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eternallight

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i used to use mir 2 resource website but cant any more

what is the formula to work out DC please
i know it was just half the dc range so 10-20 = 15
but i dont know how to add on A speed and luck into the equation. guess luck ads 10% per luck of averge but clarification would be great

help would be appreciated,
many thanks
 

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i used to use mir 2 resource website but cant any more

what is the formula to work out DC please
i know it was just half the dc range so 10-20 = 15
but i dont know how to add on A speed and luck into the equation. guess luck ads 10% per luck of averge but clarification would be great

help would be appreciated,
many thanks

Don't quite understand your question.

As I understand it, if you have 10 - 20 DC you hit a random amount between those 2 values, so you'd hit 15 on average. Luck +1 would increase your chance of hitting your maximum DC by 10% (might be wrong on the %).
Attack speed simply makes you attack faster.
 

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[Nerd]

A = Average Min/Max DC value
B = Max DC Value
C = Swings per second at variable amounts of A.speed (Hit the trainer for 60sec with different amounts of A.speed, record results, divide by 60 then convert to %attack speed gained per point of A.speed)
D = Luck Value (As decimal.. 0.3 = Luck +2(Decimal value is always 0.1 higher than luck as everyone has 10% chance to hit max innately))
E = Average DC result

E = (((100*D)*B)+((100-(100*D))*A))/100

Example: I have 8-15DC & Luck+2, A = 11.5, B = 15, D = 0.3.

(((100*0.3)*15)+((100-(100*0.3))*11.5))/100 = 12.55 Average DC per swing

Adding A.speed get a little more complex..

E = ((((100*D)*B)*C)+(((100-(100*D))*A))*C)/100

For argument sake lets say A.speed+1 is equal to +10% A.speed

E = ((((100*0.3)*15)*1.1)+(((100-(100*0.3))*11.5))*1.1)/100 = 13.805 Average DC per swing

This gives you your Average DC per swing, if you want me to break that down any more let me know.

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[Nerd]

A = Average Min/Max DC value
B = Max DC Value
C = Swings per second at variable amounts of A.speed (Hit the trainer for 60sec with different amounts of A.speed, record results, divide by 60 then convert to %attack speed gained per point of A.speed)
D = Luck Value (As decimal.. 0.3 = Luck +2(Decimal value is always 0.1 higher than luck as everyone has 10% chance to hit max innately))
E = Average DC result

E = (((100*D)*B)+((100-(100*D))*A))/100

Example: I have 8-15DC & Luck+2, A = 11.5, B = 15, D = 0.3.

(((100*0.3)*15)+((100-(100*0.3))*11.5))/100 = 12.55 Average DC per swing

Adding A.speed get a little more complex..

E = ((((100*D)*B)*C)+(((100-(100*D))*A))*C)/100

For argument sake lets say A.speed+1 is equal to +10% A.speed

E = ((((100*0.3)*15)*1.1)+(((100-(100*0.3))*11.5))*1.1)/100 = 13.805 Average DC per swing

This gives you your Average DC per swing, if you want me to break that down any more let me know.

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My mind has literally just been melted!! I never was too good at math.
 

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D = Luck Value (As decimal.. 0.3 = Luck +2(Decimal value is always 0.1 higher than luck as everyone has 10% chance to hit max innately))


Incorrect.

Luck is feels exactly the same on here as it does on euro, the code for luck on euro is as follows.

People do not have Luck 1 innately. The formula for luck this if Luck is more then 0 (atleast 1) then chance to max hit is 1 in (10 - Luck). It is not 10% per luck, It's exponent upto luck 9 (being max).

Luck 0 = 0% Chance (Or lets say 0% EXTRA chance since you could still hit max by randomness)
Luck 1 = 11.11...%
Luck 2 = 12.50%
Luck 3 = 14.29%
Luck 4 = 16.66...%
Luck 5 = 20.00%
Luck 6 = 25.00%
Luck 7 = 33.33...%
Luck 8 = 50.00%
Luck 9 = 100.00%
 
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Well that's wrong, luck goes up to 7 here, jus like your idea that luck doesn't affect Tu was wrong aswell :)
 

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My mind has literally just been melted!! I never was too good at math.
Seems most people in UK arent. Government bringing Chinese maths teachers over to teach teachers who to teach maths because it seems the average chinese person who went to school at all is much more numerate than the average UK person who bothered to go to school(and paid attention).
 

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Well that's wrong, luck goes up to 7 here, jus like your idea that luck doesn't affect Tu was wrong aswell :)

So your saying Luck +7 Weapon, Luck+1 Armour and Luck +1 Necklace still = Luck 7?

Just because Luck 7 Is max on weapon doesn't mean it is Max you can get.
 

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So your saying Luck +7 Weapon, Luck+1 Armour and Luck +1 Necklace still = Luck 7?

Just because Luck 7 Is max on weapon doesn't mean it is Max you can get.
As far as i know its always been luck+9 to hit max 1/1 lol
 

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Yep, a total of luck+9 has always hit max every hit.

They may have coded is so the max you can get on a weapon here is 7, but you'd still need an extra 2 luck to hit max. (Luck2 neck or Luck1 neck luck1 arm)
 

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Seems most people in UK arent. Government bringing Chinese maths teachers over to teach teachers who to teach maths because it seems the average chinese person who went to school at all is much more numerate than the average UK person who bothered to go to school(and paid attention).

You're right. I had to teach myself maths to pass as my teacher was terrible.
 

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Luck+7 is max luck i think, not max that u can have but max needed, as in a warrior with luck+7 will hit max damage every time
 

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Seems most people in UK arent. Government bringing Chinese maths teachers over to teach teachers who to teach maths because it seems the average chinese person who went to school at all is much more numerate than the average UK person who bothered to go to school(and paid attention).
Have to agree 100% like I said, when I was went to school I was never too good at math which did in turn make me not very find of it at all, when I went to college when I was 17/18 it was a necessity that you took Mathematics and English with your course, the way I was taught, the communication and 1 to 1 help I got whilst there was actually what helped me pass and receive my qualification. I'm still not excellent at it but I am more than capable of doing so just takes me a little longer than anyone else to work it out but I get there :P
 

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My maths skills aren't great but I have a sister and she has 2 daughters. Pros and cons is all im saying.
 

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Edit: Just re-read Jamies post and see he says something completely different, he's probably right. It's going to be very difficult to check this if the figures are so close together. I will assume Jamie is right, just very much hope he is as I will stick with L1 :-P
 
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