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JoeAshton

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kk lets get this sorted y the **** are u all slating servers for taking money of idots that donate to them y the Fu.. is it so wrong i dont c 1 bad thing about it.

Who the **** cares if host gets 50 pound and gose an buys some thing for him self y the hell not.

if ppl are so stuiped to donate to a p server then dont slate owner saying omfg not playing cry fu.. cry omg he donated cry cry. u should be lol at the noob who just wasted his money on a server that will og down in a month

hell and while were on u lot crying all time u wonder y theres no gd high rates up.....

cuz all u tw@'s seem to do is moan and complane all the time

hell when i had server up u was crying omg look at black night hes hacking i once seen him use hacks and was warned then u all turned on some 1 else after wanring and 3 delvls then soon as i ban here u all cry omg omg do u bum blacknight omg rl friends omg cry cry.

tbh u all need to **** off theres about 30% of ppl on here that dont moan or complan and are happy to just ignor u but its getting well over the top now.

hell i was buying a dedi next month and making a super high fun mess about server for ppl to play on till a real high rate comes out but **** it ur not worth the effort.


/Ashtons ****ing u all off cuz ur dicks.
 

Exodus Syn

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Think someone has had too much shandy,

Also well done on saving about 3 minutes by typing like an idiot lol

omfg/omg = 7 times
cry = 9 times
 
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DrRaus

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In all fairness, it's up to every gm for him/herself if they are or aren't accepting donations.

But what puts me off donating servers is that you can 'buy' stuff that aren't even dropping in game. Having IRL money is worth more then the effort and time people that don't have or don't want to spend money on a private server.

Donating itself isn't a crime, but if a server is accepting donations it should make sure there is a right balance between getting stuff for money and getting stuff by hard work.

For example I can't see harm in donating for items till a certain rareness.
But in private server history there have been quite some servers who sold rebirths, items etc that weren't even ingame for the regular players.

Accepting/making donations is one, but why create an unfair gap between paying and non-paying that can never be caught up just by hard work.
(The answer is greed on GM side, nvm ;))
 

Geordiehc

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This has been discussed millions of times and fact is those on a dedi need a way to pay for the server, and those playing want to help it out and unfortunately/rightly for supporting the server they do get a advantage like 90% of item shop games out there.

I don't think anyones saying theres anything wrong with donations because all the top servers still do them (Zentaur, Avenge Extreme etc) but i think its all gotten a bit out of hand now whith every 'NEW' non lomcn supported server getting ostrasised for it. Maybe it is because of the sheer quantity and price they sell the items for who knows but i do think some rules need drawn up because it is really unbalanced.
 

JoeAshton

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it dose not matter what they sell them for hell look at wow they sell things that max out ur satas or add +1000 to all and ppl dont moan like u lot
 

JoeAshton

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y is it lololol ???? there both rly the same game lol as are all MMORPGS
 

Exodus Syn

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y is it lololol ???? there both rly the same game lol as are all MMORPGS

demand and supply is everything...that's why you can't compare Private mir 3 with WOW...the difference in player base is HUGE so things like donations/money for items is completely different...except for the obvious..but it's pointless trying to explain to an idiot.

If you're so fed up of mir and people moaning about donations etc, ignore mir forums and go play WOW......
 

JoeAshton

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am not fed up of mir just ppl like u giving **** to host all the time when i dowt most of u cant even install sql lol

have u been on wow p[ servers theres top 10 -15 server have like 30-120 ppl on them rest have like 20 or less same as mir so ye player base is same tbh
 

chimera

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Donations should be voluntary and not expected, if you can't keep a server going without them don't run a server. If you intend to make people desire things ongame by making them available by donation only then you are expecting donations, that includes making things so rare ongame that people virtually have to donate.
 

