Guild WarzzZZzz!!...

[flintxx007]

Is anyone else getting sick and tired of how easy it is to War another guild, just because..?

I joined a guild for the guild hunts and the quicker and fun way to lvl. This is being ruined due to a certain guild going to War everytime they see another guild group going to level in a certain area that gives alot of exp. It seems that said guild is trying to domiate the server by stopping other guilds lvling.

Because of this said guild our guild has had many people now leave the guild and the game. The people that left the guild thought it was the Guild name for the reason of the war so they left and joined another less know guild. Turns out they get Warred on aswell by said guild.

Now one of the reasons why this guild wars other guilds is because its too easy to just pay a small amount of gold so their members who think Mir3 is all about the PK, dont go brown, yellow, red. Any other Mir server would consider this as "grief" play and would be addressed. Jamie seems to think this is fine. Hes got more important things to do such as boting and gold sellers. Really?

Well im sorry to tell you Jamie but if this Guild War system, and "grief" play is not addressed this server will be a dead Parrot by the end of the year. People have had enough of it. Dont get me wrong this is a great server and we love what your doing. It just seems to have attracted all the scumbags from other servers that think PKing, Guild War just because... is Mir3. PvP is a feature of Mir3 and shouldnt be used to "grief" play just because your a higher lvl. Something needs to be done.

Signed: A concerned Citizen.

 

[Hells]

hope u not talk about THC mate, we just 50 ppl and only 20-30 active
SD is 100 players in guild + allies asians + rest of server

so pls if u cry about THC you silly ^_^


SD 24/7 wars our allies to make them back off, is it not natural we war back ?

 

[BeerNMoney]

hope u not talk about THC mate, we just 50 ppl and only 20-30 active
SD is 100 players in guild + allies asians + rest of server

so pls if u cry about THC you silly ^_^


SD 24/7 wars our allies to make them back off, is it not natural we war back ?

The only reason you war the lesser known guilds is because lets be honest you've no chance against SD, I ain't in either guild and have never had a problem.

 

[CremeEgg82]

Let's not skirt around the real issue, Banyo Island, the guild/alliance that controls it can dominate the levelling. Boosting their ranks and having overall more people at higher levels.

If BI was never adjusted as much as it was, people would be more spread out, you wouldn't get a single point of conflict all the time and you wouldn't get so much warring of any guild that even looks like they want to set off in that direction.

 

[Hells]

kk remove banyo if u all hate it but i see every1 love it and lvling there lol

what i would like to see is 50% extra XP for all new players until level 40+
who ever starts server now needs a boost tbh to keep up with all us nerds...

 

[CremeEgg82]

kk remove banyo if u all hate it but i see every1 love it and lvling there lol

what i would like to see is 50% extra XP for all new players until level 40+
who ever starts server now needs a boost tbh to keep up with all us nerds...

I don't hate it, in fact I'm sure I'd enjoy a good group hunt there. It is just quite out of sync with the rest of the areas so it is being heavily contested.

 

[Skyline]

Guild wars have always been a problem on mir. It's why I'm still guildless so i can hunt in (kind of) peace.

 

[ipwnu]

New server same mistakes.... for noobs banyo is like 20x faster than pt. only a matter of time till groups start getting wiped from there every time

 

[Mythra]

Short version: Like it or not, PK will happen even if starting a war is harder because people will continue to kill each other even if there's no war.

The war system remains unchanged and it wasn't easier in any other server, people just didn't pk as much as here and relationships between guilds weren't so volatile.

We (SD) war THC because... we're like Tom & Jerry duh. We also war NewOrder and Husaria for obvious reasons... we already had some big fights with Husaria before they decided to ally with THC but that was it, we didn't take it personal until they decided to throw away all false pretenses and go against us at war, poking their noses where they should not have. If you're from Husaria or NewOrder I can't help but tell you that you guys earned it big time, I am a very peaceful player but people from those guilds kept attacking me time and time again so I kill any of you on sight (war or not and I'm far from being the only one) except those who I know are peaceful players.

 

[NewUserName]

We (SD) war THC because... we're like Tom & Jerry duh. .

I like this lol!

 

[Sorry]

Short version: Like it or not, PK will happen even if starting a war is harder because people will continue to kill each other even if there's no war.

The war system remains unchanged and it wasn't easier in any other server, people just didn't pk as much as here and relationships between guilds weren't so volatile.

