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terriblen

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I appreciate the time and effort put into making this so I have made reasoned answers

1 NO this has been discussed and about 4 other threads and I can see no real reason to do this apart from wizards saying I dont like this.
2 maybe but not that important
3 this is obv under review anyway boots n belts just been changed and might change again Its a minor detail
4 maybe because they do look slow and there is a very well argued post already. Why did u bother?
5 NO this was discussed on Ace forum. Added items are supposed to be really rare on this server You cannot break slotted items so NO. Plus the gameshop items are supposed to be not that important.
6 dunno and why? foxes was always hard ish on euro. Was loads easier on ace.
7 NO this changes the game. IF there are people who Just want to level then make a guild called Just Level and if you all soloer in an multi game then maybe you can get other players to leave u alone. No need even for a guild, Just hunt be on skype and rt as soon as you feel threatened.
If you do want to levelling only caves then they have to be loads slower exp have level caps and drop only pots. No grouping and no use exp pots.
8 Shouldnt this be in bugs section
9 They are rare then?
10 Someone else says they are. Rare then
11 bug section
12 NO make no sense for a business plan to sell rather than rent out space. And as discussed on aceforum General view was that gameshop items were to be mostly cosmetic and not that useful.
 

bayya

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I dont see why wizard pet times should be extended at all. If it takes you an hour to get them then you are tryin for the higher level ones, so you can go to caves with more exp. Try lower level ones and it wont be such a chore. This is designed as a group game not a solo game. It became more solo as people out levelled the content and skills were introduced and never balanced. Hunting in groups was the way to play on euro until got ts then it was smaller groups 2/3 ts with pot mules. Solo ers just have to grin and bear it until higher level enough to solo.
 

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Why do people not think norm mobs should not drop? They did on euro. Examples.

WSB droped from, Bonecaptain, bonelord, dd,lurespider,ok,whiteboar,nodes,zumagaurdians,zt,khazard

dbrace, bigape,bigrat,boneelite,centipede,dd,evilape,evilsnake,failoma,gangspider,ghoul,greatspider,iwt,ks,kh,lurespider,mtk,omaguard,ok,venomspider,zumarcher,zumaguardian,zumasatue,zt

As you can see not all bosses. Items like dss for example only droped from boss's DD,ES,KH,OK,ZT

Even books didnt drop from boss's only infact droped of wierd mobs. Deva for example. GK,Right and left guard, mtk, boneelite, CS.
 

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Worthing is depressing.
1: double the taming period on wizard pets. (wont harm players but only would save us actually retaming a pet every 30 mins and wasting like 30 mins every couple of hours on them.)
People should try taming in more level appropriate areas. just because a player can tame it doesn't mean they are automatically allowed 5 level 7 pets.

2: give wizards & taos 10 mins period for the bad times you lag out to come back and find your pets still there.
(it sucks to spend an hour taming/leveling your pets and in a split second you lose them, specially when alot of players still DC with no reason)
This is an unfortunate event, however that time spent leveling / taming pets could have been used productively leveling yourself & the above reason. I do like the idea of pets staying, but it should be limited to 1 re-log, otherwise it'll be chaos & no point in spells and you will see wizards all with level 7 FT's ....

3: make the bonus stat on a set show or explain what you gain.
This would be a cool feature, on euro it was shown on the website which was fine imo. Otherwise every time you hover over the item you'll see an essay.

4: speed up shinsu & increase Diva's Sight.
No comment currently.

5: empty an equipped slot on an item by a special hammer ? ( GS available.)
Would put rune market up, but i like way it is. Makes people think before setting up items, also if a player can 'chop & swap' their runes on items, it'll make their value increase dramatically which may not be a good thing.

6: spread spawns in fox cave.
Not been

7: leveling caves are for leveling and should never drop better than bosses.
(those who wants to level
should level.. and those who want items should hunt bosses.)
What... are you serious?? What is wrong with a player hunting for example PT, 5 days straight not to receive the occasional rare? ~Its not like every mob in PT has same drop files as a MTK. Its just much higher rates on normal mobs. No problem what-so ever with this. You just sound sour that somebody has got something nice and you haven't.

8: Check the stats on all Strong items
(some of them have even worse stats than the actual item even though i think they are currently the best items in game ? )
I thought their stats are meant to be worse but the bonus is the whole set?

9: check if all Strong webs are in drop files
(only seen a serpentsword..)
Only team member can comment

10: are Bronze belts on drop files ?
Only team member can comment

11: ( H ) boots and belts should be buffed based on that reduced the stats on normal ones.
(they still extremely hard to make...)
Think this was done in the shop
12: buy ! rather than rent storage space..
Why? No reason, no answer.

Answers in red..

on side note, all i seen in last 3 days of reading forums is moans/complaints from yourself...
 

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I Haven't seem anything about strong items apart from players asking questions only to have other players guess at what they do. Don't actually think there is a set bonus.

There are bronze belts ingame. Justinbeiber had/has one. Very rare though. That's the only one I've seen.

Every mob ingame should have a chance to drop something nice accordingly. But from what I've seen all mobs from PT, ZT, PSC and so on have exactly the same items on drops. If so it seems a lazy way to do it.

