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Sawell said:
Afraid not, I would verbally bash you, dissect you and post every aspect of your personality and how you perceive things to utterly embarrass you right here right now if you persist with your childish defensive stance, you're like a book on the side wide open with lots of diagrams.

Your thought process doesn't go further than your own brain I’m afraid, so talking to you, or *trying* to have a debate with you is like trying to get through to a brick wall. Sadly others fail to see this, you will deny any wrong you ever make until the point where you are laughed at, and you’re an embarrassment to yourself. I won't continue, I don't go that low. But watch your step; you really don't want me on your back.


Anyone can flame buddy, takes a special kind of skill you won't get from graphic design to really hit someone though.

lmao, shutup seawall.

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take your best shot prick.

The fact that you assume you could analyise me through a few hundred posts makes you look like an utter retard.

As anyone, even the almighty urbanfox, my personality outside of these forums greatly differs.
 

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ipixie™ said:
take your best shot prick.

The fact that you assume you could analyise me through a few hundred posts makes you look like an utter retard.

As anyone, even the almighty urbanfox, my personality outside of these forums greatly differs.

Ignorance is bliss, or so they say.
 

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ipixie™ said:
im such a winner. Dont you think?

Yep, after all... that's all you want from your life right? Just to win or more so to give others the impression you're a 'winner'.

Two different characters John and this one isn't here for popularity points, to try and make his own fan base of newbie’s. Your psychology is old, over-used and very easy to pass.
 

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well at least you agree.

And stop being so jealous of my fans.

PM me for an autograph, ill happily send you one in the post.
 

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urbanfox said:
GFX desginers make much more than that.

$130,000 is about the standard rate for a concept designer, will go down soon due to technology changing, and the higher need for analysts and macmen. Shame too.
 

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if u keep saying that the number of analysts will increase and ill end up losing money =`P (doing BTEC ND IT Practioners level 3)
 
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Sawell said:
$130,000 is about the standard rate for a concept designer, will go down soon due to technology changing, and the higher need for analysts and macmen. Shame too.




Actually we were both wrong, apparently they make an average of $50,000-$75,000 USD.

Also, the deman for them is actually going up.


Sawell said:
It's right because it was an article I read on CNN (I think, was a couple of years ago).


I'm not sure what you read, but almost everything you see is digitally designed.

jamis said:
Urban keeps banning me... :(

Everytime I ban you I cry.

But seriously, the next one will outlast your lifetime.
 

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ipixel said:
Im sick of all you little fags going on about how i suck, and how being an fantastic designer consists of opening a photoshop document and using as many filters as possible.

First, this is a constructive post, so if a mod/admin could sticky this for future reference, please do so.

Graphic Design in general

You all seem to think that being a designer is making l337 siggys and avatars...which its not. People who brand themselves graphic designers or w/e on these forums are talking out of their arses.


First of Design spans near enough the entire multimedia genre...


Examples...


Print Work

The ability to work with a limited color palette known as CMYK, nothing like the RGB setup most of you use...

CMYK is for print, you may select a light red in RGB and when printed ( professionally ) could turn out to be completely different when printed...so when creating work for print your constantly trying to work with colors that will appear as they did on screen.

Web Design

Web design isnt all about putting up a l337 banner and sticking your name on it...its all about content orientation and pushing forward a companies information and products in an efficient and attractive manner.

You have to design for the masses, always working with everyone in mind, same goes for print.

I cba covering anymore areas in multimedia design, but by now i would have expected you to have absorbed my point.

Fact is, design influences our product buys, what car we drive, clothes we wear...pretty much everything material..

Skill

This i have been dying to say...

Firstly i see a few of you critising me on my work, how i use gradients and so forth...

The ability to produce a good image is based on skill...i can create good art with minimal work and filters etc as most of you use...

I do vector art, which is a hell of alot harder than your beloved photoshop...first off its done using the pen tool, well most of it, and takes a bit more skill than running a few filters over an image..anyway back to the point.

Before critising my work, try recreating it, i highly doubt you will be able to reproduce anything ive done, and pull the style off aswell.

Design isnt all about what you use, its how its conveyed, proportion and placement.


Creating effective and attractive art

You all seem to think that a bunch of sh!t fonts and a render makes you fantastic...it doesnt.

I can spot someone a mile off using filters, some are too easy to pick up.

When creating stuff, dont pack it to the throat with filters, outerglows and beveled fonts...try creating something that stands out.

