Detailed Video on why Wizards need looking at

[Koriban]

[video=youtube;C-kneLtgF78]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-kneLtgF78[/video]

Video pretty much shows just how ridiculous wizzies are when they reach "end-game", with so very little effort required to do so/output their aoe damage.

If any wizard can say that anything in this video is balanced, you're full blown nuts and need your head checking.

I'd highly recommend doing some balance tests before your next reboot.

P.S My favourite moment is 6:40 mins in.

 

[Sorry]

[video=youtube;C-kneLtgF78]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-kneLtgF78[/video]

Video pretty much shows just how ridiculous wizzies are when they reach "end-game", with so very little effort required to do so/output their aoe damage.

If any wizard can say that anything in this video is balanced, you're full blown nuts and need your head checking.

I'd highly recommend doing some balance tests before your next reboot.

+1 to this , and i think Kori is one of the few that actually says the truth on this forums and cares about balances and things like this

 

[Samuel]

[video=youtube;C-kneLtgF78]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-kneLtgF78[/video]

Video pretty much shows just how ridiculous wizzies are when they reach "end-game", with so very little effort required to do so/output their aoe damage.

If any wizard can say that anything in this video is balanced, you're full blown nuts and need your head checking.

I'd highly recommend doing some balance tests before your next reboot.

P.S My favourite moment is 6:40 mins in.

We looked into magic shield and done a comparison with the official source, the code was pretty much identical, we did a test to confirm and the "strength" of magic shield is the same as any other server, and has been the same for the past 13/14 years.

The duration of the shield still needs to be compared, but it seems the major gripe you have is with the strength.

Now thats not to say wizards are not completely OP... I have always said that wizards are ridiculous once they are a high enough level, and we did try and put some blockers in for this, but everyone went crazy "anti-wiz server".

I don't think magic booster is helping the situation, MB is a "non official" spell in my eyes as it was never tried and tested on euro... I am not sure if anyone ever got it on USA either before it closed, but I am going to try and find out how WeMade deal with wizards.

Sam

 

[Tai]

I wouldn't expect to win a 1v1 fight as a warrior against a wiz 6 levels higher than me if I was trying, let alone using the tactics displayed by kenpachi in that video which consisted of running round in squares like Stevie Wonder

I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing with this, just saying your vid is a little biased lol


I think we're all in agreement that MB is currently giving too much MC though

 

[Koriban]

I wouldn't expect to win a 1v1 fight as a warrior against a wiz 6 levels higher than me if I was trying, let alone using the tactics displayed by kenpachi in that video which consisted of running round in squares like Stevie Wonder

I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing with this, just saying your vid is a little biased lol


I think we're all in agreement that MB is currently giving too much MC though

KEN can't get near because of Clone master target. No matter what's happening, or if mobs are hitting it, it will always flinch KEN. Then when KEN does get near he walks into a FW or an FF to the face.

I'll happily re-do the test with Depress, same story, he'll get maybe 1 or 2 hits off but it'll never kill me, whilst I deal redonculous damage. The levels mean nothing besides maybe 5 more dc and a bit of extra health.

Lets not forget an equal levelled warr to a wizz is roughly 3 levels behind, seeing as how wizzies naturally level the fastest.

 

[Skyline]

I wouldn't expect to win a 1v1 fight as a warrior against a wiz 6 levels higher than me if I was trying, let alone using the tactics displayed by kenpachi in that video which consisted of running round in squares like Stevie Wonder

I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing with this, just saying your vid is a little biased lol


I think we're all in agreement that MB is currently giving too much MC though

That's true, a good wizard should always manage to beat a warrior in a 1v1 when they have all their spells such as FF/MB... Unless a warrior manages to get that lucky hit. But no wizard should be able to take many hits from a warrior with decent DC, even with shield. (Does TDB cut through Shield here?).

Bring in ParaRings!

 

[Jicaa]

Once Wizard get the nerf they need, Warrior will be next. It will be and endless cycle and 1 class will always be the dominant.

 

[Samuel]

So officially it seems, reading both official wemade skills section and nearly runs (korean version of mir2 resource), whilst MB is up, all skills used cost more mana... There is no specifics on how much more though, so I need to speak with one of Milo's korean sources.

Sam

 

[Tai]

KEN can't get near because of Clone master target. No matter what's happening, or if mobs are hitting it, it will always flinch KEN. Then when KEN does get near he walks into a FW or an FF to the face.

I'll happily re-do the test with Depress, same story, he'll get maybe 1 or 2 hits off but it'll never kill me, whilst I deal redonculous damage. The levels mean nothing besides maybe 5 more dc and a bit of extra health.

