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You definately wouldn't like a server I would operate. 5exp is 5% at level one. Just like european MIR2. If I did run a server, it would be normal experience in the beginning, I'd shave off a bit in the upper levels though, since taking three weeks for a level would be kind of stupid, and a waste of bandwidth.

What exactly would the point be of leveling from 1-10 in 5 minutes? What did you accomplish?

hmm since wen was there powerfall sets at lvl 1-10? the reason about 75% (estimate) of servers make it fastish lvl to 40 then it gets harder is cus u get all the good items 40-50 (mostly) hence why bon was complaining about the low lvl thing. ur not guna go in guild chat " YES I GOT TO LVL 3 COPPER RINGS WOOOOOOOT" if u get me.

p.s i never thort i wud stick up for bon in my life time :|
 

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ThaOne said:
hmm since wen was there powerfall sets at lvl 1-10? the reason about 75% (estimate) of servers make it fastish lvl to 40 then it gets harder is cus u get all the good items 40-50 (mostly) hence why bon was complaining about the low lvl thing. ur not guna go in guild chat " YES I GOT TO LVL 3 COPPER RINGS WOOOOOOOT" if u get me.

p.s i never thort i wud stick up for bon in my life time :|

I'll bite.

I'm going to make an example, see if you can following:

You are level 5. You have DC2-8. The Oma has DC 6-6.
You are level 50. You have DC20-80. The FreakOfNature monster has DC60-60.

Where is the difference? Other then seeing an extra 0 on your name, and different armour with some random set of items.. nothing.

Now, You're level 18 with a DC0-6 CopperRing. You have a BronzeAxe with DC0-18 and a PowerRing you got in ZumaTemple while hunting with your group of friends.

Or, You're level 48 with DC5-28 Godly****edRing. You have BloatedStatsWand with DC10-50 and HolyPurpleArmour(M) with purple wings.

Where is the rareness in that? They took someone five minutes to put into a database, and you just being lucky enough for the server to drop it.. 1/100 or something stupid.

Which would you be more proud of. Some noname high DC ring or a CopperRing that is DC0-6 (+5!)..?

Imagine owning some level 24 guy at lv 18? You would be quite.. Powerful.
 

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Umm, UniTY, totally off-topic, but would it be possible to make the added stats thing like Mir3? I know Mir2 makes the thing Blue but Mir3 shows what stats are added and how much. Would help when seeing if items are added, for new players and old players alike. Just wondering if it 's possible. I think it is.

Umm, *makes up something on-topic*, I played RZ for a bit, got to level 26 on a Tao and 28 on a Warrior, or the other way around, no, that way. Server was fun, but now I think too much stuff has been added and I've lost track of it all, but still a great server none the less.
 

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UniTY said:
I'll bite.

I'm going to make an example, see if you can following:

You are level 5. You have DC2-8. The Oma has DC 6-6.
You are level 50. You have DC20-80. The FreakOfNature monster has DC60-60.

Where is the difference? Other then seeing an extra 0 on your name, and different armour with some random set of items.. nothing.

Now, You're level 18 with a DC0-6 CopperRing. You have a BronzeAxe with DC0-18 and a PowerRing you got in ZumaTemple while hunting with your group of friends.

Or, You're level 48 with DC5-28 Godly****edRing. You have BloatedStatsWand with DC10-50 and HolyPurpleArmour(M) with purple wings.

Where is the rareness in that? They took someone five minutes to put into a database, and you just being lucky enough for the server to drop it.. 1/100 or something stupid.

Which would you be more proud of. Some noname high DC ring or a CopperRing that is DC0-6 (+5!)..?

Imagine owning some level 24 guy at lv 18? You would be quite.. Powerful.

well to put it plainly i suck at owning any one due to my crap comp, wel it depends rele since if my items made my DC gd enuf if i didnt think i cud beat the lvl 24 i wouldent fite him anyway, even if u had a +5 copper ring!! i think having a ring with the same DC would do just fine for me, hmm even with rare items like TeleRings on Euro serv it took them prob about 1 min to put in yet u can sell that single ring for about £300+ on ebay which is a fukin lot of money. so i dno rele if u av copper ring +5 DC n u lost it u wud prob b pissed off cus its slightly rare but still u wud hav the same DC ring any way. hmm i think ur statistics at the top are wrong since u get added DC at every 5 lvls and with the added DC items i recon it wud b more than that.
 

