Gold

[jez]

i was wondering if it drops ok on here, from some of the streams ive seen they didnt seem to have much cash.
Theres nothing worse than a server thats too frugal with its cash drops. Its a royal pain in the arse when you cant hunt coz you cant afford the bloody pots and you need to go cashing to afford em all the time.

 

[Slipmatt]

I can assure you cash is not too difficult to get, I made 20k in 10 mins

 

[DeadGirl]

I can assure you cash is not too difficult to get, I made 20k in 10 mins

And it's been upped again lol

 

[Repo]

I think the problem is that subs don't really drop gold like they normally did, you'll be lucky to get 2k from one sub. however I found that WW was a good place to get cash by farming tree's and omawarriors. I made over 100k+ in around 30 min doing that, and there are other provinces that you can do the same with. The trouble is that sun pots do not stack in your bag and after killing 2-3 omawarriors you will be forced to tt and sell. But maybe they will change that.

 

[Jacko]

whole low gold system is broken since selling sunpots is the way to make money till level 40 on here.

And touching the old sunpots prices is unforgivable :P

 

[Samuel]

We are adjusting gold as we go along.

The aim is to ensure that gold is worth having.

Sam

 

[Hoody]

We are adjusting gold as we go along.

The aim is to ensure that gold is worth having.

Sam

gold was fine on ace and was worth having!

why was it changed from what it was?

turrican and nemo spent 80% of there item posing in mudwall safezone! people that actualy did more on ACE would more then lightly say it had enough use! so who said it was worthless and had the idea for the nerf?

ive not heard a reason why it was changed yet, just its been tweak again and again ¬.¬

 

[Aldor]

gold was fine on ace and was worth having!

why was it changed from what it was?

turrican and nemo spent 80% of there item posing in mudwall safezone! people that actualy did more on ACE would more then lightly say it had enough use! so who said it was worthless and had the idea for the nerf?

ive not heard a reason why it was changed yet, just its been tweak again and again ¬.¬

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you Pan, I'm happy sitting on the fence on this subject, but: Wasn't Ace only running for 5 months? Can't really say if the economy would have been stable or not after a decent length of time.

 

[Hoody]

well you can also argue that this new server mite not last long enough to even grow an economy :P

ive said i can understand the change but such a drastic change? if new content is added new items will always help keep it stable! if bosses start dropping gold chest and stuff then id totaly agree with them being removed, but 20k from a boss drop is over the top when say 8 people have killed it? the shares in the group are hardly gunna be epic!! just sounds like were all gunna be running about as tramps with swords and broke magicians trying to earn afew gold with magic tricks!

the IWT nerf alone has already killed some excitement into going killing the things! seeing gay low level items dropping from a boss dont give the feel of a decent drop -.-


there are more then enough ways to balance and remove gold from the game, bring guild territory back! increase the cost to have them! increase the cost to run wars! put a cave teleport in that takes you outside the entrance but costs abit to use it! (im lazy as **** id well pay 100k for that)

add more ways to spend the gold rather then just remove it from the drop files!

 

[itchi]

I have to agree that taking/reducing the gold drop so drastically will hurt players in the long run, I think best way to deal with this issue to increase the gold gained a little and adding gold bars to boss drops. I'm only saying to add gold bars on a off chance so at least if the boss didn't drop you have cash to split in group.

like hoody said add ways to spend cash rather then eliminating the amount that's dropped, like on euro you had the casino, other servers had lotto, guild territories and other unique ways to get rid of cash.

also dose gold no drop on the floor and not into you bag like acem2? if this is the case can we go back to it dropping in your bag automatically as I hate picking up gold of the floor it just takes forever.

 

[Slipmatt]

whole low gold system is broken since selling sunpots is the way to make money till level 40 on here.

And touching the old sunpots prices is unforgivable :P

Chestnut trees are a whole lot quicker than sun pots, since there are so many of the trees in a run which could take maybe 20-30 mins to fill your bag you could potentially have around 10 gold chestnuts which is 50k from the golds alone.

 

[Kalamonde]

Chestnut trees are a whole lot quicker than sun pots, since there are so many of the trees in a run which could take maybe 20-30 mins to fill your bag you could potentially have around 10 gold chestnuts which is 50k from the golds alone.

Chestnuts when you're level 10-20 is fine, but a 40+ player who's hunting level 40+ mobs having to run around woomyon woods collecting nuts and berries is a bit ridiculous. We're adventurers, not bloody farmers; I personally think breaking even, or even losing a very small amount of cash is okay while hunting/levelling, even if you lose a small amount, you'll regain some selling the odd rare you get.

