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TheMightyOne

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Zell, stop using the I THOUGHT I WAS A BIG MAN, YEH IM SOLID CMON D00DS KILL ME IF U CAN ID LIKE TO SEE YOU TRY, although it did make me laugh.

neway im not leaving entirely il just pop on and have some fun once in a while.

King Server is back up now which is alot better than this (opinion)

Zell, u were a gud mate to begin with. shame how it ended.
Kae, dno whos side ur on. obviously zell's now
Mist, well i wont start their.
Warlord, ty for owning up to ur doings.
Emo - i love you.
 

Zell

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well im gunna stop aruging now i cba and yea im a child, but it is childish so i cant be bothered gl though on king server
 

Emotionless

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LeoCrasher said:
you still ignore the core fact that at least two normal characters have had almost their entire current kit gained or aided by a GM.

That's an over-statement. A few items have fallen into these normal characters, not their whole kits...

Fair doo's to you Zircom, can't say i'll miss you but have fun.
 

Zell

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SpeedParaRing
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[2005-02-03]
[05:04:16] Warlord MAKE SpeedParaRing Map: G002 40:41 (8675987)
[05:05:13] Warlord DROP SpeedParaRing Map: F005 49:59 (8675987)
[05:06:25] sabriel PICKUP SpeedParaRing Map: F005 48:58 (8675987)

[2005-02-08]
[11:20:30] sabriel PICKUP SpeedParaRing Map: F011 95:106 (8675987)
[11:18:54] sabriel DROP SpeedParaRing Map: F011 96:107 (8675987)
[02:05:38] sabriel DROP SpeedParaRing Map: T240 16:14 (8675987)
[02:06:53] mist PICKUP SpeedParaRing Map: T240 17:13 (8675987)
[02:09:15] mist TRADE SpeedParaRing Kaelaris Map: 0139 22:20 (8675987)
[02:09:51] Kaelaris TRADE SpeedParaRing sabriel Map: 0139 22:19 (8675987)

This right here... this is bull**** because i have never recieved a SpeedParaRing from mist. All the players on Bo know that i DONT wanna cheat in anyway or form...

/Kaelaris
 

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@Emotionless:
You said before that it was made up... now your saying a few items fell into your chars hands - make your mind up.

@zell/kael:
The logs don't lie. Ive also checked FTP logs to see if any of the GM's have modified the log files and they haven't. Their modification dates remain when the LogDataServer last wrote to them. Either your lying or forgot. You did receive a SpeedPara (and I later discovered a SpeedTele) from mist, and you did then furthur trade them to sab within the space of a few minutes. No one is questioning whether you cheat or not, its why the GM's give themselves items then lie about it. Mind you I did find it interesting that you use Zells account to post - and zell has already stated his 'discontent' about Zircoms post ;).

/Leo
 

mistodon

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The only thing that has been made on my acc is a supertelering. Which i had told ppl ingame about it. I made it so i could save myself being stuck on a gm char when im ingame as now i get to tele to places quicker.

As for these 2 gm's 2nd chars being fully kitted by a gm leo, if thats an acusation at me then ur wrong. I work my arse of hunting to get my items. With logs from early this morning if anything has came from my gm it is because i had to keep loggin on it to chnage gold bar's and i picked up items on sab and passed to Kael and beachy for them to give to my gm.

As most hard mobs wer easy to kill so i took all the rares which dropped as i had posted on are own forums. For ppl who read this i can copy my post and paste it here so you can see this is just a bad atempt from a jealous kid to ruin server as he aint got the best kit.

Cant believe i have to justify my own actions when there is clearly in my eyes no reason to. I will explain all of my actions to leo if she asked me questions about them. I dont see a need to explain other stuff as u can tell by logs the kid posted on page 4 there are bits missing like the mob which dropped them.
 

mistodon

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Oh and btw leo that speedpararing she gave to me which was passed from mist was picked up from map t240 as sab and kael wer killing apoclord and u logged on server and lagged us out. We died started in town and we told u about this as u wer stood in homezone this was the other afternoon. I also picked up kael's clearring but as ppl can see thats not been posted in logs. This as i can tell is just another simple fact but as ppl are so quick to want to expect the worst they miss out all the truth

See another simple explanation to the logs u are so willing to find a fault with. If ppl say this is gm corrubtion for goin to get my own kit back then fair enuff i agree it is a bit biest, BUT if u asked zircom and other players i have also gone and retrieved there death drops for them.