I thought mobs would drop something it sounded like they would carry eg. Right/Leftguard (whatever one does fire damage) has a chance to drop FF. I remember getting WSB from rmv on every server I have played. Was hoping it would be here also :S
 

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while I can sympathise with the pets/DCing issue no1 complained on euro wen we were all on dial up? cant see a reason to change it. If ur dcing or ur nets playing up just play another char :D
 

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you are joking yeah.u chose wizz deal with it and as for drops so if i choose to solo i cant get a lucky drop.?
 

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I don't get why euro drop files couldn't of been used and stuff added accordanly. We have the user count and would of been balenced.
 

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I agree with most apart from the wiz pets, tao pets and normal mobs dropping.

My thinking is that Wizards don't HAVE to have pets to level. It's a luxury and luxuries should come with a risk and some commitment.

Taos seem ok to me and level 7 Shinsu / Deva are really useful.

I love the fact that people who don't like to constantly fight over bosses or camp spawns 24/7 have a small chance of a semi decent drop from mobs. As it is at the moment suits everyone perfectly. You have the hardcore no lifers camping the hardest bosses in game and getting the items that come with, then you have people that like to keep themselves to themselves and just level at their own pace whilst having a small chance at slightly improving their Mir experience.
 

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Pets are not a luxury. If a wiz wants to do some solo hunting then pets are a necessity and having a 1-2 hour wind up period just to be able to solo hunt is a piss take if you're having to worry about them untaming shortly after you start.
 

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Pets are not a luxury. If a wiz wants to do some solo hunting then pets are a necessity and having a 1-2 hour wind up period just to be able to solo hunt is a piss take if you're having to worry about them untaming shortly after you start.

then don't play a wizz? Honestly the fact warriors have no AOE spell and can't level as fast as a wizz really annoys me, please make BA hit for 300% of my dc TY.
 

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then don't play a wizz?

That's a pretty bad counter argument, just because something was a certain way on euro doesn't mean it should necessarily be the same here, games change and evolve over time.

I'd be fine with BA being buffed to be honest!
 

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then don't play a wizz? Honestly the fact warriors have no AOE spell and can't level as fast as a wizz really annoys me, please make BA hit for 300% of my dc TY.

are you joking or serious? warrs dont need a AOE they lvl ok bullpit is 44+

BA has never been a lvling spell its simply a spell to hit ppl running off when low hp in pvp ;) and lvl 3 used to hurt
 

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The silent majority agree with No.4 ive pm'd them all.
Dont listen to the vocal minority that always cry nerf. Thats a sure way to fk things up, like ss..

dont nerf anything on any class coz the bellends cry foul.
 

SmavidDavid

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Worthing is depressing.
Pets are not a luxury. If a wiz wants to do some solo hunting then pets are a necessity and having a 1-2 hour wind up period just to be able to solo hunt is a piss take if you're having to worry about them untaming shortly after you start.


i saw plenty of wizards level on euro without pets. FW/Lightning, TU & Tbolt. Infact subzero leveled on euro in PSC turn undead leveled himself in PSC. Pets can be a massive bonus leveling and need a negative to counteract it. I never saw people complain on euro.
 

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are you joking or serious? warrs dont need a AOE they lvl ok bullpit is 44+

BA has never been a lvling spell its simply a spell to hit ppl running off when low hp in pvp ;) and lvl 3 used to hurt

lol, I was taking the michael, but wallnut seems determined to have everything, as his argument states just because it was like that on euro doesn't mean it should be same here, what he fails to understand is wizz mc is STILL way off where it potentially can be with all items etc. He wants changes made, I was simply replying in kind, with the sort of rediculous idea that was being mooted earlier!
 

SmavidDavid

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Worthing is depressing.
The silent majority agree with No.4 ive pm'd them all.
Dont listen to the vocal minority that always cry nerf. Thats a sure way to fk things up, like ss..

dont nerf anything on any class coz the bellends cry foul.

Well how about they become vocal? A community is made up of all these people. Speak, or be forgotten, people keep saying 'this is minorities on here' well its not our fault... it is theirs.
 

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Wizz just cannot solo lvl effectively on this server without pets it totally sucks! give us back our fw+lightning lvling change normal mobs AI back to how it was on euro and many other servers, wiz have been shafted on this server enough as it is, this one change to mobs AI affects 1 class hugely making one area for one class completely redundant as in past bichon completely off limit to wiz surely this is error/bug in the gameplay to have a major lvling area off limits for wiz?
 

terriblen

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Solo levelling is not the way forward. Everyone's mc dc sc is lower than the very high stats at the end of euro. Those high stats were result of 2 or more years of play not 6 weeks into the server.
Wiz may have been shafted but on most other servers there were so many wiz because they were easiest/fastest to level and so powerful everyone wanted to be a wiz. This suggests to me that wiz weren't balanced properly. Face it, much about euro was broken and wiz domination of classes was probably something that needed adjusting.

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Well how about they become vocal? A community is made up of all these people. Speak, or be forgotten, people keep saying 'this is minorities on here' well its not our fault... it is theirs.

Many people in game do not visit forum. Player count 600+. Lomcn users 100 maybe. More on Facebook but what about all the players who do not read or write English very well.
 
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