Consistency when dealing with exploits? server team response please.

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Jamole

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First of, I think those that exploited should be 'punished' and those that were intending to exploit should also have some form of 'punishment'. However, if the Server Team had tested their work properly then we wouldn't be in this situation. Unfortunately people will exploit where possible, it's been proven already on this server with EM and the likes that people will take advantage whenever they can. Saying that, the rules clearly state anyone caught exploiting will be banned.

My £0.02 - Instead of handing out hot-headed % punishments I think the server team should have taken their time and looked into the issue properly - you can't hand out the same level of punishments to everyone. An example, if you are caught exploiting then take away the % made and more - if there is intent then take away an average from those that intended to exploit, don't hit them with the same punishment as those who benefited from it.

It's a tough one to call but I'm sure if the server team take their time and investigate properly then you can come to a fair punishment. This just looks like complete laziness and panic from the server team, sorry, but just my thoughts.

Also, by the sounds of it, looks like the previous exploits should have been handled a lot better.

I fear that this will have a very negative impact on the server and we'll soon start seeing serious consequences because of this. I know Team / TKO / Foresaken are all massive rivals but without these players the community would be non-existent. You all wind each other up about getting body drops from one another and this and that but without these players the server just wouldn't be as enjoyable. Even the casual players will suffer, how are they going to get the top end items if none of the bigger guilds are there to get them and shove them in TM? It all has knock on affects and the server team should have spent some time to think about this properly.

Temporary bans should have been handed out whilst the matter at hand was being looked into.
As for the whole situation with Koriban, this to me seems like a complete farce.
 

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hahaha razarus acts a big man all over forums and loses and lvl and crys a river to everyone ha ha ha ha ha ha

I was not involved in this or any other exploit.
My level and % remain intact thanks for your concern.

I am asking questions about how we can expect the server team to deal with issues going forward.
If they cannot remain consistent over a 12month period what do we have in store over the next 12 months?
If they hand out random punishments (in terms of no set % no set Mill XP) just random reductions across different characters.

What faith can we - the community have in the server team witch such actions?
ignoring some exploits, randomly punishing others. banning people, unbanning people.

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Also please not the severity of this exploit vs the EM one.
The EM one introduced 3 dark armours and 8 arrow barrage books (to name very very few of the spoils gained through the exploit) these items were not taken away, noone was punished.
yet a group of people that did maybe 30% exp have all been reduced by RANDOM amounts.

completely biased approach to punishment.

Still no comment from the server team?
are you really so afraid of justifying your actions or is it simply that you cannot?
 

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I was not involved in this or any other exploit.
My level and % remain intact thanks for your concern.

I am asking questions about how we can expect the server team to deal with issues going forward.
If they cannot remain consistent over a 12month period what do we have in store over the next 12 months?
If they hand out random punishments (in terms of no set % no set Mill XP) just random reductions across different characters.

What faith can we - the community have in the server team witch such actions?
ignoring some exploits, randomly punishing others. banning people, unbanning people.

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Also please not the severity of this exploit vs the EM one.
The EM one introduced 3 dark armours and 8 arrow barrage books (to name very very few of the spoils gained through the exploit) these items were not taken away, noone was punished.
yet a group of people that did maybe 30% exp have all been reduced by RANDOM amounts.

completely biased approach to punishment.

Still no comment from the server team?
are you really so afraid of justifying your actions or is it simply that you cannot?
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wrong. please get some truth within your storys before you talk total dribble
 

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Haunt the exp removed is not a punishment.

remove 2-10times the amount of exp they exploited then thats a punishment.
 

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wrong. please get some truth within your storys before you talk total dribble

I have a reliable source, someone that was there.
Regardless of the number of items, there was no punishment was there?
so where is the consistency?

still no reply from the server team.
this really is becoming quite the joke.

add poor communication to the list of extremely poor service being provided at the moment.

were my questions in the opening post too difficult for you to answer Milo? BH? Sam? Lilcool?

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They can change how they deal with wrongdoers a year into the server. I'm sure they spent some time looking over past exploits and recent ones were the last straw, making them think 'okay we need a new way of discouraging bug abuse.

so don't punish some, but punish others when it suits?
such a silly thing to say. got you a like from Milo though so did your job Harry. how far you have sunk..

Milo reading this but cant respond, speechless at the size of the server teams fook up i presume?

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Ah Samuel is currently browsing this thread, should have a reply shortly
 

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bugs and cheats users -- from TEAM never been banned,from others guilds,all been banned ,u know why ? cause they a internal staffs
 

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Haunt the exp removed is not a punishment.

remove 2-10times the amount of exp they exploited then thats a punishment.

Have you read nothing that anyone has said? People gained at most 30% - some people gained nothing, so that's between 3-100 times the amount.

You are so retarded it actually hurts to read your posts.

I wish someone had advised your parents about other options.
 