So in truth these there realy aint nothing to complain about as ive said from the start i have nothing to hide
 
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Zell

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I honestly dont understand why people are taking this out on the people with the best kit? sure we spend a lot of time on the game and mabye that makes us sad? :P but mabye... Just mabye we work for our items and levels that little bit harder! personally this looks like jealousy to me and all leo is doing is fueling the argument further although she has nothing to be jealous of.

/Kaelaris
 

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mistodon said:
The only thing that has been made on my acc is a supertelering. Which i had told ppl ingame about it. I made it so i could save myself being stuck on a gm char when im ingame as now i get to tele to places quicker.

KnightBrace
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[2005-01-30]
[00:41:38] mist MAKE KnightBrace Map: D515 11:19 (8597875)
[00:41:44] mist DROP KnightBrace Map: D515 11:19 (8597875)
[00:41:53] Emotionless PICKUP KnightBrace Map: D515 11:18 (8597875)

JadeBrace
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[2005-01-31]
[22:10:39] sabriel STORE JadeBrace Map: 0139 21:22 (8618429)
[14:40:22] sabriel PICKUP JadeBrace Map: 0139 18:37 (8618429)
[14:40:43] sabriel RETRIEVE JadeBrace Map: 0139 20:24 (8618429)
[14:39:31] mist MAKE JadeBrace Map: 0139 23:22 (8618429)
[14:39:58] mist DROP JadeBrace Map: 0139 18:38 (8618429)

RedMoonNeck
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[2005-01-31]
[23:45:33] mist MAKE RedMoonNeck Map: G002 67:34 (8633538)
[23:45:57] mist DROP RedMoonNeck Map: R001 86:93 (8633538)
[23:46:39] sabriel PICKUP RedMoonNeck Map: R001 85:92 (8633538)

Need I make it anymore obvious that you are lying? Oh and by the way, I know that there are a lot more items that are not being accounted for, but I was only asked to look for those which were being worn at the time.

As for me lagging you out by logging on... what the hell are you going on about. The server is hosted on my internet gateway machine, there is no way my arrival to the server could have lagged anyone out. Heck if I was just standing there it also means I was using ServerChat, not a memory killing MIR client which if used on the server machine has the capability of lagging you out. At least when I accuse you of something I back it up. You cannot pull the wool over my eyes with your half-assed stories that don't even seem to relate to the finer details of the post.

And I know you have got peoples items for them when they have died. However no one ever asked me to look into it.

/Leo

EDIT [So mods don't have reason to whinge about my double posting ;)]

Zell said:
SpeedParaRing
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[2005-02-03]
[05:04:16] Warlord MAKE SpeedParaRing Map: G002 40:41 (8675987)
[05:05:13] Warlord DROP SpeedParaRing Map: F005 49:59 (8675987)
[05:06:25] sabriel PICKUP SpeedParaRing Map: F005 48:58 (8675987)

[2005-02-08]
[11:20:30] sabriel PICKUP SpeedParaRing Map: F011 95:106 (8675987)
[11:18:54] sabriel DROP SpeedParaRing Map: F011 96:107 (8675987)
[02:05:38] sabriel DROP SpeedParaRing Map: T240 16:14 (8675987)
[02:06:53] mist PICKUP SpeedParaRing Map: T240 17:13 (8675987)
[02:09:15] mist TRADE SpeedParaRing Kaelaris Map: 0139 22:20 (8675987)
[02:09:51] Kaelaris TRADE SpeedParaRing sabriel Map: 0139 22:19 (8675987)

This right here... this is bull**** because i have never recieved a SpeedParaRing from mist. All the players on Bo know that i DONT wanna cheat in anyway or form...

/Kaelaris
mistodon said:
Oh and btw leo that speedpararing she gave to me which was passed from mist was picked up from map t240 as sab and kael wer killing apoclord and u logged on server and lagged us out.

...Kael if your going to act as an allyby, at least get your story straight. (Ill give you a hand... the only card you have left is that you forgot ;))

...mist, I dont care that it was picked up on whatsyamap, the search critera was ItemID 8675987 which was MADE by Warlord and dropped on the ground where you picked up a minute later.

