[DUPLICATE] Massive rant about an age old bug.

[GaryOak]

Hi there all

I'm new to forums and have a slight issue here.


Also this is fairly long (sorry stupidly long) so sorry so if TLDR its fine.

I thought I'd make a little post about certain people moaning about botters/macro users (which I admit is annoying but not everyone is a botter/macro user).

I recently had a war named Boudicea level 46 Try to pk me in mines with 1hit kill exploit (Now I'm level 24 and have to mine to make cash in game), We got into abit of a heated debate including nothing but him attempting to troll and be racist. (I'm still pretty sure this is due to his noob chara trying to kill a miner in mines and I killed him instead, This however I cannot prove).

However after this debate since I seen he was simply trying to use the 1 hit exploit to kill and get no murder and free ore, Boudicea started accusing me of botting saying I was there for 30 mins since I told him I'll just post on forum bug exploiting and didn't move, Even though every time the wall died I moved and no one was near me to actually see this in first place so there is no way he could say I was there for 30mins(even though I had started mining about 15mins prior.

After the first hit I put fraps on to watch him try to pk rest of the miners with one hit, He would then wait for time to pass so he could retry, He then weirdly started being really nice(to an extent) after I told him about fraps and starting talking to me like a human, weird that. He then told me he hates macro users and botters and he was simply testing whether they were botters (which is fine apart from his method of testing).

Remember this is how he tests - Has good gear on with a mace and flamesword so pretty much max DC. Not a simple few punches with fist or another weapon without flame sword. So this nearly killed me in 1 hit at level 24 so anyone below 20 would have died.

I then simply told him I'll log on my Tao and see how he likes it. By this time he is on Boudicea mining whilst also on his Tao Minge(nothing against multi windows).
But he hates ppl using bots and macros, yet he is on 3 diff windows 1 mining on Boudicea exploiting 1 hit bug on low level miners, Minge in mines, and the third which he told me about but never asked.

So why is it I cannot mine in this game without pkers exploiting bugs or level spells at trainer without pkers.

Seems the game is more focused on higher levels.

I do not macro (I wouldn’t even know how to), I don't bot (same thing). I have to mine because I cannot get bosses because other guilds just farm them and I’m too low at present so I don’t get big cash items.
I need to mine to buy items/spells etc.

Now I have no problems with the game being focused that way but what chance does a new player have against a level 46 warrior and a level 46 or whatever Tao.

Now he seems to think he can justify himself so I will let him try before I post screenshots etc. I am sure to hell his video is going to be edited to the max since he said he wasn’t racist and after I mentioned fraps he was very polite.

Now I know this is the game and I know pking is fine and part of the game, and this is how Mirs always been bla bla, EURO the lot, If you don’t like it leave etc.
But if you’re like Boudicea and hate botters etc. At least don’t use exploits in the game to get them, not everyone there is a botter.
Also he mentioned why I didn’t talk when mining(like this is the 7 dwarfs and I’m meant to be singing hi ho all day long so people know I am not botting, Plus why should I talk to myself whilst mining alone ? Surly that would be slightly even worse than mining and watching TV.
But the main reason is he ran up and hit me with flamesword lol which made me move rather than say Oh hi ^^ how’s you, and secondly surly he could have simply came up to me and said HI and seen if I answered or not, Even at that I was watching TV running AVG etc so I was not paying 100% attention to a guy hitting a wall which I really do find so exciting I honestly believe ppl who mine just sit there watching their bag and the way the dull head of the axe hits the wall.

But anyway the point is if new players are getting melted by silly high levels who won’t even get punished because there exploiting to kill, and I can’t get bosses.
where and what is a noob to do? and surly without new people starting the server will just die or be full of well the same old people which will render it pointless.

Anyway Really sorry for the silly long story and I know 99/100 won't bother reading this and the ones that scim will just ether jump in anyway to stand up for her stupidity and the rest won't care which is also fine.

But I just needed to post since EVERY SINGLE TIME I mine I have some high lvl pker exploiting 1 hit kills then crys wolf with botters and crap (I don't even mind the low level ones since they can't just 1 hit me and I can actually fight back).
Also trainer room is just a s bad I will go away for the toilet or make food come back DEAD. Cant it be made safe so I can lvl my useless skills that I don't really lvl elsewere ?

Anyway let the flame war commence.

 

[DeadGirl]

Re: Botter/Macro users and especially Exploits.

Hi there all

Hi, i agree it is annoying, but if they pk my miner, i simply go back and kill them on my main.

Now i just tend to go further in, kill the mobs and find a quiet spot where i can mine in peace.

Get ready for the flames though.

 

[Foopah]

Re: Botter/Macro users and especially Exploits.

Good luck getting them to listen, bugs and exploits get removed but is there any punishment to people who offend? Is there ****. It's a joke. People who use this 1-hit exploit will probs be given a new weapon and some candy while the people abused by this exploit get de-leveled and get their candy stolen from them. Just seems to be the way the GM's operate on this server. Correct me if am wrong GM's and if you want I'll drag up an old topic about bug abusers and the amount of people openly willing to admit they would abuse a bug or exploit here because there is is no repercussions for it.

Go on team, remove my post, seems a few of them have been removed recently. Oh no an upset player, delete post and ignore.

EDIT : Boom, decided to bring it up anyway... http://www.lomcn.org/forum/showthre...y-i-am-abusing-any-bug-I-find&highlight=abuse

 

[Ninje]

Re: Botter/Macro users and especially Exploits.

I couldnt be bothered to read through the wall of text. but i guess its the same plf cry.

But as its addressed in my account . yes im tired of the soame old macro using accounts.

