIVILIANS. THEY DO. Our goal, the US and UK is to root out the insurgency. Unfortunetly their is collateral damage, however digusting that word may sound. But for you to defend them by saying they are retaliating, no no that's bull****! They are disgusting creatures that should be rooted out and killed. Yesterday they killed your own people and you just want to defend that as retaliation because were doing wrong to them.

You should interpret the Qur'an by reading ALL OF ITS MESSAGES. Sure it says those things I am not denying it, but it also says 'LOVE ALL LIVING CREATURES', 'DO NOT HARM OR TAKE LIFE', 'DO NOT TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE' These magically go out the window? This is fundamentalism....and yes the fundamentalism is narrow minded but it is a cause for them to fight for THEIR justice.

And its realyl said to hear you say 'collateral damage'. This is basically saying their death is meaningless compared to the death of your own. Dropping a bomb ANYWHERE is murder....terrorists are murderers....Bush and Blair are murderers....why are they different?

And I know it is horrible....but they want to be noticed so action can be taken no? What is the way to get a government to take action....to hurt its people . This is true...look at Bush and how he reacted. If they blow up government then nothing will get acted upon in the future!

You have to realise that these guys believe so firmly in their cause that they would blow themselves up for it. It is disgusting, I agree, but the suicide bombers have lost ALL family, to America and UK! Nothing else to live for!
I once gave analogy which was deleted, God forbid if someone hurt your family in front of your face....would you not want to kill that person dead? Its not mindless violence, these are people who think, breath liek you do!

Now I dont want to defend any type of violence I hate it as muc has everyone...but I have the open-mindedness to accept that there are always two sides to an argument. And also if you think I ahve no connection with christian then you're wrong, my mum is a converted muslim, so her whole side of the family is christian...so dont think I am arguing just for the sake of it!

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