COMPAQ12

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donations are fine as long as server stays up and pices are fair in long time servers its exceptable simply beause they have earned the trust of the user and they no there money is used well.
The probs with some new servers they take your cash give u item then when they reach their target they take server down then reopen under another name and start over again and so on which is just a scam to raise cash and that is why people moan at new servers who want donations from day 1 ,i agree with chimera start a server that can run itself then when pple are happy then they may donate mir its not a buissness for profit its had its day its just fun game to play but idiots who rob people are killing it end of now stop crying and try to understand the users point of view it is their cash your after, after all
 

Exodus Syn

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donations are fine as long as server stays up and pices are fair in long time servers its exceptable simply beause they have earned the trust of the user and they no there money is used well.
The probs with some new servers they take your cash give u item then when they reach their target they take server down then reopen under another name and start over again and so on which is just a scam to raise cash and that is why people moan at new servers who want donations from day 1 ,i agree with chimera start a server that can run itself then when pple are happy then they may donate mir its not a buissness for profit its had its day its just fun game to play but idiots who rob people are killing it end of now stop crying and try to understand the users point of view it is their cash your after, after all

First sensible thing I've seen you write on lomcn....

Though still can't use paragraphs ;)
 

mapadale

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No server should require donations to run, if they do then its not worth playing. As its not the player as a player you have in mind but there money.

On my server there is the option for people to donate, but as I've stated and so should other servers(but rarely do). Have it outlined that donations are not required. If you want to put up a server on your home connection and keep it running, then its down to yourself to maintain that server. Just don't buy or build a home PC for this, as the hardware will fail quickly.

You want to run your own server, off your own connection. Then at least build a machine that is a server and runs like a server and acts like a server. Not like most of these machines that are being used to run servers on.

If you can't afford to run the server yourself and require your players to donate for parts or what ever then its your own silly fault for not thinking about it in the long run.

I've built servers for nearly 5 years and the only time I've had them fail, is when the hardware is comming to the end of its user life.

If you want to create a server and run that server, then you really should prove that you can have that server up and running for at least 6 month before requesting donations.

But the issue we have nowadays, is that every server. Wether it be new or old are asking for donations and even do donation drives.

I have only this to say to people. Think before creating, can you afford to keep it up out of your own pocket.
 

Chlorr

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have u been on wow p[ servers theres top 10 -15 server have like 30-120 ppl on them rest have like 20 or less same as mir so ye player base is same tbh


Well... you clearly havent been seeing as wowscape for example has more players than 120 alone, was 5k last time i played and that was 1 of the top... not counting. no doubt wowgasm and toxic are higher than that as well as a fair few others id immagine ("that" being your estimate of 120 people, i know how dense some readers can be >.<).


Owner relying on others to pay for a server THEY themselves chose to host is stupid imo, if it was to cover pgrades or so on with a server population growing then understandable, but things like instantly donating for ma rebirth to lvl with is unbalanced beyond belief. All peoples attempts at balance go out the window and kids with daddies CC gain unfounded egos seeing as they've just spent about £100 on pixels and therefore earnt them ;)
 

Pottsy

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Actually donations to a server aren't what bothers me, its the advantage players get for doing it.

Also saying there won't be any donations, when you get ingame you get a GM shouting "Donate £50 for full Mir Set blah blah"

No point taking time to make a server thats balanced for everyone then throwing it out the window within a matter of hours with a donation.

You may as well make something up within 30 mins, host it, get donations and your be where the people are who spend months making 1 lol.
 

mapadale

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Actually donations to a server aren't what bothers me, its the advantage players get for doing it.

Also saying there won't be any donations, when you get ingame you get a GM shouting "Donate £50 for full Mir Set blah blah"

No point taking time to make a server thats balanced for everyone then throwing it out the window within a matter of hours with a donation.

You may as well make something up within 30 mins, host it, get donations and your be where the people are who spend months making 1 lol.
How do you think they make there money.

By offering somthing thats not availble to other players, is what attracts people to donate to the server and donation for items to me is wrong. Espeically when the items can be found in the drop files.
 

Shady

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am not fed up of mir just ppl like u giving **** to host all the time when i dowt most of u cant even install sql lol

have u been on wow p[ servers theres top 10 -15 server have like 30-120 ppl on them rest have like 20 or less same as mir so ye player base is same tbh


it would be a massive suprise if you can , you cant even spell the most simple words you fking moron , another ten year old with a big gob.
 
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