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I have a reliable source, someone that was there.
Regardless of the number of items, there was no punishment was there?
so where is the consistency?

still no reply from the server team.
this really is becoming quite the joke.

add poor communication to the list of extremely poor service being provided at the moment.

were my questions in the opening post too difficult for you to answer Milo? BH? Sam? Lilcool?

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so don't punish some, but punish others when it suits?
such a silly thing to say. got you a like from Milo though so did your job Harry. how far you have sunk..

Milo reading this but cant respond, speechless at the size of the server teams fook up i presume?

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Ah Samuel is currently browsing this thread, should have a reply shortly


I just to point out, no1 in team was at the EM, mysty wasn't even there because it was adrian on her character.. so at the end of the day who ever your listening to is talking ****.
 

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I have a reliable source, someone that was there.
Regardless of the number of items, there was no punishment was there?
so where is the consistency?

still no reply from the server team.
this really is becoming quite the joke.Your the ****ing joke...server team has laid down some law now move the **** on.

add poor communication to the list of extremely poor service being provided at the moment.

were my questions in the opening post too difficult for you to answer Milo? BH? Sam? Lilcool?

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so don't punish some, but punish others when it suits?
such a silly thing to say. got you a like from Milo though so did your job Harry. how far you have sunk..

Milo reading this but cant respond, speechless at the size of the server teams fook up i presume?

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Ah Samuel is currently browsing this thread, should have a reply shortly

It's pretty clear to me at the start of the server the GM's blamed them selfs for any exploit that was in the game, But now they have realise they are only human and make mistakes...and if they make a mistake people are goin to exploit and if they exploit they deserve to be punished.

I'd imagine any further exploits that appear will be punish quiet harshly.

Let it go...Team have had a great run with exploits and gotten away with it until now.

No matter how much you kick and scream kyler , you ain't gona get your own way.
 

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Have you read nothing that anyone has said? People gained at most 30% - some people gained nothing, so that's between 3-100 times the amount.

You are so retarded it actually hurts to read your posts.

I wish someone had advised your parents about other options.
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Dont read his posts then idiot... problem solved ....

punishment ..... i don't see the word fair in its definition

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Out of curiosity. If they banned all these ppl who would be left to play this server? Its not like it has a usercount of 1000 ppl.
 

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No matter how much you kick and scream kyler , you ain't gona get your own way.

Not after my own way, I don't agree with exploiting in the slightest, the server team know this.

Just after some explanations from the server team regarding my questions on the opening post.
Thanks for dropping by though bud.
 

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Not after my own way, I don't agree with exploiting in the slightest, the server team know this.

Just after some explanations from the server team regarding my questions on the opening post.
Thanks for dropping by though bud.
Hi everyone,

Lots of drama over the last few days. Something we're not always equipped to handle well however we've come to a decision as a team.

24 Players have been deleveled as a result of the Hell Cave Exploit. Behavior like this will not be tolerated and if these players continue to exploit their accounts will be terminated. After a long investigation into Koriban (One of the 24 players who took advantage of Hell Cave exploit) we've decided to reinstate his account with a final warning. We believe we acted in haste and with bad information when banning him and in light of the fact that he had reported numerous bugs in the past we decided this is the best course of action. He will be punished along with the other 23 players but for now that will be the end of it.

For the Auto SunPot Marco, steps will be taken in the next reboot to mitigate this and investigations into punishments are ongoing. We're committed to ensuring everyone has a fair and level playing field and use of macros such as these unbalance that field. We'll continue to work on blocking these and other negative macros going forward.

Regarding the Christmas Day exploit we have found Players that appear to of tried to take advantage of it but failed. We're continuing to investigate this and punishments will follow.

For the 39 players who did not receive GameGold when attempting to open the Christmas Present you shall receive 10000 Gamegold on login. Apologies for the delay in this matter.

Finally for players who lost TM Items in the rare and unfortunate RollBack around Christmas we're still working on restoring these items to you. It's proving more difficult than we hoped but we plan to restore these items as soon as we can.

Regards,
Chronicles Staff


anytime buddy

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You're possibly even worse, but you're Irish so I'll let you off.

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Also please not the severity of this exploit vs the EM one.
The EM one introduced 3 dark armours and 8 arrow barrage books (to name very very few of the spoils gained through the exploit) these items were not taken away, noone was punished.
yet a group of people that did maybe 30% exp have all been reduced by RANDOM amounts.


meh, when apex took sabuk wall at launch the server team logged onto the guild storage account and removed 20million that they got from sabuk wall, the dev team hadnt even mentioned they had done untill the leaders sent a few Pms on the forum... why didnt they do that with those items? :O

Dev team was mad at apex for not reporting it as an exploit/bug but was more of a dev team **** up then a bug -.-
 

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Your guess is as good as mine kala.
Kickey, thanks for posting a large amount of information that does not answer a single question i asked.
Comprehension again...
 

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what are you? teams drip... your the only one crying like a little bitch and this doesn't even include you? so what are you even doing lad.
 
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