/Leo
 
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Biohazard

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LeoCrasher said:
KnightBrace
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[2005-01-30]
[00:41:38] mist MAKE KnightBrace Map: D515 11:19 (8597875)
[00:41:44] mist DROP KnightBrace Map: D515 11:19 (8597875)
[00:41:53] Emotionless PICKUP KnightBrace Map: D515 11:18 (8597875)

JadeBrace
============
[2005-01-31]
[22:10:39] sabriel STORE JadeBrace Map: 0139 21:22 (8618429)
[14:40:22] sabriel PICKUP JadeBrace Map: 0139 18:37 (8618429)
[14:40:43] sabriel RETRIEVE JadeBrace Map: 0139 20:24 (8618429)
[14:39:31] mist MAKE JadeBrace Map: 0139 23:22 (8618429)
[14:39:58] mist DROP JadeBrace Map: 0139 18:38 (8618429)

RedMoonNeck
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[2005-01-31]
[23:45:33] mist MAKE RedMoonNeck Map: G002 67:34 (8633538)
[23:45:57] mist DROP RedMoonNeck Map: R001 86:93 (8633538)
[23:46:39] sabriel PICKUP RedMoonNeck Map: R001 85:92 (8633538)

Need I make it anymore obvious that you are lying? Oh and by the way, I know that there are a lot more items that are not being accounted for, but I was only asked to look for those which were being worn at the time.

As for me lagging you out by logging on... what the hell are you going on about. The server is hosted on my internet gateway machine, there is no way my arrival to the server could have lagged anyone out. Heck if I was just standing there it also means I was using ServerChat, not a memory killing MIR client which if used on the server machine has the capability of lagging you out. At least when I accuse you of something I back it up. You cannot pull the wool over my eyes with your half-assed stories that don't even seem to relate to the finer details of the post.

And I know you have got peoples items for them when they have died. However no one ever asked me to look into it.

/Leo

EDIT [So mods don't have reason to whinge about my double posting ;)]



...Kael if your going to act as an allyby, at least get your story straight. (Ill give you a hand... the only card you have left is that you forgot ;))

...mist, I dont care that it was picked up on whatsyamap, the search critera was ItemID 8675987 which was MADE by Warlord and dropped on the ground where you picked up a minute later.

/Leo


You just pwned Leo..... :matrix:
 

mistodon

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The knightbrace was made as u cant repair them in the shop. Another easy explanation.
The redmoonneck was probly made as i cant remember it. I know 100% that not one of my items i have in store or on me is gm made i got my redmoonneck on a hunt with sum1 so i dont need to justify anymore.
As all items here have been accounted for i dont see why this is draggin on. The items Vuoto made will be takin care off. Every thing has had a simple explanation and i dont see why ur draggin it on leo.
Its clearly not gonna satisfy u my reasons but if u really want to keep ruining server so badly im sure u will carry on postin and not the other bits which go with it.

I think this is just gettin silly now as its all had a clear explanation. Speed para ring which i so called made and dropped is on warlord and if u check his logs he aint been on since this is started and im sure u will find the ring.

I can keep giving you the simple reason behind items and im sure when u do realise i aint cheated my own server then maybe we can move on
 

Zell

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look leo, i dont care what you say :) because i know ive done nothing wrong and in my mind your just something i have to put up with in the background, like a nagging child who dropped his bottle.

I am the most legitimate and honest character on the server and i pride myself on my honesty and integrity :)

so if this is what i have to ignore to play this server, so be it. I dont fully understand what this 'problem' has to do with you anyways.

/kaelaris
 

mistodon

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[02:05:38] sabriel DROP SpeedParaRing Map: T240 16:14 (8675987)
[02:06:53] mist PICKUP SpeedParaRing Map: T240 17:13 (8675987)
[02:09:15] mist TRADE SpeedParaRing Kaelaris Map: 0139 22:20 (8675987)
[02:09:51] Kaelaris TRADE SpeedParaRing sabriel Map: 0139 22:19 (8675987)

Why leo did u just post this to TheMightyOne not the bit where we both died and dropped items you never even posted the clearring which was traded at that time? Cause if you did ppl would see i am telling the truth.
See this is why i dont get what ur doin. Your sayin you stopping cheats but all ur doin is makin things worse by not adding the real details.

Kael it has sumthing to do with Leo as she hosting server and i dont mind that she passes out logs. I just mind the fact they are posted on ere with out the real truthfull bits added like us dying 50 secs b4 mist picked up them items and the bits like ur clearring missing from is aswell.
 
