Consistency when dealing with exploits? server team response please.

[Razarus]

Lets take a quick look back at some of the previous exploits, exploiters, how they were dealt with and what punishments were given.
The community will be in a better position to make a fair judgment on the recent panic fix by the server team.

EvilMir – Dropping A LOT of very nice items- exploited for 11 Hours (KingTonys words) likely to be longer.
(Exploiting)No punishment at all. All items remained on the exploiters accounts and were sold for game gold and real life cash.
(Swept under the carpet)No Forum post explaining that this had been fixed.
(Intent)No punishment for people visiting the following day in hope that EM was still dropping.

EvilHog – Dropping A LOT of nice items – Exploited for 4 days.
(Exploiting)No punishment at all, All items remained on the exploiters accounts.
(Swept under the carpet)No forum post explaining that this had been fixed / ever existed
(Intent)No punishment for the people visiting the following days in hope EvilHogs were still dropping

ST Boars – Dropped 200Mill in gold over 2 days
(Exploiting) Full server rewind EVERYONE, double exp EVERYONE. So no punishment at all for those involved
(Forum Post) Posted on the forum due to users posting screen shots, would it have been swept under the carpet had the screenshots not arisen? I wonder..
(Intent) No punishment for the people that immediately ran there after the reboot to check.

DOSS Boss Killing – Soloing bosses that usually move too fast/ hit too fast but due to the DDoSS attacks were not attacking/moving fast if moving at all.
(Exploiting) No punishment for those that repeatedly took advantage of this attack that created an exploit and allowed things like DarkDevil to be repeatedly “kited” and solo killed.
(Swept Under the Carpet) Nothing mentioned other than, ddoss has now gone.
(Intent) not relevant here as once it was gone it was gone.

Hell Exp – Exp from orbs in hell
(Exploiting) de levelled the group involved by what seems to be a random number of exp/%
(Forum Post) exploded all over the forum.
(Intent) also deleveld those that visted the following day to hope that the exp was still provided.
From the exploits that I know of (above) I can see very clear inconsistency

1) Would the server team like to comment on why each exploit is treated differently?
2) Why some people get punished and others do not?
3) How will you be dealing with the Sun Pot exploiters and the Christmas Tree exploiters once you have finished your “investigation” ?
4) The Hell exp exploit was reported on the first or second day, would this have also been swept under the carpet had it not reached the forum?
5) What other exploits do we not know of that you have swept under the carpet?

 

[Skepta]

You care way to much about Mir, go have a cup of tea or something! What do you think this thread will achieve you ?

 

[+ULFBERH+T]

What a farce, it should be 24 BANS!!!!
warnings are in blue shouts ingame, no excuses, just spineless inaction.

cutting 24 cheats from the game would prolly attract double that back to the game.

 

[Loosecannon]

What a farce, it should be 24 BANS!!!!
warnings are in blue shouts ingame, no excuses, just spineless inaction.

cutting 24 cheats from the game would prolly attract double that back to the game.

screw you never cheated in a game so shut up.

 

[reecew]

recall set bug?

also shinsu bug? that you lot also exploited.

everything you named you sad ****s done.

 

[Razarus]

recall set bug?

also shinsu bug? that you lot also exploited.

everything you named you sad ****s done.

yes I forgot to include those two.
add them to the list bud
Its all a bigger picture than team vs tko, this is about consistency.

 

[HarryH]

Recalling inside the wall on orcs 6th, farming OWL to the extreme..

TKO and forsaken harvesting red thunder zumas. Muahaha

 

[Razarus]

I'm sure there are many many more. so where do the server team stand with consistency?
Is this recent "punishment" a knee jerk reaction to forum heat?
because you ignored the EM exploit heat, even denied it happened. so what can we expect from the team in the future?

 

[Kalamonde]

the only time i remember a big number of people banned from the server was when FaggotStreet were hit with the hammer, think i recall alot of the server being pissed off at the time due to nothing being done about them...then a sudden ban

i wouldnt expect the team to ban such a large amount of people again this late in the game, nor do i think loosing afew % will bother the 24 exploiters and i dont think the punishment is reasonable either when it has the warnings ingame, no 7day ban?

cant even dish out temp bans, never heard of them being given out.... though you could say koriban was given one.... give the 23 other exploiters the same temp ban! never going to be given a perma ban since the dev team dont seem willing to do that

i think those that only went intending to do it should have had the % loss and the ones that did benefit given a perm ban.... or loosing there account


/Pan

 

[HarryH]

It's a natural response for a governing body to clean up as much mess as possible with little fuss. If they make a mistake they try their best to patch it but why shout about it, it just attracts negative press and affects usercount. That's why I'm assuming they've taken a stronger foothold vs. any possible exploiting as it makes their job harder.

They can change how they deal with wrongdoers a year into the server. I'm sure they spent some time looking over past exploits and recent ones were the last straw, making them think 'okay we need a new way of discouraging bug abuse.

 

[Kalamonde]

or makes then think i may loose what ive exploited but i wont be banned so **** it attitude :P

 

[peterpan]

A lot of things stink about this
But it is good to see the devs taking a stand on something instead of the old view that it was our mistake and now its fixed.
Lets not bring all the past into it lets just look at this and set the guide for the future.
You all want Team guild punished. Whatever your reasons, 12 year grudge, he looked at me funny just keep it to yourself.
Do you want everyone in Team punished even if they weren't there? That's not fair or right.
Why has Koriban been unbanned an only one level taken away when he as in a position of trust.
Server staff take ages to ban someone and make sure they are right.
This needs to be seen to be fair.
This has been done without the care that goes into a banning because Team upset people
Punish those that exploited but be as sure as when you ban that you have the right people

 

[MCDONALDS]

Hahahahahaha cry more pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[LionMir]

the only time i remember a big number of people banned from the server was when wadestreet were hit with the hammer, think i recall alot of the server being pissed off at the time due to nothing being done about them...then a sudden ban

We didnt even cry about it yet they loose one lvl boom 12 cry threads

/Wadestreet

 

[Razarus]

We didnt even cry about it yet they loose one lvl boom 12 cry threads

/Wadestreet

lose*
and its not 1 level, everyone has had a different amount of exp reduced. one of the reasons we want to know what calculations were used/ supposed to be used as there isno clear pattern.

once again, no reply from the staff?
trying to sweep this one under the carpet?

 

[Loosecannon]

We didnt even cry about it yet they loose one lvl boom 12 cry threads

/Wadestreet

how would u feel you login and lose 1 lvl you worked 2 weeks solid for? and didnt do a feckin thing to deserve it other than kill a boss,yh im sure you would be fine with it dick head.

 

[MCDONALDS]

hahaha razarus acts a big man all over forums and loses and lvl and crys a river to everyone ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[KingTony]

Didn't he just remove 100% from everyone?


Loose why are you playing dumb, you knew what you were getting your self in for.. wether you gained as much exp as everyone or not.

 

[Loosecannon]

Didn't he just remove 100% from everyone?


Loose why are you playing dumb, you knew what you were getting your self in for.. wether you gained as much exp as everyone or not.

no m8 i lost 97% some lower lvls lost 40% aso lost 110% dont know where the spag gets the numbers from pmsl its all over the shop dont think these guys have a clue.

i gained no exp other than from the subs in there and gk,so say 00.10% from the run and they take 97% of me yey welldone.

 

[MCDONALDS]

loose cannon cry a river bro