Can someone post Rules for Sabaku Wall, watched a little but dont understand

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Hastelloy

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I see alot of comments about the war was "not fun" because it was multiple guilds defending the wall.

There are several things I could do to the Conquest war:

  • Nothing.
  • Make everyone not attacking or defending in the war unable to participate/invisible.
  • Make everyone not attacking or defending in the war unable to read the names of players (during war).

Food for thought, personally it doesn't make a difference to me, doing nothing is obviously the preferred choice as its easier :)

Option 1 or 3 (except able to see same guild names perhaps for res purposes)....

Then implement DMW to give more to fight for then perhaps make it so that Super relic engages both walls at the same time and the attacker is free to choose which they want to go for?

Or easier just implement DMW and perhaps THC can try being a touch nicer to people ingame and form an alliance (What happened to that Haskeura guild or w/e name was) and they both submit the same day? The "WW/SD super duper alliance" cant be in both places at once?

More food for thought?
 

Exsodius

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THC will never beat 100 players with 25 people, so unlikely to use another relic any time soon - in the mean time the mass guilds will continue to level up, furthering the gap.
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Why do these numbers change each time someone posts?

Soon it will be 300 vs 1

My numbers didn't change bud :)
 

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I see alot of comments about the war was "not fun" because it was multiple guilds defending the wall.

There are several things I could do to the Conquest war:

  • Nothing.
  • Make everyone not attacking or defending in the war unable to participate/invisible.
  • Make everyone not attacking or defending in the war unable to read the names of players (during war).

Food for thought, personally it doesn't make a difference to me, doing nothing is obviously the preferred choice as its easier :)

Please don't. If a guild do not understand that diplomacy is an important aspect to mir, they don't deserve the wall. How did THC respond to losing the war? By declaring war on AAO who weren't even part of the alliance against them. They literally do it to themselves by making as many enemies as possible. Making the wall easier to take is rewarding them for moaning, and frankly is that really the behaviour you want to reward?
 

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I've one question based on everyone's responses saying the way SW works is fine.

Who is going to challenge SW / DMW?

Chinese? SD are you going to challenge for it?

Either of you may challenge but it seems as though everyone is banded together in a nice little ally system at the moment with noone but THC willing to challenge.

How boring, you're all hiding behind each other with noone willing to accept the fact that pure numbers won you the recent war.

Fight 1 guild v 1 guild or the main pk aspect of this server will die, forcing people to quit.

Think of the long term, not the short term.

Just because its 'the way its always been' why not mix things up, showing who truly is the best guild.
 

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THC tactics were piss poor and that's it. You don't believe me? well... hear me out. In SD we have quite a few rules and one of them is to keep comms clear so that group leaders can make calls at moments notice and that's what happened in our discord, we had 2 players making the calls and everyone followed suit. What about you guys? a friend of mine in THC told me that you had players yelling every now and then (yea I'm talking about spanishpowa trashtalking in spanish everytime he died, he even yelled at someone in his house telling them to shup up lololol)
 

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Stop crying and just wait for Chinese to get there full guild / kits together, they will give anybody a run for their money TGW aren't the greatest Pker / PVPers as they are on super high ping ( Most of them ) but they put in the time to point it don't matter if they suck as they will spank you Anyway and they have numbers.
 

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Please don't. If a guild do not understand that diplomacy is an important aspect to mir, they don't deserve the wall. How did THC respond to losing the war? By declaring war on AAO who weren't even part of the alliance against them. They literally do it to themselves by making as many enemies as possible. Making the wall easier to take is rewarding them for moaning, and frankly is that really the behaviour you want to reward?