We (SD) war THC because... we're like Tom & Jerry duh. We also war NewOrder and Husaria for obvious reasons... we already had some big fights with Husaria before they decided to ally with THC but that was it, we didn't take it personal until they decided to throw away all false pretenses and go against us at war, poking their noses where they should not have. If you're from Husaria or NewOrder I can't help but tell you that you guys earned it big time, I am a very peaceful player but people from those guilds kept attacking me time and time again so I kill any of you on sight (war or not and I'm far from being the only one) except those who I know are peaceful players.

Sorry who are you in-game again? Reading your post makes me think you take things to personal, if 1 player from 1 guild is bad or a d*** it does not mean all other people in that guild are the same, you say NewOrder earned it big time, it's a game, they allied for sabuck and now you go mad, but SD had allies aswel, so i don't see what's bad in trying to make even numbers? Anyway i don't really care about the fact that SD warr's us, i mostly stay on self defence and hit only if i get hited, and if i lose a fight or die i don't really care because it's Mir and it's how things should go, oh and there are no body drops, so i don't lose anything and i don't care like people do on forums or on global in-game

 

[Mythra]

What do you mean personal? most of the time I'm just leveling there peacefully then some enemy guild shows up trying to kill me, ofc from then on I'll be on guard and be the one to attack first to make sure I don't lose the advantage.

As for New Order and Husaria, I don't care who they ally or if they help their allies to take sabuk from us, that's fine, it's part of the game but they took it too far (at least in my case) and kept attacking everywhere just for the heck of it so they have no reason to complain about the constant wars.

 

[Sorry]

What do you mean personal? most of the time I'm just leveling there peacefully then some enemy guild shows up trying to kill me, ofc from then on I'll be on guard and be the one to attack first to make sure I don't lose the advantage.

As for New Order and Husaria, I don't care who they ally or if they help their allies to take sabuk from us, that's fine, it's part of the game but they took it too far (at least in my case) and kept attacking everywhere just for the heck of it so they have no reason to complain about the constant wars.

You failed to reply to most of the things i said / asked , anyway nobody complained, at least from what i know. I'm not gonna try to make you see some things or make you understand certian things when it's clearly you don't want to see them / understand them. People PK you, you're on your guard and your guild just warrs everybody to make it easier for you to be on your guard . Talking to someone from your guild ( not gonna say who he was ) he told me a different story why they keep Warr'ing NewOrder, at first i was thinking the guy is just like every other mir player ... a total d*** but after having a chat with him for a few minutes i realised he is actualy a really nice guy . He knows who he is ( if he ever logs on forums ) so props to him anyway i'm out of here GL geting your guild hated maybe you guys become the next THC ( badguys ) on the server, who knows ?

 

[UnluckyXIII]

This is War, it keeps Mir interesting, win/lose it doesn’t matter to me, I just like that Mir offers this option as most modern MMO’s go the carebear route and PvP can only be conducted in specific maps, by opting into PvP or at arranged battles, sure it might be disruptive to levelling and your general day-2-day in game but for the most part I don’t tend to find there is much conflict in the majority of places (never had issues in Goru, Frost Dungeon, Holy Palace, Lair or Hyunmoon Temple), the only places that seem to have active PvP are the Frost Maps and Banyo Island.

Most of the Sins who hunt in Goru respect that it’s a levelling area and the Guild Vs. Guild stuff is left at the door, with general cave shout banter and people having a laugh and enjoying the game.

Personally I don’t think it needs to change but I respect your opinion and understand the frustration PK can cause after you’ve just worked your way down through a dungeon to a sub floor or an enemy guild wipes your guild hunt,

 

[Hells]

nvm tbh

 

[Sorry]

This is War, it keeps Mir interesting, win/lose it doesn’t matter to me, I just like that Mir offers this option as most modern MMO’s go the carebear route and PvP can only be conducted in specific maps, by opting into PvP or at arranged battles, sure it might be disruptive to levelling and your general day-2-day in game but for the most part I don’t tend to find there is much conflict in the majority of places (never had issues in Goru, Frost Dungeon, Holy Palace, Lair or Hyunmoon Temple), the only places that seem to have active PvP are the Frost Maps and Banyo Island.

Most of the Sins who hunt in Goru respect that it’s a levelling area and the Guild Vs. Guild stuff is left at the door, with general cave shout banter and people having a laugh and enjoying the game.

