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terriblen

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Yea I do see what you mean but as said the soft cap was a hint they chose to ignore it and keep right on so now they get rewarded.
The ones that will quietly just keep on levelling because that's what they like to do wont really mind.
Its the rest of the bought chars levelled by any means possible that will be shouting at the team.
 

evilwomann

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The top 5 players

bullpit
evilwoman2
apolina
varaka
flamefeild

not 1 of these chars is biked, has payed for lvling and are all the original player...
 

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Is there no exp owed from level 43?
I thought this level had changed as well?
Its now 50m, but was it not 70/80m prior?
 

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Just to throw another point of view in here
The soft cap was put in place to stop players levelling too fast because we all know there are biked chars, levelling services, afk methods and other ways and means of getting ahead of everyone else including the types that "just level" for hours and hours and hours.
All the people that kept on levelling were tryin to get around the server intentions and the host team ideas.
Now there will be the small group(5%)? with access to content that most of the server cannot even see which is exactly what they were tryin to prevent happening.
The 44+ players are being rewarded for doing something they were clearly discouraged from doing.
I suggest that hellcave is locked until most of the server(say 75% of average use count over 10 days) is level 45 and if anyone bothered to think about it that should have been the criteria for opening it in the first place.

The soft cap was put in to stop Aldor.
 

knives

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well the statement about ew2 is false cause joe and nathan play it :)
 

flamefield

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Finally the problem has been solved.
Thanks HB

By the way, does Redeyeskull put in drop list, and which boss drops? I haven't seen anyone sell it and few of us looking for it.
 

Guccci

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Finally the problem has been solved.
Thanks HB

By the way, does Redeyeskull put in drop list, and which boss drops? I haven't seen anyone sell it and few of us looking for it.


I had one from Oma King about 4 months ago.
 

The NightAngel

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BH can you post the tsbles before and now the tables after so that we can quality check your work?
The fact it took a few days from implementation, 2 exp jumps and any exp gathered during those two days will in my eyes have lead to some mistakes.

the initial thought (and you confirmed just an example) was just a redistribution of exp up to 50 maintaining the same total exp, but everyone jumped forward and one past 50.

So yes please can we have tables before and after.

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BH can you post the tsbles before and now the tables after so that we can quality check your work?
The fact it took a few days from implementation, 2 exp jumps and any exp gathered during those two days will in my eyes have lead to some mistakes.

the initial thought (and you confirmed just an example) was just a redistribution of exp up to 50 maintaining the same total exp, but everyone jumped forward and one past 50.

So yes please can we have tables before and after.

Thanks

That thought was changed as players would of still needed the same ammont of exp to level ie level to 50 would still be super hard.
The exp needed be level was lowered greatly hance the jump of some players that had gained the exp, players that where level 45 before the adjustments.

But you are free to check if you wish

Old exp

Level43=50000000
Level44=160000000
Level45=240000000
Level46=320000000
Level47=400000000
Level48=500000000

New exp
I will post this later I do not have access to it on the bus
I am about 80% sure it is the above numbers halved apart from level 43

edit
yep just checked and it is halfed

New exp (live on server)

Level43=50000000
Level44=80000000
Level45=120000000
Level46=160000000
Level47=200000000
Level48=250000000

BH
 
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Varaka

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BH for president!

Life stuff has changed so I cant play as much as I like but now I can wear the robe. I don't have to grind exp as much and just enjoy pvp and bossing with the guild.

I'm happy with the change, cheers.
 

The NightAngel

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Thanks for this BH.
Could i get lvl 49 req exp too for new stats?

PS this is not a task to try and catch you out
you did say that you did this when you were tired and needed others to confirm what they thought.
I also cant imagine many people have done the maths so wont know eitherway if they have too little, bang on or too much. also if some have had too much exp they are unlikley to report it.

To use this. Look at what your level and closest ten% was in grid 1. then compare the total exp field into grid 2 and you will see where you should have landed.
for example highlighted in yellow if you were 44 and 50% (total 130mil) you would then have landed 100% of 44 so level 45.

Providing my calculations are correct of course.

