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could u list any and all ideas u would like to see in a new server i can only think of so much ;)
 

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Boobs.

Or Mircraft. I loved that game more than, well, mir 3 itself. I always earnt enough shards to have a DGS pretty much all the time on USA mir3, lol.
 

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Boobs.

Or Mircraft. I loved that game more than, well, mir 3 itself. I always earnt enough shards to have a DGS pretty much all the time on USA mir3, lol.

never really played usa or euro so can u enplane what Mircraft is??
 

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You can't get mircraft working so don't bother trying :)

Design your server around PKing and an exp rate of around 16 and you won't go wrong.

Do it fast (at least enough for players to start), lot of bored players about at the moment including myself :)
 

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Mircraft, was like a RTS with 2 teams

You started off with 1 building. You could make up to like 3 buildings, using materials gained from wood or meat, you had timber piles and pigs, both just stood there and after 5 hits gave you an item. Then from the buildings you built mobs. Archers, norm mobs, sub bosses, tougher the mob longer the buildtime, then you sent your mobs to destroy the others base. Mobs/buildings had uber stats so people couldnt just run over and zerg buildings themselves.
 

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You can't get mircraft working so don't bother trying :)

Design your server around PKing and an exp rate of around 16 and you won't go wrong.

Do it fast (at least enough for players to start), lot of bored players about at the moment including myself :)

server will be x 32 with Rebirths eather removed or very costly and only 4 in game still unsure yet. Pk points have been set at 10 points a kill with body drops increased i will be running VE style Points which let u upgrade normal items in to ether Rage or Wall items. Eg. dragon ring is dc 0-5 RageDragonRing DC 3-6 velo +1 WallDragonRing DC 0-5 Ac 2-2 Amc 2-2 Weapons will be upgraded to max or base damage EG. JMace DC0-38 MaxJMace DC 0-45 BaseJmace DC 12-38 Armours will be upgraded to AC or AMC each armour will receive a +25% boost in the chosen stat(rounded up) Let me know what you think about thoses. Also so u all care if i just tweak low game(-44) caves a little in steed off making hole new places ??
 
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server will be x 32 with Rebirths eather removed or very costly and only 4 in game still unsure yet. Pk points have been set at 10 points a kill with body drops increased i will be running VE style Points which let u upgrade normal items in to ether Rage or Wall items. Eg. dragon ring is dc 0-5 RageDragonRing DC 3-6 velo +1 WallDragonRing DC 0-5 Ac 2-2 Amc 2-2 Weapons will be upgraded to max or base damage EG. JMace DC0-38 MaxJMace DC 0-45 BaseJmace DC 12-38 Armours will be upgraded to AC or AMC each armour will receive a +25% boost in the chosen stat(rounded up) Let me know what you think about thoses. Also so u all care if i just tweak low game(-44) caves a little in steed off making hole new places ??

Are you using Kings or 3.55?
 

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3.55 wont touch kings with a barge pole lol there's no balance with the files. sorry about wall of txt enter wont work :(
 

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3.55 wont touch kings with a barge pole lol there's no balance with the files. sorry about wall of txt enter wont work :(

Taken from my previous post:

There are so many 'new' items in other databases, it always surprises me when servers don't bother implementing them. A bit of effort can improve the look of a server drastically.

Class kits is a MUST especially on high rates, otherwise there is no class distinction and you end up with taos doing melee etc.

Please don't use Pro/Para/Rev, they ruin PvP.

Important class skill information for balanced PvP (My opinion):

- Example of equivalent class stats: DC 5-20, MC 2-12, SC 8-25
- GTE increased to discourage running endlessly around tao pets
- Tempest should be limited to level 2-3 (Tempest spam ruins PvP)
- Explosion or MShower should be increased to make up for Tempest
- Bladestorm limited to level 5
- DestructiveSurge increased because of the 3.55 hit delays
- GeoManipulation should have a small delay
- MagicShield limited to level 3-5

All items shouldn't be 'rare'....so they can drop during PvP.

Think up ways of encouraging PvP (If interested I can PM you ideas for this)
 

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Taken from my previous post:

There are so many 'new' items in other databases, it always surprises me when servers don't bother implementing them. A bit of effort can improve the look of a server drastically.

Class kits is a MUST especially on high rates, otherwise there is no class distinction and you end up with taos doing melee etc.

Please don't use Pro/Para/Rev, they ruin PvP.

Important class skill information for balanced PvP (My opinion):

- Example of equivalent class stats: DC 5-20, MC 2-12, SC 8-25
- GTE increased to discourage running endlessly around tao pets
- Tempest should be limited to level 2-3 (Tempest spam ruins PvP)
- Explosion or MShower should be increased to make up for Tempest
- Bladestorm limited to level 5
- DestructiveSurge increased because of the 3.55 hit delays
- GeoManipulation should have a small delay
- MagicShield limited to level 3-5

All items shouldn't be 'rare'....so they can drop during PvP.

Think up ways of encouraging PvP (If interested I can PM you ideas for this)

ATM stats will be bassed around for ever 5 dc it will be 2 MC and 7 sc. Just been looking in DB and i think my item idea will take effect after all VE items have been used(level 40 ish) then i will use my idea, this way i can get the server up faster. paras and pros WILL be in game but only the hardest off bosses will drop no ZOMG OMG WT DROPED ME 10 PARAS. paras and pros be SR or nor repaired and unable to trade so they cant be used for wedding rings. to make up for not bing able to sell there will be a npc that u can trade para for pro and vise versa. again sorry for wall of txt
 

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ATM stats will be bassed around for ever 5 dc it will be 2 MC and 7 sc.