Personally I don’t think it needs to change but I respect your opinion and understand the frustration PK can cause after you’ve just worked your way down through a dungeon to a sub floor or an enemy guild wipes your guild hunt,

I think the only main issue here is the fact that it's to easy to make warr with other guilds, and there is no actual punishment for pk / pvp . Not sure about others but what got me into Mir 16 years ago or so was the fact that when you killed someone you had the chance of him droping something from his body to you ... The main reason i kept returning to the game was for pk / pvp because i loved when killing someone i had the chance to get one of his items if not one of his best items. I really really dislike the War function and mainly because you don't get punished for it, you wont get to be red you wont get lose luck on your weapon ( if you have any ) and i really really dislike the fact that body drops ar turned off.

Before people start to flame me and come cry for their pixels to be saved i will say why i think this is a big problem with the body drops . ( i know Jamie said he will not turn them on ) but i wanna say my point of view . On other servers there used to be same problem with 1 guild stronger then the other and 2-3 guilds competing for bosses etc.

Let's name 2 guilds X and Y and Y guild is the stronger one, while X has to strugle at times to keep up with Y . so X guild is making it's way to a boss, while on the way they meet a player from Y guild, that player either is left alone or killed, but he does say in guild chat X guild is going for the boss, so they all decide to go and get the boss from X guild, as they make their way the catch up with X guild and a mass pvp starts ( keep in mind the Y guild is the stronger one ) a few people here and there die and some drop things that X guild take from them, let's say by luck that X guild manage to beat them and the people that died are alredy on their way back. while on Y guild chat there is alot of rage and QQ because one or more droped valuable things and they don't wanna go back to fight because they get " depressed " or are mad because they lost things. This way X guild that is not as strong has a chance to actualy kill a boss and get better, also got some rewards on the way to killing a boss . I hope you understand my short story .

On here you just go somewhere, a stronger guild comes you fight them, if by any chance you are lucky and manage to kill them, they will just come back, if not you will just sit in sz and say " hey they have higher numbers they are stronger cba to go back it's not worth it " ... If people would have gone Red on here so they get sent to " jail " and not be able to hunt for X time untill yellow / white again there would be more fair fights as some would get left out of the fights, if people droped items from their body, items that they worked hard for again it would make more even fights because the person who loses something might not wanna go back either because he is to mad as he lost his item, or he fears of not losing anything else.

Anyway i'm sorry if i made any typos or my sentences were not really on spot, i did my best and i hope people can see what i wanted to say

 

[<SOSO>]

nvm tbh

I can hear u T_T

so sad...
so sad...

 

[UnluckyXIII]

I think the only main issue here is the fact that it's to easy to make warr with other guilds, and there is no actual punishment for pk / pvp...

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...Anyway i'm sorry if i made any typos or my sentences were not really on spot, i did my best and i hope people can see what i wanted to say

PvP balance in its current capacity would result in a mass exudes if body drops were to be introduced, so personally I stand behind Jamie’s decision to not implement this.

I do agree that going to war in its current state is too easy and I did suggest that this be reviewed with an increasing cost for every war declared on the same guild within a 24 hour period (increasing further and further with each successive war).

With no curse effect and little effect from going red there is no punishment for PK, so a change to the war system wouldn’t simply stop things and a reworking of the Brown/Yellow/Red & Curse system would be required.

 

[GeeDee]

Banyo history

Thc killed all players who entered. For the first week no other guild got a chance to hunt there, unless THC allowed it.

After the first week people noticed problems with banyo and came to the forums to ask for changes. Any new player that was not in THC could not compete with THC member leveling speed, this caused people in other guilds to lose motivation, including SD.

No changes happened.

The second week SD sent big groups and higher levels sacrificed solo exp to clear THC and any other guild that THC had allowed to hunt there (NewOrder, Husan or whatever).

Now usually SD will let anybody hunt there who did not try and stop them hunting there previously. They kill people from THC and their allies because of what happened in the first week.

 

[Sorry]

PvP balance in its current capacity would result in a mass exudes if body drops were to be introduced, so personally I stand behind Jamie’s decision to not implement this.

I do agree that going to war in its current state is too easy and I did suggest that this be reviewed with an increasing cost for every war declared on the same guild within a 24 hour period (increasing further and further with each successive war).

With no curse effect and little effect from going red there is no punishment for PK, so a change to the war system wouldn’t simply stop things and a reworking of the Brown/Yellow/Red & Curse system would be required.

In a way i do agree with body drops turned off but in a way i don't main reason i don't is because this is why MIR was always special, this is the way it always was with body drops turned on, and i do agree because i quit the game on so many severs due to body drops and that i droped to much... yet i always came back to the game :P but yea some change should be implemented to the war system as curently it's to easy to do it and there is 0 punishment for pk