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What to do with cast times


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Don't know about the speed now but before they were to fast and needed lowering, especially tao casting.

From a wars point of view this may be true, from a Tao perspective it actually gave us a chance to level and kill mobs at a semi decent speed.
 

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People in my guild will probably hate me for this but ive got to vote no here. Wiz were always a class that favoured the "better" mir player who knew what they were doing, but its not the case here. Wiz were never the tank the boss class, but again they are here. They clearly are overpowered and the sole fact that (guesstimating) around 70% of the server play them (when its usually this number in favour of warriors) clearly proves this. This high number of people playing wizards is also the only reason you guys are facing such negative feedback on this scale as well.

However, this all said, I do think you should find some middle ground and increase the cast speed to somewhere in the middle for the people unable to cope with playing a wizzy with some intelligence, all in the interests of not facing the threat or reality of a mass exodus. Reverting back to how it was though just leaves you guys open to the risk of being held to ransom over changes that may affect a large part of the player base in the future, even if the change really is needed (as I think it is here).
 

Prince

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robj u jus proved 2 the whole mir community how much of a spaz u really r jus dnt bother loggin on ne more plez
 

Xiler

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jus a note what about the wizz tao community that dont have a forum accnt and wont make 1 jus 2 vote who r equilly pissed ><?

then that's their problem not Sams. If they want to be involved he is offering them a chance, make an account.
 

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People in my guild will probably hate me for this but ive got to vote no here. Wiz were always a class that favoured the "better" mir player who knew what they were doing, but its not the case here. Wiz were never the tank the boss class, but again they are here. They clearly are overpowered and the sole fact that (guesstimating) around 70% of the server play them (when its usually this number in favour of warriors) clearly proves this. This high number of people playing wizards is also the only reason you guys are facing such negative feedback on this scale as well.

However, this all said, I do think you should find some middle ground and increase the cast speed to somewhere in the middle for the people unable to cope with playing a wizzy with some intelligence, all in the interests of not facing the threat or reality of a mass exodus. Reverting back to how it was though just leaves you guys open to the risk of being held to ransom over changes that may affect a large part of the player base in the future, even if the change really is needed (as I think it is here).

What really needs changing is spells all seeming to rely on a global cast rate as opposed to each spell having its own cast rate.

This is the first server I feel i've enjoyed playing a Tao (Cast speed of SFB made me feel like I was actually doing a bit more than usual).
 

d1craig

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At the end of the day, without sounding harsh, there are 100+ active people playing this server who like it the way it is, if you plan on making changes without asking any of these people's opinions you're gonna get people kicking off. You've always said you guys include the players in decisions on the server, asking people next time might prevent a massive kick off.

Again, absolutely love this server, and fully appreciate how much work you guys do, just giving feedback and trying to help you guys KEEP it the best server around.

/Twisted

These forums are full of people asking for the cast speed to be changed on FF. I'm guessing that doesn't count as asking for people's feedback?

Like I have said you need skills to be able to be change on there own. Not change one skill = change them all.
 

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jus a note what about the wizz tao community that dont have a forum accnt and wont make 1 jus 2 vote who r equilly pissed ><?

Same for the war's who didn't they don't wanna put the effort in to vote why should there opinion mean anything?

As a war my opinion on cast speed is it seems like you just anally raped casters with a sandpaper condom and no lub tbh, while damn funny for a bit to watch and see the whole drama unfold the jokes over now yer?
 

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What really needs changing is spells all seeming to rely on a global cast rate as opposed to each spell having its own cast rate.

This is the first server I feel i've enjoyed playing a Tao (Cast speed of SFB made me feel like I was actually doing a bit more than usual).

Yeh I agree with you on here, im pretty sure the likes of Ice Storm used to have a quite fast cast rate on it and although Ive never played a tao in my life, I seem to recall SFB being quite a fast casting skill.

Then again though, Sam said that the implementation was based from official code so Im not sure how thats all worked out.
 

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From a wars point of view this may be true, from a Tao perspective it actually gave us a chance to level and kill mobs at a semi decent speed.

No my friend they were simply overpowered, the cast speed was ridiculous, tao's has always been a slow leveling class due to them being a support class, they are far from that on here.

Tao + Wiz can solo pretty much kill any boss on here, which was all down to casting speed.
 

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u jus said u never played a tao b4 so how can u comment ,,, sfb cast rate was average on all other servers and dealt pap dmg only this server makes taos enjoyable 2 play
 

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Its an overkill of a nerf across the entire board,
Not all wizard skills needed nerfing, we know which ones did need the nerf.

Its too big of a change, made even more of a shock by the other buffs to warriors.

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Flame Distruptor can be slow and powerful, Flame Field can be slow and powerful.
Bolt speed should be reverted
However Thunderstorm is way too slow now imo, i just went to TS level with another wiz and after 2 pulls decided to TT...

my suggestion would be:
keep FF how it is.
Speed FD up a bit, but not back to how fast it was
Take most other spells back (or nearly back) to the speed they were when fast.
 
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Its an overkill of a nerf across the entire board,
Not all wizard skills needed nerfing, we know which ones did need the nerf.

Its too big of a change, made even more of a shock by the other buffs to warriors.

Again not a buff a fix, also a nerf or ya miss that one?
 

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Its an overkill of a nerf across the entire board,
Not all wizard skills needed nerfing, we know which ones did need the nerf.

Its too big of a change, made even more of a shock by the other buffs to warriors.
What ither buffs?

The only change was making tdb work how it should work, no buff.
 

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No my friend they were simply overpowered, the cast speed was ridiculous, tao's has always been a slow leveling class due to them being a support class, they are far from that on here.

Tao + Wiz can solo pretty much kill any boss on here, which was all down to casting speed.

In PvP terms yes the spell cast speed wasn't great.

However the entire game isn't based around PvP and those of us who actively ignore PvP in favor of Leveling see this is a massive Nerf.

Tao are indeed a support class however this is a complete butt ****ing of our ability to level solo.

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u jus said u never played a tao b4 so how can u comment ,,, sfb cast rate was average on all other servers and dealt pap dmg only this server makes taos enjoyable 2 play

Bingo!
 

PaxoStuffing

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far from the maddening crowd
why have a poll when some people cant vote, me for instance, this is what i see at the top of the screen
Voters28. You may not vote on this poll

so even registered users are not being allowed to vote.
 

Reverance

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why have a poll when some people cant vote, me for instance, this is what i see at the top of the screen
Voters28. You may not vote on this poll

so even registered users are not being allowed to vote.

Does someone else from your household have a forum account?.
 

TigerSeaI

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cant you meet in the middle. make it slower on some skills and not others?....
 

Hoody

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Slowing AOE spells makes sense, single target spells dont

these cast speeds are not the same as euro mir, on euro i could repulse a war then hit them with a SFB but with these changes ive still got spell cool down so they ARE NOT the same cast speeds as euro