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UniTY said:
I'll bite.

I'm going to make an example, see if you can following:

You are level 5. You have DC2-8. The Oma has DC 6-6.
You are level 50. You have DC20-80. The FreakOfNature monster has DC60-60.

Where is the difference? Other then seeing an extra 0 on your name, and different armour with some random set of items.. nothing.

Now, You're level 18 with a DC0-6 CopperRing. You have a BronzeAxe with DC0-18 and a PowerRing you got in ZumaTemple while hunting with your group of friends.

Or, You're level 48 with DC5-28 Godly****edRing. You have BloatedStatsWand with DC10-50 and HolyPurpleArmour(M) with purple wings.

Where is the rareness in that? They took someone five minutes to put into a database, and you just being lucky enough for the server to drop it.. 1/100 or something stupid.

Which would you be more proud of. Some noname high DC ring or a CopperRing that is DC0-6 (+5!)..?

Imagine owning some level 24 guy at lv 18? You would be quite.. Powerful.

THANK GOD!!! i love you, now you see the stupid high stat uber lvl dc 100 rings and all the ****tyness.
 

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Shard said:
Umm, UniTY, totally off-topic, but would it be possible to make the added stats thing like Mir3? I know Mir2 makes the thing Blue but Mir3 shows what stats are added and how much. Would help when seeing if items are added, for new players and old players alike. Just wondering if it 's possible. I think it is.

Umm, *makes up something on-topic*, I played RZ for a bit, got to level 26 on a Tao and 28 on a Warrior, or the other way around, no, that way. Server was fun, but now I think too much stuff has been added and I've lost track of it all, but still a great server none the less.

It will be blue, past that I don't think it would be really suitable. Maybe something can be formulated that won't look like crap. Not sure how I like this, but maybe...:

WeaponName W.10
DC10-16(+1) SC0-3(+3)
Luck+1 Necessary Level 25

What does EI show it like?
 

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ThaOne said:
well to put it plainly i suck at owning any one due to my crap comp, wel it depends rele since if my items made my DC gd enuf if i didnt think i cud beat the lvl 24 i wouldent fite him anyway, even if u had a +5 copper ring!! i think having a ring with the same DC would do just fine for me, hmm even with rare items like TeleRings on Euro serv it took them prob about 1 min to put in yet u can sell that single ring for about £300+ on ebay which is a fukin lot of money. so i dno rele if u av copper ring +5 DC n u lost it u wud prob b pissed off cus its slightly rare but still u wud hav the same DC ring any way. hmm i think ur statistics at the top are wrong since u get added DC at every 5 lvls and with the added DC items i recon it wud b more than that.

I'm talking about a DC0-6 CopperRing, useful to you at 18, funny at level 28. Side note, you don't drop items on your player during PvP.
 

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That's exactly how it shows it UniTY :) I could find a screenie on Mir3Europe forums if needed. Also has this thread turned into a nice little argument about high stat servers versus low stat ones? There should be a sticky dedicated to this I swear lol
 

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UniTY said:
I'll bite.

I'm going to make an example, see if you can following:

You are level 5. You have DC2-8. The Oma has DC 6-6.
You are level 50. You have DC20-80. The FreakOfNature monster has DC60-60.

Where is the difference? Other then seeing an extra 0 on your name, and different armour with some random set of items.. nothing.

Now, You're level 18 with a DC0-6 CopperRing. You have a BronzeAxe with DC0-18 and a PowerRing you got in ZumaTemple while hunting with your group of friends.

Or, You're level 48 with DC5-28 Godly****edRing. You have BloatedStatsWand with DC10-50 and HolyPurpleArmour(M) with purple wings.

Where is the rareness in that? They took someone five minutes to put into a database, and you just being lucky enough for the server to drop it.. 1/100 or something stupid.

Which would you be more proud of. Some noname high DC ring or a CopperRing that is DC0-6 (+5!)..?