Day in day out i see the say ones , but today i woke up with the choice should i kill the normal bots.

wooma taur and other others. so i thought fk it . ill go in and hit a couple. why the fk should i the only player who prob mines with no afk ever should be punished with less mine rates that everyone id complaining about.

Since day 1 when players complained about it i started to fraps certain times of the day to show macro use , including times some players even forget to get off horse before starting the macro and ended up wondering around the mines on the horse in patterns.

i have all the files which to upload showing names times etc etc which can be attached to main accounts . and then if uses in a script should be just banned and be done with it.

as of now mostly will know me for being a miner and i will start to list with video of all using such a script.

I in no way try to hide or protect any of my account names as the op does i also dont make accounts to hoin guilds to take adavtage of guild chats to find and and hunt with out the use of a probe necklace. this sort of play is very un becoming of any real mir2 player.

I as a player go by the following.

1.play by 1 client ( 1 on a screen at a time with no action to others ) others being a stall etc not a playing character
2. no abuse of any script
3. no abuse of any game bug with intention of
4. making alt account to spy in other guild chat to gain an advantage
5. use any other know bugs to get any advantage in game including keeping bug that are found to use them to my own advantage.
6. i take nothing in game personaly besides when abused in a real life fashion. which your never see me in.
7.constant whisper abuse in a none gaming manner.

When addressing the forums if anyone has a real issue their real game name should be used . so other players can take them serious.



These points being taken in can a games master please reply with a game name for the OP so i can upload the correct file 1st.
as ive been accused of rascial abuse and all sorts and if this is going to happen at least the real players names should ne noted.

Due to health reasons i may have made some mistake via spelling etc for which i do appoligise. and in all i wish no player anyharm or abuse unbecoming of a real mmo player.

Ninje / Boudicea

Forgot to mention the cry of the OP " if you kill my afk miner ill kill you in snakes cave" but not man enough to say who main is when coming with such threts

 

[GaryOak]

Re: Botter/Macro users and especially Exploits.

Hi there again Minge.

I'm sorry you seem to be confused with what crying is and what’s bug reporting. In fact by resorting to saying someone is crying or noob etc just proves your lack of intelligence to say anything worth while.

I was simply pointing out the fact of your bug exploiting by killing miners in 1hit.
Then you’re 12 year old style of trolling and then your lack of smarts to approach a conversation so resort to being a racist.
But then once finding out that this was going on forum and that I had you FRAPED and Screenshots of your stupidity, you quickly changed your tune and tried to be more polite just to cover your own ass.

So you don't need to read my full story since you know the truth and the fact of what had taken place you can lie all you want but to put it in simple terms for you here we go.


Why do people like Minge moan about bots and everything when they have multiple windows open mining (by the way I have no problem with this, but it’s a tad silly and hypocritical moaning about bots etc and have 3 miners mining). Also is more than high enough to take bosses etc, so unlike a newbie can kill bosses to make money as well as mine. (also not a problem with high levels mining just the ones that do this)
But then has to use exploits/bugs in game to kill miners in 1 hit so no murder etc. (also I am aware the 1 hit system was put in to stop people running into fights and making people red etc so I don’t know how to fix it because both sides are annoying).

However I’m pretty sure IF you reply to this post it’ll be something like this.

Lol crywell gf lmao cool story bro. To long didn’t read trololololol.

Anyway I have no problems with you for now it’s been done and is over and you certainly won’t stop me playing. Regardless of how much you attempt to kill me or lure on me or exploits.

On a further note I actually miss the day of proper trolls that used smarts not these stupid ass trolls that think there trolls by acting like there a 5 year old with tourette's syndrome winding there parents up to get a toy oh look I’m so random and funny trolololol cry much noob owned hahaha I showed him its ok kid.

INB4 TLDR

 

[Samuel]

Re: Botter/Macro users and especially Exploits.

There is no way we are going to read all of this... If you wanted to get points across then separate posts detailing each issue is the best approach...

Sam

 

[Andeh]

Re: Botter/Macro users and especially Exploits.

dont see the problem tbh. if I see someone i suspect is using macros to mine, ill just kill them. enough said. I only have a piackaxe equiped, so I dont care if I get murder.

 

[Male]

Re: Botter/Macro users and especially Exploits.

There is no way we are going to read all of this... If you wanted to get points across then separate posts detailing each issue is the best approach...

Sam

Ninje / Boudicea / "Minge"? killed him mining and then blowup in a frustrated rant of abuse about macro/bot minners
Gary is upset claiming that Ninje is bug exploiting by one hit killing minners with FS.

Thats all this post is about.

To OP the "one hit no curse" is not an exploiting and not to mention the fact that if Ninje was doing this in anything more then a Random fit of minning rage that he/she is prone to (check the forum for posts on it.) then they would just use a leveled Red alt to do it risk free...

In short, go level and hunt bosses BDD is normaly empty of people apart from them running to DD.

 

[Samuel]

Re: Botter/Macro users and especially Exploits.

Ninje / Boudicea / "Minge"? killed him mining and then blowup in a frustrated rant of abuse about macro/bot minners
Gary is upset claiming that Ninje is bug exploiting by one hit killing minners with FS.

Thats all this post is about.

To OP the "one hit no curse" is not an exploiting and not to mention the fact that if Ninje was doing this in anything more then a Random fit of minning rage that he/she is prone to (check the forum for posts on it.) then they would just use a leveled Red alt to do it risk free...

In short, go level and hunt bosses BDD is normaly empty of people apart from them running to DD.

Thank you... One hit FS bug has been addressed in the bug section and I have a work item open to fix it.

Sam