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Emotionless

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LeoCrasher said:
@Emotionless:
You said before that it was made up... now your saying a few items fell into your chars hands - make your mind up.

/Leo

I never said it was made up, i simply showed they could easily be forged. Not just the ones aimed at me, but other characters as well.
 

LeoCrasher

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@Emotionless:
The logs have confirmed you made items, mist has confirmed... don't do yourself anymore damage than you already have.

@Kael:
Lose the ego for a second and concentrate on what has been said. Your not being accused of doing anything wrong, heck your not even really involved. Your self-awarded 'legitimicy' and 'honesty' was doubted the second mist confirmed you were involved in a trade which you (very adamently) claimed you weren't. Thats the end of your story, I've proved your an ickle fibber ;). Oh, and it doesn't involve me... My intention is in that showing exactly what they've done wrong they will learn from it - making this server and any server they develop in the future a better one.

mistodon said:
The redmoonneck was probly made as i cant remember it. I know 100% that not one of my items i have in store or on me is gm made i got my redmoonneck on a hunt with sum1 so i dont need to justify anymore.

So it was probably made, but you know 100% you got it on a hunt? - That explanation is pathetic. You contredicted yourself within two sentances. I don't like the way you avoid signifficant questions either.

mistodon said:
As all items here have been accounted for i dont see why this is draggin on.

All the items 'here' have not been accounted for, the way I see it you have tried to explain the causes behind the items but as previously seen you just manage to contredict yourself and the log. In doing so, you've completely missed what I've been intending to show you: your server management and public relations is quite honestly... ridiculous. By trying to explain the items you've completley went off track.

However the reason its 'dragging on' is because you have failed misrabely to calm the situation. I mean for crying out loud, if someone accuses someone in a position of power you don't just down right try and debunk all the claims. You take a lot of time and care in identifying all the problems and satisfying the intentions of the users who have brought such claims against you. Otherwise you get mistrust and public rebelion, as seen here and on countless other servers.

It was amazingly stupid for your different GM's to have different responses each. What should have happened is the head GM would of personally investigated the claims and come out with a public response representative of the entire server team. You can't just let members of your team debunk it, and you can't just say 'I dont understand' if you don't want to arouse suspicion. Hell you may have the support of a few high levels (which in itself does you no good) on your server but what do you think such responses do for the confidence of new comers?

If I was playing your server and had seen the post; I would have been assured if you had said something more along the lines of "Im sorry this information has came out like this, I will investigate and then feedback the results in the coming days. However thank you for taking the time to inform us of such matters." - Then a few days later reported the results, removed the GM with the majority of his items made and then posted a formal apology. What you've essentially let happen is a *****ing contest publically between peoples. You should have thought about the consequences of letting that happen before you attempted to clear any claim. ANYTHING that is ever brought against you will have repercussions for you and your server, but they won't be anywhere near as bad as those that are created from how you handle them. The sooner you learn this, the sooner you become an admirable head gm. Believe it or not, its not all about maps, items, databases etc... but how well you handle the players. Some past successful servers have even had dedicated PR volunteers (imo great for delaying the truth, but thats beside the point).

Lastly, take note of how Warlord proceeded... he saw what was posted, but rather than explaining it or trying to get around it he just down right apoligised. Its people like that who you should be consulting on relational skills. Hopefully you will now be able to identify areas you need to improve on in regard to sorting users queries.

/Leo
 

Zell

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Noone it going to take the time to read that o.O
anyways im not particuarly bothered, its not like this has really effected my gameplay or anything so im ok
 

mistodon

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Leo you are makin the worse by adding ur **** view's yes i said the redmoonecky was probably made by me. I didnt say yes i have made that item and thats the one im using.

All items have been accounted for and you tryin to find faults in this is just gone past the point of being worth answering anymore. You can pass logs out as i have already said i have nothing to hide.

As for different gm's having different answers well id be truely disturbed if they all had same storys as that would mean all gms have cheated and been in on it.

So lets get back to the main point here. You gave this kid the logs but didnt let the whole public see the stuff which i have said. The bits which are missing, which for most ppl who aint up ur arse will see your just tryin to ruin another good server with lies. As it makes you look good and all mighty. With ur just helping the comunity bull ****.

I have nothing else to say so will a mod clear this bull **** thread of all the spam and let us carry on with the soul intention this thread is here for.

To advertise this server
 
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