Great Server, Not So Great PVP

[kevin87]

the Crit just dont make the game PVP friendly, i mean okay no body drops, but when a range class can run on your screen and crit you for 600+ and u have 800+ hp whats the point in pvp? theres no fun in PVP to want to fight, everyone is praying and hoping on a crit hit, who ever gets the first crit hit off wins.

 

[GeeDee]

More accurate - whoever can lay the most tempest wins.

Wiz dominate team fights at the moment. With their wind +8000, crit chance and luck, no other class can get close to them.

Wraith grip I hear you say? Becon? - haha good luck outleveling even a casual wiz player.

Even if a warr or sin manages to run through 20 tics of tempest damage, while at the same time been blown all over the place, and finally gets a hit off on a wiz, you would expect said wiz to flop instantly. But nah fam, they LOL at your 100 damage hit, repulse you and then you're back to square one.

 

[Hells]

kill me and my tempest gets deleted
why the u have assassins

pvp is excellent on server
all big guilds had a clash of power, win some, lose some.

anyway stop talking **** and get leveling if you die don`t be.....

 

[GeeDee]

How would i kill you hells? Just out of curiosity?

If you let me get 2 blooms off on you, you're either lagging or have disconnected completely.

How do I get through your tempest? Dance on you? - then I can't pot for 25 seconds in a lot of the dungeons.

It is not because we lost, I said the exact same thing when we killed you in JP. I literally did 4 hits on your members in a fight that lasted 20min +.

EDIT++

Also, if i even managed to Dance on you, get bloom, auto hit, bloom off on you, (NEVER gonna happen), then I am in the middle of your group and would be dead soon after. You would get res'd by a tao, and I would be stuck in the middle of you all so unable to get a res.

Would be interesting to try some 1v1's out, as i know sins are not made for mass pvp (especially on here since our one useful spell got nerfed to oblivion). There is a reason wraith grip lasted so long.

 

[Jamie]

How about suggesting some solutions?

Get a discussion focusing on the best way to improve the PvP and it'll probably have far a better results than only stating the issues.

 

[graphite]

Entitled players moaning about Wizard again urgh..

Crit should not be a part of pvp. Tempest should stay as its a skill and you limit or remove tempest and it loses its indentity as a Wizard. Much like limiting Warriors with beckon to 1 beckon a minute.

 

[<SOSO>]

Atm @ mass fights, whoever has more wizzies win.
Mass fights = tempest spam
It's not fun, it's boring and unenjoyable imo.

If u think "Yes, but u have bekon and dance and fa" than explain to me how are u able to kill wizzies who spam tempest from last line?
Say im higher lvl thn any wizard ( which wont be the case giving the lvling speed they have), I use bekon to get one @ me and all he needs to do is geo back. Thn im stuck with 25 seconds of no pot. Same goes for sins, if they dance over , they're aready dead regardless if they manage to kill 1 of them (who will be immediately res by the taos) or not. It's like GeeDee said.

Tempest spam ruins the fights imo and takes no skill doing it.

 

[Jicaa]

Jamie could make it so skills that cause an item usage delay doesn't occur if the target it's used on is another player?

 

[Jamie]

Jamie could make it so skills that cause an item usage delay doesn't occur if the target it's used on is another player?

I will be talking to Shane shortly I am going to Suggesst that the spells go on this item Cooldown or the spells are disabled if a Boss is on screen.

 

[graphite]

I have played warrior and assassin on other servers and never had a problem against Wizards. I would use shoulder dash to get up close to Wizards and shoulder dash to get away. With Sin I would sneak up in cloak.

Jamie, please don't accomodate the bad players who can't pvp...

 

[DarkSacred]

How about make Tempest and Fire Wall have the same "no pot" cool down as everyone else's spells

 

[graphite]

Are you stupid? Wizards have the lowest HO compared to other classes...

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Are you stupid? Wizards have the lowest HO compared to other classes...

HP*

 

[Hells]

tbh all of u are under level noobs
u should see WW sins or warriors get me ****ed up in seconds ...
wizz die if tempest disappear
if u limit wizzes tempetst its like disabling the class lol ))
i should fireball u to death with full wind element ?lol )))

if u want to nerf wizzes just make it so they are not element based or some **** and make them have to use all spells to fight or some thing

its hard stuff man ))

 

[LightBringer]

My only slight issue with wizzies and tempest is the constant displacement you get, it makes it hard to actually chase down someone.
I don't know the chance to displace when it hits, but perhaps reduce the chance of displacement on players?