It's not such an issue with the 3.55 files due to how easy it is to increase/decrease skills for continual class balance, but having stats following the official pattern is a good basis anyway.

Just tweak the earlier caves to save time so players can get stuck in with the server. With an exp rate of 32 (NO rebirths) I would say it's acceptable to use original caves up to around level 55-60 (3 days hard playing?) but then new content will be required.

Ideally you would want a PK point system in place (add global player deaths) but I don't know how competent you are with scripting in order to implement something like this.

Whats a realistic ETA for this server?
 

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Joe what makes you even think your going to be allowed to advertise a server through lomcn, your reputation is just as bad as Richards.
 

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Joe what makes you even think your going to be allowed to advertise a server through lomcn, your reputation is just as bad as Richards.
the only servers i have been involved with are 2 of toms and 1 of andys all were more or less 2 + years ago i have grown up since then. Most people hear about servers from friends now as some lomcn admins go overkill and people just post **** all day :). I think i can produce just what the players are looking for right now. i can cover hosting cost of my own back so there will be no donations like £10 for 20 levels or a para or any of that ****. Fact is rich's server aint coming up any time soon no 1 likes the King files and i believe along with ur self and a select few other no one else is able to make a decent server
 

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Most people hear about servers from friends now as some lomcn admins go overkill and people just post **** all day :)

I play for fun, not to be abused. I hosted believe it or not for fun. I enjoyed learning to write NPC's make Items, Monsters. The constant arguments drained the fun out of it.

This is why server owners stop hosting, people need to grow up.

Yes I'm sure it gets tiresome if the hosts themselves are at the centre of the 'abuse' but with regards to "Rogue", all of the 'abuse' was related to the players themselves. Hosts have become too soft and need to see the upside of this 'abuse'.

The banter is healthy and has an accumlative effect:

Increased rivalry leads to more time spent in-game to 'best' someone.
Increased rivalry leads to more chance of donation to 'best' someone.
Increased rivalry leads to support, asking friends to play to 'best' someone.

All in all proving to be beneficial to a host.

I think pointing out this upside is important and may even benefit the mir community with regards to new servers rather than hinder it, and thus I thought it's worth risking being banned over (however petty that ban would be).

Joe what makes you even think your going to be allowed to advertise a server through lomcn, your reputation is just as bad as Richards.

Considering Azura was given another chance to advertise his server recently, I don't see why JoeDunn shouldn't be given the same privilege.

Whats a realistic ETA for this server?
 

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ETA : well atm i have every thing up to level 50 pretty much done just every things needs testing. mulling over putting it up for tests later tonight once i sort my router out not 100% sure and i wont rush it
 

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ETA : well atm i have every thing up to level 50 pretty much done just every things needs testing. mulling over putting it up for tests later tonight once i sort my router out not 100% sure and i wont rush it

One of the main flaws of hosts is communication.

Update lomcn continuously if you can, however 'useless' that information may appear :)

Better to just set a beta test time that you can easily achieve, for instance if you're close to doing everything for up to 2 days worth of playing (level 50), then set a definite beta testing time for tomorrow rather than tonight.
 

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Yes I'm sure it gets tiresome if the hosts themselves are at the centre of the 'abuse' but with regards to "Rogue", all of the 'abuse' was related to the players themselves. Hosts have become too soft and need to see the upside of this 'abuse'.

The banter is healthy and has an accumlative effect:

Increased rivalry leads to more time spent in-game to 'best' someone.
Increased rivalry leads to more chance of donation to 'best' someone.
Increased rivalry leads to support, asking friends to play to 'best' someone.

All in all proving to be beneficial to a host.

I think pointing out this upside is important and may even benefit the mir community with regards to new servers rather than hinder it, and thus I thought it's worth risking being banned over (however petty that ban would be).



Considering Azura was given another chance to advertise his server recently, I don't see why JoeDunn shouldn't be given the same privilege.

Rivalry im all for but the abuse players give is not good, even if its play to play it still come back to hosts.

Joe has recently been IP banned for being a pleb, I wasnt 'given' a chance I have had couple server is development (none offering donations so people don't get pissy and trying to say I con people), the last one wasnt even live nor was it advertised as live, I was still working on it until the grief people gave so I just thought why should I spend the spare time I have doing something for ungreatful idiots.

I have been releasing and developing files on these forums for years, only till recent with the likes of you and couple other members the community have gone way down hill and they/you have no respect for anyone.
 

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I have been releasing and developing files on these forums for years, only till recent with the likes of you and couple other members the community have gone way down hill and they/you have no respect for anyone.

I don't seem to remember offending you.

I believe my quote was something along the lines of "Azura has done a lot for the mir community but he's rubbish at hosting".

History has proven you're not great at hosting so this part of my comment is hardly unreasonable and the first part I acknowledge that you've done a lot for this community.

But yeah, thanks for branding me as ruining the Mir community :thumbdown:
 

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no matter what comes of this server, im willing to try it out. i know joedunn irl, usually a man to his word, he has grown up alot over the past couple of year, and i think deserves another chance to get a mir3 server up and running has there is lack of them around atm.

the servers lomcn approved on here are either to high rate or to far gone to either bother trying to play them.

he seems to have a few decent ideas and i think its been proven that he knows what he is doing so 1 more chance might be worth giving.

however if he does mess it up this time, 1st of all i will slap him when i see him, coz makes me look bad for what i am saying, then ban him for posting another server on here lol

in all, good luck, if not allowed to advertise on here, keep me posted and i will giv it ago non the less!