Get your facts right, we were lvling in banyo for 1 hour, when somone noticed a member of AAO is there, so we declared warr to kill AAO, why ? Because we wanted to lvl there. Oh btw When i used to be lvl 24 some AAO members in flea f3 killed me numeros times, while killing my lures, they also killed a friend of mine when asked why one of people replied " i needed that lure " or something along the lines, so please before defending someone or you all act as saints you better look in all the guilds and see every guild has someone bad people in them ;)
 

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first the problem was the tempest, ok jamie limited it, now the problem is the alliances? have allies and a normal thing in wars, If no one likes you hold on, get your own allies, I think THC will only stop crying when you get the city!
 

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Pro tip for THC players:

[video=youtube;7nqcgUDoV_M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M[/video]
 

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declared warr to kill AAO, why ? Because we wanted to lvl there. Oh btw When i used to be lvl 24 some AAO members in flea f3 killed me numeros times, while killing my lures, they also killed a friend of mine

I didn't see you around at the start of server. THC had already decided their aggressive play style. Fleas is a pk people place. It's not a levelling place its a make money place, so ofc there's competition for the lures. Don't dare moan about that.
Yes all guilds got fighters n people who want to win all the time but THC chose the bad guys role so all the "I want to hit people any people" players will go there. THC ends up with most of the bad guys that no one else likes.
 
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It's poor that so many people are saying to THC maybe they should be nicer. For crying out loud this mir! If we all hugged and kissed every time we bumped into each other it would be boring as heck.

I'm a neutral and don't have any ties with either guild but the battles that THC have with other guilds make it interesting and fun to watch.

If Jamie was serious about proposing a change I'd definitely vote for only attacking and defending guilds can partake in the war. Having a wall change hands will be good for the server none of this ally crap.
 

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I didn't see you around at the start of server. THC had already decided their aggressive play style. Fleas is a pk people place. It's not a levelling place its a make money place, so ofc there's competition for the lures. Don't dare moan about that.
Yes all guilds got fighters n people who want to win all the time but THC chose the bad guys role so all the "I want to hit people any people" players will go there. THC ends up with most of the bad guys that no one else likes.

Does it matter if i was around at start of the server or not? I was told to lvl in fleas because i can also make some money aswel. So other guilds are allowed to kill people for example in fleas and it's fine, but if a member of THC does it they are " the bad guys " ? And no THC did not end up with most bad guys that no one else likes, they took in people who know how to fight and put up a fight in guild vs guild situations. When the other chinese guys will come on server if they ally with the curent chinese on the server and take wall and do the same thing will you still agree with the curent state of the wall ? Because in WW there is are alot of people who don't know how to pvp and are really bad at it, i wanna see how they can win in a 2 guilds vs 1 , or 3 guilds vs 1 . You tell me now if this will happen they wont come on forums with suggestions for the wall to be changed because it's unfair when the numbers are not close to equal . You people are really silly and bad trolls, trying to make up alot of things, saying false things and so on just so you can fill Jamie's head with lies :)
 

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I've one question based on everyone's responses saying the way SW works is fine.



Chinese? SD are you going to challenge for it?

seems as though everyone is banded together in a nice little ally system at the moment with noone but THC willing to challenge.

How boring, you're all hiding behind each other with noone willing to accept the fact that pure numbers won you the recent war.

Fight 1 guild v 1 guild or the main pk aspect of this server will die, forcing people to quit.
showing who truly is the best guild.

No it wont. It's always pure numbers and who can recruit most even "just for the war"
It shows who can get most people on line that evening. On this server it shows who has done the most levelling and who has the most really high levels on line, who can buy the most life pills and elixirs.
It doesnt show who is "the best" guild.
Diplomacy is part of the tactics. Remeber that Euro SW when an ally swapped sides half way thru? Uproar and howls of outrage, but everyone laughed about ti 6 months later.

Only way to show who is the top guild would be to have a limited number fight and keep a death count. Need to limit the number of each class in the fight crew as well.
 

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No it wont. It's always pure numbers and who can recruit most even "just for the war"
It shows who can get most people on line that evening. On this server it shows who has done the most levelling and who has the most really high levels on line, who can buy the most life pills and elixirs.
It doesnt show who is "the best" guild.
Diplomacy is part of the tactics. Remeber that Euro SW when an ally swapped sides half way thru? Uproar and howls of outrage, but everyone laughed about ti 6 months later.