Lets not forget an equal levelled warr to a wizz is roughly 3 levels behind, seeing as how wizzies naturally level the fastest.

That's true, a good wizard should always manage to beat a warrior in a 1v1 when they have all their spells such as FF/MB... Unless a warrior manages to get that lucky hit. But no wizard should be able to take many hits from a warrior with decent DC, even with shield. (Does TDB cut through Shield here?).

Bring in ParaRings!

I see a couple of times in that video where kori's shield dropped while ken was attacking him and ken turns around and runs off :P

 

[KingTony]

As much as magic booster is OP i didnt need to watch you video to know that a wizz beats a warrior in 1v1, not to mention a contest room pvp with no mobs other players ect.

Testing balance in a 1v1 will prove next to nothing because actually wiz and warrior are both broken class's atm.

 

[evilwomann]

Mayb if you had ken attack you at full speed rather than 1 hit at a time might make a wizz look less tanky, ...... 1 hit...... 1hit...... 1hit

with his speed he can flatten ew2 much quicker than shown in this vid

I think this vid has made wizz's look more op than they are, in that hp kit your average ff is 140ish with the odd high 200, so I'd say it's more like 7-8 ff's to kill him WHILE mb is up

Can u please do a vid in max dc and watch a wizz get 1 jitted thru sheild? Lol

let you use ew2 to make cash not to make vids to nerf wizz ><

bear in mind also that it's a lvl53 wizz with okr (insane ac) + loads of hp items

 

[Vulcan]

As much as magic booster is OP i didnt need to watch you video to know that a wizz beats a warrior in 1v1, not to mention a contest room pvp with no mobs other players ect.

Testing balance in a 1v1 will prove next to nothing because actually wiz and warrior are both broken class's atm.

on the contrary i think all classes apart from Archer are pretty good, as sam has hinted, MB needs looking at, but the rest are ok, Archers tho are cak

 

[holly]

I can't believe EW2 let you use his character to prove that he needs a nerf!

Edit: just read EW2 post pahaha.

 

[CrazyBear...]

Two questions that need to be asked

a) Do you think it's correct wizards should be able to attain over 600 HP?
b) Why is Magic Booster giving such ridiculouc amounts of base MC?

 

[<SOSO>]

Umm..imho kori is right, tht vid is talking from itself...
Also I remember when lvl 36`ish warrs were mopping the floor with lvl 42/43/44 and even higher wizzies bk on euro 2 tdb's and it was nn for the wizz..if u ask me its a little stupid for a range class to have that amount of dmg on an AoE skill like ff and tank so much.
Imo u choose to make a warrior because u want to have the best burst dmg when ur @ a certain lvl and floor ppl left and right before they hit tt lol
I wont even coment on the poor sin...just lol'd irl
But tbh 40 or 39 base mc will rape with ff..dunno how much lk was tht wizz on..anyways enough with this fkin poem
Peace :P

 

[Jest]

So officially it seems, reading both official wemade skills section and nearly runs (korean version of mir2 resource), whilst MB is up, all skills used cost more mana... There is no specifics on how much more though, so I need to speak with one of Milo's korean sources.

Sam

Yes. Double MP usage if i remember correctly.

In my opinion the spells and damage aren't too much of a problem though. It's the wizard achieving 600+ HP.

 

[Turrican]

So officially it seems, reading both official wemade skills section and nearly runs (korean version of mir2 resource), whilst MB is up, all skills used cost more mana... There is no specifics on how much more though, so I need to speak with one of Milo's korean sources.

Sam

told you this ages ago :P its even on our web.

imo it should be at least double mana consumption.

It was obvious from the start wizards was going to be OP, mir seems to favour them in all aspects of the game, and the wizard player has come to expect to be the most OP class. Hence why so many counter measures was put in place at the start which tbh they needed.. by removing them and making all the top wizard spells so easy to get, wizards have just become OP again.

Thank god bluedarkarmour hasn't been changed yet..

 

[evilwomann]

Nerf wizz's, past caring I started lvling my warr few weeks bk, if they get nerfed I'll jus switch over to a warr lol

gg

 

[flamefield]

U talks bullshit, Depress killed me only need 2 hits, any high DC worri can use 1 flamesword took off me 300+ hp, oh man, wiz may killed by one hit without Shield even u reach lvl55, U mean that is fair to every wizz in the game??
And i doubt most players in team are cheaters, with fast running speed and hit speed.

 

[reecew]

100% agree something needs to be done about wizzards..