Think subs should still drop gold really, or at least armours or something easily saleable... doesn't have to be a lot but I'm fairly sure that having to do 1 hour levelling, then 1 hour collecting chestnuts etc. will lose the server players.

Also; Ace M2 lasting 5 months or whatever it was is a considerably good run for a private server nowadays, I don't think anyone had 500 gold chests filling up on storage characters, perhaps the actual item drops were a little high, but the gold economy was fine on there, don't see any reason to lower it so much, if it looks to be too high after a week or whatever, no reason why they can't change it on the fly. I'd rather have one or two slightly richer people at the beginning than 50 frustrated players who either don't have the time or the patience to either collect berries or grab a pick and go down the pits. Our grandfathers did that **** so we don't have to.

 

[jez]

i posted this elsewhere but its more than relevant here..

so long as enuff gold drops to cover pot expense at the very least! thats fine.
When its so rare you gotta go cashing or borrow 50K for pots before a hunt its bollox, and becomes a chore.
Also if its difficult to make enuff for pots, then there be no fkin heals or buffs.

Sam said.. We are adjusting gold as we go along.

The aim is to ensure that gold is worth having.

Sam.


Im not quite sure wtf that means tbh. its always worth having, wether your saving 5m for that purple added dildo or just hoarding for the day that mir armour arrives on TM.

There will always be people with 100m when most have 20m, crap gold drops will just reduce it and make things a chore. some will now have 20m and now most will have 3m etc.
i thought it was fine on Ace if im honest.

 

[phoenixdancer]

Haveing gold lowish is ok if the basic needs like pots and tals and stuff dont cost too much...

 

[NightScare]

gold was fine on ace and was worth having!

why was it changed from what it was?

turrican and nemo spent 80% of there item posing in mudwall safezone! people that actualy did more on ACE would more then lightly say it had enough use! so who said it was worthless and had the idea for the nerf?

ive not heard a reason why it was changed yet, just its been tweak again and again ¬.¬

No it wasn't,

Ace M2 was way Over-inflated, this mostly due to the rookie error the team made by giving people starting gold. I made over 6mill from exploiting that (after reporting it at least 5 times and being told it didn't matter)
A char could be created in under 30 seconds meaning an easy 100k per minute (as if i rememebr correctly you got 30k or 50k per char) , - the 5 minutes to create a new account due to the max characters allowed, you could pull off a quick 1-2mill in just under an hour which was 5-6 x more you could make from genuine hunting.

, before dropping it on the floor and never playing again, as it was obvious the team didn't give a monkeys.

Anyone on ACEM2 who had over 5-10mill either used that exploit, or had their items bought with exploited gold.

Gold should be like Euro, anyone with over 500k should be considered rich, Though euro was ruined by the SW Gold exploit, Items would of never gone past the 10mill mark for DSS ect without that exploit.

Yet within the first 2 weeks of Ace items were selling for 3-5mill, which clearly shows gold was too easy to obtain.

 

[LionMir]

No it wasn't,

Ace M2 was way Over-inflated, this mostly due to the rookie error the team made by giving people starting gold. I made over 6mill from exploiting that (after reporting it at least 5 times and being told it didn't matter)
A char could be created in under 30 seconds meaning an easy 100k per minute (as if i rememebr correctly you got 30k or 50k per char) , - the 5 minutes to create a new account due to the max characters allowed, you could pull off a quick 1-2mill in just under an hour which was 5-6 x more you could make from genuine hunting.

, before dropping it on the floor and never playing again, as it was obvious the team didn't give a monkeys.

Anyone on ACEM2 who had over 5-10mill either used that exploit, or had their items bought with exploited gold.

Gold should be like Euro, anyone with over 500k should be considered rich, Though euro was ruined by the SW Gold exploit, Items would of never gone past the 10mill mark for DSS ect without that exploit.

Yet within the first 2 weeks of Ace items were selling for 3-5mill, which clearly shows gold was too easy to obtain.

LOL you clearly didnt play for long

all these could earn you plenty of cash and chance of a item or gem
ST-7th boars
IWT's
Mining

Gold was about right on AceM2

 

[jez]

No it wasn't,

Ace M2 was way Over-inflated, this mostly due to the rookie error the team made by giving people starting gold. I made over 6mill from exploiting that (after reporting it at least 5 times and being told it didn't matter)
A char could be created in under 30 seconds meaning an easy 100k per minute (as if i rememebr correctly you got 30k or 50k per char) , - the 5 minutes to create a new account due to the max characters allowed, you could pull off a quick 1-2mill in just under an hour which was 5-6 x more you could make from genuine hunting.