Only way to show who is the top guild would be to have a limited number fight and keep a death count. Need to limit the number of each class in the fight crew as well.


Only way to show who is the top guild is to make it Atacker vs Defender, not limit the number of each class in fight lol what are you on ?
 

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Does it matter if i was around at start of the server or not? I was told to lvl in fleas because i can also make some money aswel. So other guilds are allowed to kill people for example in fleas and it's fine, but if a member of THC does it they are " the bad guys " ? And no THC did not end up with most bad guys that no one else likes, they took in people who know how to fight and put up a fight in guild vs guild situations. When the other chinese guys will come on server if they ally with the curent chinese on the server and take wall and do the same thing will you still agree with the curent state of the wall ? Because in WW there is are alot of people who don't know how to pvp and are really bad at it, i wanna see how they can win in a 2 guilds vs 1 , or 3 guilds vs 1 . You tell me now if this will happen they wont come on forums with suggestions for the wall to be changed because it's unfair when the numbers are not close to equal . You people are really silly and bad trolls, trying to make up alot of things, saying false things and so on just so you can fill Jamie's head with lies :)

And you are twisting things.
Fleas is a free for all sort of place and ants. Everyone fights and pks in there. Didnt they tell u that when they sent you there? You can level muchfaster other caves.
THC wanted to be the PK guild. They dont recruit ppl who fight they recruit ppl who want to PK. It's not the same.
Get THC and WW fight guild v guild for no reward. Just to show who is "best" As long as there were same no of people of each class in both teams and similar levels.
You could arrange it yourselves if anyone trusted you to keep yr word.
 

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2 wars simultaneously sounds a good compromise and could be very fun. It can ruin servers when 2 big guilds gang up
 

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Don't you worry about no one is going to challenge the SW. Worry about why everyone would like to see you guys fall.

TGW fight with WW since the 1st day of this server, when Chinano1 was killed by jeleh in zombies Cave.

I PVP almost everyday with WW sins in goru, and sent their members back to town in KR constantly.

But, we still wish WW win even WW is our enemy. Wanna be the best guild, then behave like one and try to get your own ally.

Mir is beautiful because of the mass fight between allies. 3 guilds vs 3 guilds or maybe more . If only one guild vs one guild, why bother Mir?

I've one question based on everyone's responses saying the way SW works is fine.

Who is going to challenge SW / DMW?

Chinese? SD are you going to challenge for it?

Either of you may challenge but it seems as though everyone is banded together in a nice little ally system at the moment with noone but THC willing to challenge.

How boring, you're all hiding behind each other with noone willing to accept the fact that pure numbers won you the recent war.

Fight 1 guild v 1 guild or the main pk aspect of this server will die, forcing people to quit.

Think of the long term, not the short term.

Just because its 'the way its always been' why not mix things up, showing who truly is the best guild.
 

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Does it matter if i was around at start of the server or not? I was told to lvl in fleas because i can also make some money aswel. So other guilds are allowed to kill people for example in fleas and it's fine, but if a member of THC does it they are " the bad guys " ? And no THC did not end up with most bad guys that no one else likes, they took in people who know how to fight and put up a fight in guild vs guild situations. When the other chinese guys will come on server if they ally with the curent chinese on the server and take wall and do the same thing will you still agree with the curent state of the wall ? Because in WW there is are alot of people who don't know how to pvp and are really bad at it, i wanna see how they can win in a 2 guilds vs 1 , or 3 guilds vs 1 . You tell me now if this will happen they wont come on forums with suggestions for the wall to be changed because it's unfair when the numbers are not close to equal . You people are really silly and bad trolls, trying to make up alot of things, saying false things and so on just so you can fill Jamie's head with lies :)

But in THC there are also a lot of people who don't know how to pvp and are really bad at it.