Sorry mass, edit. excel was too many characters so here it is in picture format.

exptable.png
 
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Thanks for this BH.
Could i get lvl 49 req exp too for new stats?

PS this is not a task to try and catch you out
you did say that you did this when you were tired and needed others to confirm what they thought.
I also cant imagine many people have done the maths so wont know eitherway if they have too little, bang on or too much. also if some have had too much exp they are unlikley to report it.

To use this. Look at what your level and closest ten% was in grid 1. then compare the total exp field into grid 2 and you will see where you should have landed.
for example highlighted in yellow if you were 44 and 50% (total 130mil) you would then have landed 100% of 44 so level 45.

Providing my calculations are correct of course.

Sorry mass, edit. excel was too many characters so here it is in picture format.

View attachment 15065

You are way way over complicating the whole thing.

Levels 43 and 44 are not needed as the sever itself adjusted the exp for does players so any players over level 44 and 80million exp would of auto adjusted. Level 43 was not touched so nothing there would change.

Players who where level 45 before the adjustments to the exp table where owed exp as the way these files work exp resets to 0 for each level. The server does not store total exp gain per player only exp gained per level. This is the reason for the exp being lost.

Ie if a player was level 45 and 200 million exp the server would adjust for that level making them 46 and 80 million exp but due to level 45 also being adjusted they lost 80 million exp (160-80)

The % of exp they where on does not matter as the server did the maths for all that, it is due to the adjusts to the exp needed per level that caused the exp lose.

Example a player does 44-45 before the exp table adjustments so the did 160 million exp. They leveled and reset back to 0 exp.
The table is then adjusted to 80 million exp needed for level 44-45.
The player that has just levels is missing/owed 80 million exp

I hope that makes sense

BH
 

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You are way way over complicating the whole thing.

Levels 43 and 44 are not needed as the sever itself adjusted the exp for does players so any players over level 44 and 80million exp would of auto adjusted. Level 43 was not touched so nothing there would change.

Players who where level 45 before the adjustments to the exp table where owed exp as the way these files work exp resets to 0 for each level. The server does not store total exp gain per player only exp gained per level. This is the reason for the exp being lost.

Ie if a player was level 45 and 200 million exp the server would adjust for that level making them 46 and 80 million exp but due to level 45 also being adjusted they lost 80 million exp (160-80)

The % of exp they where on does not matter as the server did the maths for all that, it is due to the adjusts to the exp needed per level that caused the exp lose.

Example a player does 44-45 before the exp table adjustments so the did 160 million exp. They leveled and reset back to 0 exp.
The table is then adjusted to 80 million exp needed for level 44-45.
The player that has just levels is missing/owed 80 million exp

I hope that makes sense

BH

It does make sense, but you are overcomplicating it, not me.
from a players perspectrive trying to figure out their own level only.

they dont have to add up x million per level they done to reach total vs level.
they just have to look what their level and % was. match with total exp and tadah done..

not everyone trusts the server to automatically get things ringt. so the overall exp is important not just the exp missed per level.

IMO.

thanks BH
 
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It does make sense, but you are overcomplicating it, not me.
regardless of what the server stores, instead of people working out what exp they are owed for each level they have done they can just use the table above to see exactly where they should now be from where they were originaly.

the total exp is just a calculation of each level, whether the server totals this or not is irrelevant towards the workings out.

you would prefer do.
40mill + 60mill +80miil =
i would prefer do toal vs should be..
its a simpler math.

hopfully people can check on here and see if they are in the right level and % since the change.

Thanks for the info BH.

We both do it differently but end up with the same answer.

I can see where you are coming from but if it was to be done your way I would have to adjust every player over level 45 one by one.
The way I have done it they just log on, claim their lost exp and that is it, job done

BH
 

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We both do it differently but end up with the same answer.

I can see where you are coming from but if it was to be done your way I would have to adjust every player over level 45 one by one.
The way I have done it they just log on, claim their lost exp and that is it, job done

BH

Oh absolutely, from your end your way is much much easier to assign the exp/levels

From a players view checking only their level, the table will be the quickest easiest current available way to make sure they have landed in the right place.

as you said same outcome -
hopefully.

Thanks again for the replies BH, appreciate your time.