Hunt Gold Farmers - Possible solution?

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DarkSacred

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I know this has come up a couple of times, and that some things are in palace to help reduce it (pets not gaining hunt gold for kills for example)

But looking forward what will be put in place to help reduce hunt gold farming?

Just for example I caught someone today in Lost Paradise trying to use F-Wall to cash in on free hunt gold, the guy wasn't able to do so due to a bug but was clearly trying to do it. I've seen multiple people trying to do this in other starting maps.

So what is the solution to prevent people mass farming hunt gold AFK?


Initially I thought policing it would be enough, but let's be fair Jamie is one person and trying to police people abusing the system would just monopolise his time.


I propose the following change to the way in which Hunt Gold is gained.


Currently you gain 1 hunt gold per monster kill per minute capping at 30 hunt gold per 30 minutes.

My suggestion would be to change it, instead you can only gain hunt gold if you meet the following criteria or a criteria of similar construct.

IF Character Level > Monster level -5 = Hunt gold gained is halved
IF Character Level > Monster level -10 = No hunt gold can be gained
IF Character Level <= Monster level = Hunt gold gained at normal rate

This would instantly stop the AFK farming of monster gold from just outside of towns safe zones. Some minor tweaks may need to be implemented to the levels of creatures to bring them down so that they can't be abused (just for instance lets say Zombies are level 25, they may need reducing to level 20 in order to prevent AFK farming)




Thoughts and opinions on something like this? Would this prevent AFK farming?
 

Annddyy

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So you would get no hunt gold cashing in fleas at level 50? **** idea.
 

Jamie

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I've been watching it, I have a better idea on how I will implement it, I will mention it to Shane when we have our discussions
 

DarkSacred

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So you would get no hunt gold cashing in fleas at level 50? **** idea.

Pretty much, no other server has ever given you free Game Gold / Cash Shop Gold just for playing, unfortunately it seems people are not happy with this generosity and must abuse it. Only solution is to combat the ways in which Hunt Gold is gained preventing people from doing so.

I've been watching it, I have a better idea on how I will implement it, I will mention it to Shane when we have our discussions

Good stuff, just saw your idea on Discord and you're right it would prevent it instantly while not preventing real players from still collecting hunt gold regardless of monster level.
 

WelshSteel

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So you would get no hunt gold cashing in fleas at level 50? **** idea.

Any player lvl 45+ farming gold in Fleas is stupid, lazy and taking spawns away from players under 45 who need it more!

The only time I was in Flea cave was to try and complete quest, I'm 48 and comfortable.
 

Lionsm!ght

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Any player lvl 45+ farming gold in Fleas is stupid, lazy and taking spawns away from players under 45 who need it more!

The only time I was in Flea cave was to try and complete quest, I'm 48 and comfortable.

Oh please advise where a 45+ should cash hunt when they run out if gold.

Given the change to sub rs I often find myself burning cash on rts to fund 0 subs so it's actually better to head ants/fleas where mobs are than looking for a sub that's not up
 

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Please tell me this secret place for 45+s to make gold please, Them LifePills don't come for free boii.. For real though stupid ****ing comment see plenty of 45+s farming in there, they just don't hang around long just enough to get their hunt gold and leave.
 

DarkSacred

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It’s alright apparently my idea is absolutely bollox as I was swiftly torn asunder on Discord, Jamie stepped in and has already confirmed his solution to this.

Hunt Gold will become a physical drop with a pick up range of 1 to 1 so you have to physically move over it and pick it up. No more AFK gold farming.
 

UnluckyXIII

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It’s alright apparently my idea is absolutely bollox as I was swiftly torn asunder on Discord, Jamie stepped in and has already confirmed his solution to this.

Hunt Gold will become a physical drop with a pick up range of 1 to 1 so you have to physically move over it and pick it up. No more AFK gold farming.

Gonna see some QQing now lol!
 

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Why does it even bother you so much? they gain now more hunt gold than you would being out of sz, if you're that triggered by it just kill them? or do you just like to moan for the sake of it? like the thread about mean words in global :((

Would love to know your ign tho..
 

holo

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Maybe make it a daily thing? Cap it at 300 per day, reasonably normal players aren't going to be playing much more than 5 hours a day. Those who do are already at a huge advantage over those who play less, so don't really need any extra help anyway. Removes entire reason for people to afk it (who are probably the people just trying to keep up with those playing all hours of the day!)
 

DarkSacred

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Why does it even bother you so much? they gain now more hunt gold than you would being out of sz, if you're that triggered by it just kill them? or do you just like to moan for the sake of it? like the thread about mean words in global :((

Would love to know your ign tho..

/Sacred as it has been since 2001 :)

I’m a special snowflake ❄️ And it bothers me because for the first time in a private sever we’re being given free Game Gold and someone is going to ruin that for the rest of us. Why should someone totally and outright abuse Jamie’s generosity?
 

Mythra

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Or we could force-teleport people who have been standing in the same spot (outside safezone obviously) for 30min to town? because making gold hunt a drop currency makes it a chore which we'll hate on the long run.

P.S: No, it doesn't afect mining because you get a bag full of ores in 20 min.
 

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got another idea.gain 5 hunt gold every 1% exp gained for your level.so if your 46 like me right now, 90m exp total for my level. >>> 900k exp required to gain 5 hunt gold.
 

Mythra

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got another idea.gain 5 hunt gold every 1% exp gained for your level.so if your 46 like me right now, 90m exp total for my level. >>> 900k exp required to gain 5 hunt gold.
Bad idea, you're forcing people to play constantly. Let's say... we're mining and coming back every 20-30 to spend the gold hunt stack but we can't do that without going to leveling maps...

Wake up people, hunt gold IS NOT a chore, don't make it overcomplicated and unfun mechanic, this is a game and we're supposed to enjoy it.
 

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I have no stake here, as i don't play, so.

Unless Hunt Gold//GG has some form of economical value, (I'm assuming it doesn't as that would be P2W) why is it an issue?
Am i missing some important point here? If you can maintain your buffs with relatively low playtime, then why does it matter at all if someone else does too, be it afk or not?
 

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I said this in game... just give out Bans ... first time 24 hour ban, second time 3 days ban, third time 1 week ban and so on ... ( also remove all the hunting gold aquired / buffs (not sure if removing buffs is posible?) ) ... this way maybe they will stop doing it
 

Mythra

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I said this in game... just give out Bans ... first time 24 hour ban, second time 3 days ban, third time 1 week ban and so on ... ( also remove all the hunting gold aquired / buffs (not sure if removing buffs is posible?) ) ... this way maybe they will stop doing it
Too lenient, first ban should be no less than a month.
 

daneo1989

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Why not add something similar to Astonia III, if you go AFK for say 10-15minuets you grayout neither player or pets can atk or use items (pots or scrolls).

Once you return you get a AFK buff which doesn't allow the player to use RandomTeleport scrolls for a set period hopefully this will deter people using macros and wedged keys.

Only problem is how you going to define AFK mode, no cursor movement? No character movement?

Anyone trying to beat certain systems should have there character banned.
 

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got another idea.gain 5 hunt gold every 1% exp gained for your level.so if your 46 like me right now, 90m exp total for my level. >>> 900k exp required to gain 5 hunt gold.
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You, sir are a retard.