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How exactly do these work?

Do they add a hidden amount of specific elemental damage or something? Do the different levels have different stats other than dura?

Also if I have Fire + 26, Ice + 4 and use an Ice Stone does it convert all of my attacks and the +26 fire into ice? Or does it instead discount the fire but use my +Ice damage instead? Or does it discount both because my fire damage is greater than my Ice?
 
Lionsm!ght

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DarkSacred said:
How exactly do these work?

Do they add a hidden amount of specific elemental damage or something? Do the different levels have different stats other than dura?

Also if I have Fire + 26, Ice + 4 and use an Ice Stone does it convert all of my attacks and the +26 fire into ice? Or does it instead discount the fire but use my +Ice damage instead? Or does it discount both because my fire damage is greater than my Ice?
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They add bonus elemental damage to melee hits only

I believe its 10,15,20,30 element as the size goes up. (this is based on the GSP files which i believe Jamie has replicated for dark stones)

When you do a melee hit all elements will apply damage, ie your 26 fire will do 26 fire dmg vs targets defence and your 4 ice dmg will do 4 ice dmg vs targets ice defence.

Elemental dmg on melee hits is bonus true dmg, ie not effected by ac/mr, but is effected by targets reistance, 0 res gives 1 ele dmg = 1 true dmg, 1 ele vs 5 weakness = 2.5 dmg, 1 ele vs 5 resistance = 0 dmg. I think its 20% reduction vs resistance, hence 5 resistance doing 0 bonus dmg.

elements are not applied as part of dmg multipliers on your melee spells such as blade storm, lotus skills etc.

The only "spell" that currently benefits from a dark stone is assassins summon puppet, once you have the elemental puppet passive.
 

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Lionsm!ght said:
They add bonus elemental damage to melee hits only

I believe its 10,15,20,30 element as the size goes up. (this is based on the GSP files which i believe Jamie has replicated for dark stones)

When you do a melee hit all elements will apply damage, ie your 26 fire will do 26 fire dmg vs targets defence and your 4 ice dmg will do 4 ice dmg vs targets ice defence.

Elemental dmg on melee hits is bonus true dmg, ie not effected by ac/mr, but is effected by targets reistance, 0 res gives 1 ele dmg = 1 true dmg, 1 ele vs 5 weakness = 2.5 dmg, 1 ele vs 5 resistance = 0 dmg. I think its 20% reduction vs resistance, hence 5 resistance doing 0 bonus dmg.

elements are not applied as part of dmg multipliers on your melee spells such as blade storm, lotus skills etc.

The only "spell" that currently benefits from a dark stone is assassins summon puppet, once you have the elemental puppet passive.
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So say you use the Fire Dark Stone the highest one with +30 damage, if the mob has x5 fire weakness. Would this +30 damage then be multiplied to +75 damage? (30x2.5=75)
 
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Blaise said:
So say you use the Fire Dark Stone the highest one with +30 damage, if the mob has x5 fire weakness. Would this +30 damage then be multiplied to +75 damage? (30x2.5=75)
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Lionsm!ght said:
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Yes so 30 Fire Element on x5 Fire Weakness would hit 75 extra damage.

You said the highest Fire Stone gives +30. Is this +30 (Fire Element of just +30 extra damage) so if i had no fire kit equipped and just the largest fire stone (+30 one) i would hit an extra 75 vs x5 fire weakness? Or just an extra 30 damage?
 

Drakay

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Lionsm!ght said:
The below was from beta when Jamie mentioned the calculations

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