Imagine owning some level 24 guy at lv 18? You would be quite.. Powerful.
difference is at lvl5 u have no skills and 5 acc meanin it takes bout 6swings to hit a mob, and u get killed in 1-2hits off most mobs.
lvl50 u have alot more hp and u dont feel like such a noob, and u feel like uve accoplished more by lvlin up 50 times rather than lvlin 5.

also u syain about some1 puttin in some stupid item into the database but tbh, least they have used there imagination and given it a new name, different stats, something NEW.
unlike u whos just copyin euro mir....

whats so good about a copy? nothing.
thats why i dont like ragezone, as its just a copy of euro, with a few extra items added at like lvl45 odd which takes a month to get ne way.

this why imo, servers like insomnia, alphaomega, completly rebuilt databases, r ALOT better than servers like ragezone.

for example, u log on ragezone, its like euro, so u know u have to go hunt deers till bout lvl15, then move onto low lvl cave some time around there, then u go zt, get items, u know j mace is lvl30 etc etc...

u log onto alphaomega, ur in a new town, u dont know ur way around yet, u have different start kit, a different start level, different lvlin places. as u get higher, u dunno where the best place to lvl is, so u have the opotunity to explore the new maps, and as u lvl u find out there r better items etc.
its jsut more interesting, not the plain boring old same copy of euro with new items added at higher lvl.

unity, gimme 1 example why some1 should play ur server aposed to the real thing? the real thing is gonna be better than the copy imo....
 

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Bon said:
difference is at lvl5 u have no skills and 5 acc meanin it takes bout 6swings to hit a mob, and u get killed in 1-2hits off most mobs.
lvl50 u have alot more hp and u dont feel like such a noob, and u feel like uve accoplished more by lvlin up 50 times rather than lvlin 5.

also u syain about some1 puttin in some stupid item into the database but tbh, least they have used there imagination and given it a new name, different stats, something NEW.
unlike u whos just copyin euro mir....

whats so good about a copy? nothing.
thats why i dont like ragezone, as its just a copy of euro, with a few extra items added at like lvl45 odd which takes a month to get ne way.

this why imo, servers like insomnia, alphaomega, completly rebuilt databases, r ALOT better than servers like ragezone.

for example, u log on ragezone, its like euro, so u know u have to go hunt deers till bout lvl15, then move onto low lvl cave some time around there, then u go zt, get items, u know j mace is lvl30 etc etc...

u log onto alphaomega, ur in a new town, u dont know ur way around yet, u have different start kit, a different start level, different lvlin places. as u get higher, u dunno where the best place to lvl is, so u have the opotunity to explore the new maps, and as u lvl u find out there r better items etc.
its jsut more interesting, not the plain boring old same copy of euro with new items added at higher lvl.

unity, gimme 1 example why some1 should play ur server aposed to the real thing? the real thing is gonna be better than the copy imo....

If you think u know what people want why not make your own server, until then :) your full of hobits.



PS.. heres screens from ragezones replica of euromir to decide if its a replica..

http://photobucket.com/albums/d79/beckyrz/ pass = ragezone
 

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If you think u know what people want why not make your own server, until then :) your full of hobits.



PS.. heres screens from ragezones replica of euromir to decide if its a replica..

http://photobucket.com/albums/d79/beckyrz/ pass = ragezone
tbh dude, yes u have added all the new mir3 maps and mobs and that... like ice temple, fox map etc etc...

but it still starts the same as euro, u still start lvl1 (Same as euro) u still have to kill hens (same as euro) u still have the same low lvl cave wher eu lvl (oma cave) u still have the same items (Such as skele ring etc)

alphaomega didnt have this, it had a totaly new, started from sratch database, u didnt know wot items u would be gettin when u was 40, or where u would be huntin, u do on ragezone, as its basics r same as euro, with just added items / maps / items for higher lvls.

read wot i said jesus

ps i aint a server maker, im a player, so no i wont go make a server. but just cause im not, means im not allowed to give my opion as a player? u only dont like me cause i dont like ragezone... if i bum licked u and played ragezone 24/7 suckin up to u in pm "mental ur server is so ownage, i love ur server, here have £500 ur server is so great".
ur server is nothing special, GET OVER IT.
pss wots happenin? the user count dont seem to be goin over 30 at nites now ;) starlite + izar is tied with it alot now :O
 

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Well the exp is x5 in 3 hours so wait and see bon =) and seems your slightly jelous .. its ok its only natural, afterall, u do suck, and speaking of money, your the one spending all that cash on your char with >DMX< and fubu :P .. soo shh ;P
 

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MentaL said:
Well the exp is x5 in 3 hours so wait and see bon =) and seems your slightly jelous .. its ok its only natural, afterall, u do suck, and speaking of money, your the one spending all that cash on your char with >DMX< and fubu :P .. soo shh ;P

I dont ebay, nor play mir much now why bring me into it?