, before dropping it on the floor and never playing again, as it was obvious the team didn't give a monkeys.

Anyone on ACEM2 who had over 5-10mill either used that exploit, or had their items bought with exploited gold.

Gold should be like Euro, anyone with over 500k should be considered rich, Though euro was ruined by the SW Gold exploit, Items would of never gone past the 10mill mark for DSS ect without that exploit.

Yet within the first 2 weeks of Ace items were selling for 3-5mill, which clearly shows gold was too easy to obtain.

You just reference an exploit you chose to use, that dont mean it was overinflated in ace. in all mirs theres people with **** loads of cash and others with fk all, infact its same in any mmo.
You can never counter that, it was made easier in Ace to gain money because of the auto gold pick up and auto distribution in groups, which was a good thing.
Even if you make gold hard to come by, ppl will still hoard and make more and others will have fk all (like IRL).

For those who have fk all gold the games shyte if you cant maintain enuff to afford pots to hunt with, and you have to make a conscious effort and go cashing all the time in order to afford to hunt. As you did, ppl quit, and thats not good for the game.

You say yourself this was mainly due to ppl like yourself exploiting, which kind of proves the gold drop rate was fine, you and others like you are responsible for any perceived over inflation in Ace.

 

[NightScare]

LOL you clearly didnt play for long

all these could earn you plenty of cash and chance of a item or gem
ST-7th boars
IWT's
Mining

Gold was about right on AceM2

If you could make 1-2m in PURE GOLD drops, in an hour from st 7th and IWT's, gold was totally ****ed up and no way near "About right".

And no i didn't play long, i think i played for about 6 hours in total, the fact that they didn't give a crap about the economy instantly put me off, as i PM'ed sam about this exploit and was met with "no-one will do and its not worth it" which either means 1) they don't care, or 2) gold was that easy to get the server wasn't really worth playing, and was nothing more than a really badly designed LR, and i'm not even a major fan of well designed LR's.

Not to mention the total lack of action on that EXP bug at the beginning which meant 70% of the server was massively over-leveled.

@ Jez

I spent the whole 5 years i played euro never having over 300k (mainly because i was about 14 and cudnt be arsed to do anything but town monkey),but it didn't make me quit it was all part of the "allure".

 

[Jacko]

If you could make 1-2m in PURE GOLD drops, in an hour from st 7th and IWT's, gold was totally ****ed up and no way near "About right".

And no i didn't play long, i think i played for about 6 hours in total, the fact that they didn't give a crap about the economy instantly put me off, as i PM'ed sam about this exploit and was met with "no-one will do and its not worth it" which either means 1) they don't care, or 2) gold was that easy to get the server wasn't really worth playing, and was nothing more than a really badly designed LR, and i'm not even a major fan of well designed LR's.

Not to mention the total lack of action on that EXP bug at the beginning which meant 70% of the server was massively over-leveled.

@ Jez

I spent the whole 5 years i played euro never having over 300k (mainly because i was about 14 and cudnt be arsed to do anything but town monkey),but it didn't make me quit it was all part of the "allure".

the reason he says you can make a M it's beacuse you'd loot every level 33 wizard robe and sell them town for 25k each
around 40 armors =1m
and as far as i know you'd be able to do the same thing in euro since 33 armors sold for same price in shop
when drop get upped gold gain also grows substantially and getting gold in mir2 wasn't that hard just hunt some stones and sell them and you've got yourself 1m

 

[Hoody]

I spent the whole 5 years i played euro never having over 300k (mainly because i was about 14 and cudnt be arsed to do anything but town monkey),but it didn't make me quit it was all part of the "allure".

but if you only stood in town why would you need gold anyway? you plonker

so you never went hunting or did anything that required you to have gold but your opinion is that the drop rates on gold are fine cause right now it still funds you to be able to stand in town and do feck all? :O

and sam dont do listening well

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Gold should be like Euro, anyone with over 500k should be considered rich

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool! i just read that!

sw bug expolit? ****ing hell you could make over 300k a hunt on BC on your own before they changed it after like 3 years!

and you said yourself you only stood in town so how would you know? you cant admit you did nothing but pose in town then say you have a valid point about stuff that requires you to have left town