Minimalistic artwork may seem easy to create, but its the exact oposite, it has to be placed correctly, and attractive with little use of anything.

When using fonts, dont just jump on the bandwagon and start using the latest retarded font, your default windows font set is more effective and looks a hell of alot better.

When downloading fonts, pick a decent san serif font, a squarish font for those of you less familiar with typography.

These work alot better with images, and add to the overall appearance.

Im sick of seeing alot of you using pixel fonts at size 10/12/14, pixel fonts are called pixel fonts, because they stay small and are still readable.

When using a pixel font, before downloading, most sites have a preview at the correct size for use, most are 8pt, keep them at this, and remove the anti-aliasing, do this from the font menu when it appears, change it from sharp/strong to none, boom, you got a decent pixel font.

Critisism and commenting

Im a spack when it comes to commenting, im hard on your work, and tell you its the sh!tiest thing ive every seen.

chance are, im not far wrong...but take it with you, go back to photoshop and come back double hard, then maybe ill give you a little pat on the back.

im sick of people jumping on me on threads for demotivating and hurting people by telling them they suck, its exactly what they need, i got it when i was starting out, and it worked.

before you start telling me i suck, and that you and your 14 pt pixel font buddies start "owning me" with their l337ness, ask why i think it sucks, i aint gonna come out with it first time round, if your not willing to try, i cba.

People who cant produce artwork that isnt porn, jamis for example, or matrix, both who say i suck as soon as i comment, need slapped. They think they are the next big thing, when they are just going down the pan. If you cant handle the crit, just stop designing.

Matrix however, finally realised my strategy and took onboard what exactly was going on.

If you LISTEN you will earn my respect, and ill have no problems trying to help you out, but if you repost the same image with more filters, i will flame you, no doubt about that.

Conclusion

Dont give me all that, i know what i do, i earn money from it, and i couldnt care what a bunch of fr00blets on a forum say, ive been told by people that i have massive potential in the design industry, and tbh i cant wait.

ill help, but only if your willing to learn and take the abuse that comes with it.

now this provides effective evidence that the forum "hardmen" are nothing but sh!ttalking litle fags.

Enjoy.
I know this is an old topic but....

Your work is good but, calling people 'faggots' or w/e wont get your point across. Maybe you should try going to a different graphics forum and posting you work their, they will be able to grade your work better ...try maybe this one?! http://www.nationalsigleague.com/ you can win money their for making good sigs and puting them in tourneys.....and most people on here will be blown away if they think their sigs are good.....ahh well just my 2 pence ^_^
 
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5Man! said:
you can win money their for making good sigs
did you even understand what pixie posted, he said a good designer doesnt just make sigis then post them on forums as far as i understand then you tell him to go post his sigis on a forum, i apologise if i understood it wrong but thats the way it appears to me.
 

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Some people make siggys as a hobby...they dont need to be a graphical designer or w/e..
 

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You people are STUPID. Without concept artists you have nothing to start with. You cant make program a machine to be imaginative.
 

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jamis said:
You people are STUPID. Without concept artists you have nothing to start with. You cant make program a machine to be imaginative.

thats the best thing you have ever said, and for the first and last time i agree.
 

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5Man! said:
Some people make siggys as a hobby...they dont need to be a graphical designer or w/e..

siggys are gay and a waste of talent ^_^

posting work on this forum is also a waste of talent
 

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Pyraine said:
siggys are gay and a waste of talent ^_^

posting work on this forum is also a waste of talent

lol my holz are over and the rest of the summer seems bleak so I will probably be filling gaps in the evening (after 9) doing random art that I may post for the enjoyment ( or revoltion) of the community.

5Man! said:
I know this is an old topic but....

Your work is good but, calling people 'faggots' or w/e wont get your point across. Maybe you should try going to a different graphics forum and posting you work their, they will be able to grade your work better ...try maybe this one?! http://www.nationalsigleague.com/ you can win money their for making good sigs and puting them in tourneys.....and most people on here will be blown away if they think their sigs are good.....ahh well just my 2 pence ^_^

Yup :) I'm only new to electronic art/graphics & a reasonable newbie at photoshop - but without being conceitied I have considerable talent in drawing by hand. My siggy below I made yesterday for mir3 forums (render: Prince of Persia).

ps - I'm sad and read all those pages of flames, I guess being actively away from LomCN for 2+ years... things have changed?
 
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