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stonedalot

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so a wiz can be 1 or 2 hit dead and your going to complain about frost crunch rofl
 

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Even if FC is overpowered which I believe it is, wizards have literally nothing else in PvP at the moment, they deal zero damage, tiger necklace also mitigates a lot of hits, I really wonder what you expect to happen to wizards, they are in a horrible state right now and you want to make them worse.

/Xele

I'm a warrior, and I approve this post.

FC is the only thing I have to worry about with wizzies atm, at least until FF.

Archers do damage as well as can purple you, so that "may" need tweaking but to be fair - they die super fast anyway. Think it's fine as is.
 

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Archers do damage as well as can purple you, so that "may" need tweaking but to be fair - they die super fast anyway. Think it's fine as is.

Ice arrow does less damage and costs more mp then the spirit shot, I find it almost imposable to kill someone with just ice arrow because even medium hp can outpot it. Im still using coral rings tho so my dc sucks lol.
 

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crazy change, considering wizzies are only useful for slowing in pvp
 

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Can't actually believe they nerfed this and didn't give us anything to compensate...

/Xele
 

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Just wait till FF...Some people will say its OP, others will say its too weak.
 

Kani

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hah well what's the point in playing a wiz now loooooool, FF? Don't be silly, someone will make a post on forums crying that it killed them or some silly thing and it will get nerfed too
 

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Guess i can take ice arrow off key now, dont need a low dmg high mp skill lol.
 

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Guess i can take ice arrow off key now, dont need a low dmg high mp skill lol.

I will be taking frost crunch off a key now also.

Now instead of fighting back when someone tries to PK me ill just drop all my items on the floor and TT.

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Guess i can take ice arrow off key now, dont need a low dmg high mp skill lol.

I will be taking frost crunch off a key now also.

Now instead of fighting back when someone tries to PK me ill just drop all my items on the floor and TT.
 

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Nerfing frost crunch, on in my opinion the weakest low level pvp class is just amazing. Don't understand this one at all, do any of the team play a wizard? I know everybody cries for their own class, but I share a tao archer and wiz and have no complaints with a tao or archer....

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Nerfing frost crunch, on in my opinion the weakest low level pvp class is just amazing. Don't understand this one at all, do any of the team play a wizard? I know everybody cries for their own class, but I share a tao archer and wiz and have no complaints with a tao or archer....
 

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Lol this team just proved how weak they are giving into a few crys on forums, now every noob will be spamming them wanting buffs/ nerfs
 

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The problem with Mir is that the spells are no way counter balanced, When most game makers enter the world of balancing they generally think about the whole range of spells and not what's next on this list.

What do I mean by this?

Well, let's use some examples from WoW (I love quoting this game).

DOTS (Damage Over Time) is counter balanced by HOTS (Heal Over Time)
KidneyShot (Stuns your target) is counter balanced by Trinkets (Bring in these, they are a must)

Okay, not amazing examples and I don't actually have a broad base of knowledge to work on, but my point is there! The way these games develop their spells is clever and effective!

They have items with Chance on hits, they have Trinkets to dispell or remove immobilization, they have countless shields (various for different classes, be it armour increase for a few seconds or a shield for a few minutes), they use HOTS, they use DOTS.

This game actually takes skill and team play to become the best, non of this ... This class sucks , wahh wahh! Granted it took WoW YEARSS to do this but now its at a stage where people are in love with the way it works!

This SHOULD be the same for this game, 3 weeks in and your all like "Im leaving its ****", stop moaning like little ****s and be patient, the team are not going to listen to you rant and rave about whats wrong if you don't have any proof or legitimate calculations.
 

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This SHOULD be the same for this game, 3 weeks in and your all like "Im leaving its ****", stop moaning like little ****s and be patient, the team are not going to listen to you rant and rave about whats wrong if you don't have any proof or legitimate calculations.
The problem is that the Dev team are good coders just not true Mir players.

/Xele
 

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When you have played mir for years, you can tell which classes are strong and which are not very quickly. That doesn't mean it will remain like that at level 50, but at lower levels, wiz are just awful. I honestly don't think I could kill the same level warrior if I landed 20 consecutive spells without missing. he has to land 2, and I die. At this stage of the game wizards need a small buff, not a HUGE nerf, I'm sure of that much. maybe at later levels, they need nerfing, I can't comment.
 

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Where does it say fc been nerfed? I missed something?
 

Doug

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Hahaha fk me! Walkin round with eyes closed, it still does **** damage surely if your gonna nerf it's effect the dmg should be increased?
 

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Wiz of all classes nerfed?

The server team need some experienced players on their team rather than just experienced coders.
 

Toddwhite

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I really think they need to realise this isn't just people crying, and there is a real balance issue.
 

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The problem with Mir is that the spells are no way counter balanced, When most game makers enter the world of balancing they generally think about the whole range of spells and not what's next on this list.

Agreed, I'd increase the freeze chance of FrostCrunch and FrostShot and give Taos a MassDispel to counter the effect. Mir3 global even had PurificationPots in the gameshop that removed all forms of poison, I'm not sure I'd want to see that here but it's another option to explore.