 

[GeeDee]

How about suggesting some solutions?

Get a discussion focusing on the best way to improve the PvP and it'll probably have far a better results than only stating the issues.

Hi Jamie,

The only problem with suggesting fixes it we get flamed so hard.

To make sins any use in mass pvp (or 1v1 for that matter) our Wraith skill would need to be buffed back to what it was. It should work on higher levels but maybe last a shorter duration if they are higher.

EG.
Lower levels - 5 seconds
Same level - 3 seconds
Higher level - 2 seconds

Every class can level faster than us, so it is impossible to stay higher than people who even play 1/2 the time that I do.


Or improve our damage output. Yes at level 30-40 we could smash any wiz / tao / warr in 2 or 3 hits, but now it is IMPOSSIBLE to kill somebody unless they are completely trash or massively out numbered by our group, allowing us to go in without been focused.

Warriors - we would need to get off about 3/4 blooms. By the time we do this, we are dead.
Wizards - we would need to get off at least 2 blooms, by the time we hit one, they have repulsed us, geo'd away or simply just ran out of our hit range.
Taos - I dont think even with 4 blooms we could kill a tao if they had CL. If we get close to a 52 tao with pet and explode its good night anyway.

FEAR said it best to me earlier, currently we are Glass cannons without a cannon. If we do manage to get close to another player without dying, we hit them and they can just walk away and start smashing us up from a distance again.

I would love to 1v1 Exodus just to see who wins in a toe to toe using 0 pots. You would expect the sin to win, but I doubt it.



I currently dont know any sin that is enjoying pvp, but let the flame begin, from all other classes, who know we suck, and are happy to leave it be.

 

[graphite]

Hi Jamie,

The only problem with suggesting fixes it we get flamed so hard.

To make sins any use in mass pvp (or 1v1 for that matter) our Wraith skill would need to be buffed back to what it was. It should work on higher levels but maybe last a shorter duration if they are higher.

EG.
Lower levels - 5 seconds
Same level - 3 seconds
Higher level - 2 seconds

Every class can level faster than us, so it is impossible to stay higher than people who even play 1/2 the time that I do.


Or improve our damage output. Yes at level 30-40 we could smash any wiz / tao / warr in 2 or 3 hits, but now it is IMPOSSIBLE to kill somebody unless they are completely trash or massively out numbered by our group, allowing us to go in without been focused.

Warriors - we would need to get off about 3/4 blooms. By the time we do this, we are dead.
Wizards - we would need to get off at least 2 blooms, by the time we hit one, they have repulsed us, geo'd away or simply just ran out of our hit range.
Taos - I dont think even with 4 blooms we could kill a tao if they had CL. If we get close to a 52 tao with pet and explode its good night anyway.

FEAR said it best to me earlier, currently we are Glass cannons without a cannon. If we do manage to get close to another player without dying, we hit them and they can just walk away and start smashing us up from a distance again.

I would love to 1v1 Exodus just to see who wins in a toe to toe using 0 pots. You would expect the sin to win, but I doubt it.



I currently dont know any sin that is enjoying pvp, but let the flame begin, from all other classes, who know we suck, and are happy to leave it be.

If you are being repulsed by a Wizard you are lower level than them so damn right that Wizard should be able to if you aren't higher than them. That is the whole purpose of leveling right?

 

[Jicaa]

There isn't many real sins left now, I rolled a Wizard myself once I saw how ridiculously strong they are and happy I did before I fully committed to Sin.

Can Abyss be used on higher enemy players or just monsters? Could always make it work on players if it currently doesn't?

 

[Sedge]

GeeDee talking like he's hard done by. There is currently 7 wizzes that are higher level than you. Must be real tough for you.

 

[Exwizz]

all the sins and warriors in my guild currently enjoying there class, not one moan.

try lvling higher than people it actually helps.

not to mention KingTony playing sin walks all over your guild.

 

[irene]

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Make SIN great Again.... haha