Id choose Project69 just because its the most reliable and even though Scorpian has had his bad time's he aint big headed as most people which in any right he could be being one of the longest server owners.

Also MentaL unlike you i work for a living i dont con people into using a bs forum and a average server mate.
 

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Well the exp is x5 in 3 hours so wait and see bon =) and seems your slightly jelous .. its ok its only natural, afterall, u do suck, and speaking of money, your the one spending all that cash on your char with >DMX< and fubu :P .. soo shh ;P
lol x5 exp event... another desperate event to get more players? bit like that event where loads of heaven and mir armours droped and ruined the game, and made alot of ppl leave?

seriously dude, get it into ur head, im not jealous of u, or ur server lol. ur servers not gr8 (imo) to others it may seem amazing, but ive been playin euro and priv servers for around 4years, and i can tell u that ur server is nothign special.

answer me this tho, wot would u rather play, a server thats same up until about lvl40, then u get new maps+mobs+items added for high lvls, with maybe a few tweaks made at low levels, but still same basics as euro... as i said kill a hen then go omacave etc... u know wot to do...

OR

would u prefer to play a totaly new server (alphaomega as example again) where u didnt know wot items was in the database, u didnt know where to hunt, or wot items / stats to expect... could explore and have fun.

wot sorta server would u rather play?
95% of players would wanan play the new, interesting mir, not the same boring old euro style mir with new **** added at high lvl.

and wot i do with my money has nothing to do with u, and for ur info, i make a very good profit off my deals ty ;)
oh and no need to go off topic and try to start insultin me cause im ownin u and showin u why ur server is so **** and basic.

kthxbye.
 

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Sure thing slap head. check ur pms

would u prefer to play a totaly new server (alphaomega as example again) where u didnt know wot items was in the database, u didnt know where to hunt, or wot items / stats to expect... could explore and have fun.

Given the age, uptime, and morals of these people , especially since they turned theyre forum into an ANTI me forum inc my address recruiting people to 'beat' me up, i couldnt care for alpha omegas crap tbh =)
 

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MentaL said:
Sure thing slap head. check ur pms



Given the age, uptime, and morals of these people , especially since they turned theyre forum into an ANTI me forum inc my address recruiting people to 'beat' me up, i couldnt care for alpha omegas crap tbh =)

Refering to me? wow i have a skin head congrats on the slap head insult.

Edit - i feel honoured to be on that bs site rz :D ty man ty.
 
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MentaL said:
Sure thing slap head. check ur pms



Given the age, uptime, and morals of these people , especially since they turned theyre forum into an ANTI me forum inc my address recruiting people to 'beat' me up, i couldnt care for alpha omegas crap tbh =)
it has nothing to do with alphaomega... it was just an example that its a new server, and different to the normal old mir which ur server is.

quite clear form ur answer that uve been owned and just realized how ****+ normal ur server really is
 

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lol x5 exp event... another desperate event to get more players? bit like that event where loads of heaven and mir armours droped and ruined the game, and made alot of ppl leave?

seriously dude, get it into ur head, im not jealous of u, or ur server lol. ur servers not gr8 (imo) to others it may seem amazing, but ive been playin euro and priv servers for around 4years, and i can tell u that ur server is nothign special.

answer me this tho, wot would u rather play, a server thats same up until about lvl40, then u get new maps+mobs+items added for high lvls, with maybe a few tweaks made at low levels, but still same basics as euro... as i said kill a hen then go omacave etc... u know wot to do...

OR

would u prefer to play a totaly new server (alphaomega as example again) where u didnt know wot items was in the database, u didnt know where to hunt, or wot items / stats to expect... could explore and have fun.

wot sorta server would u rather play?
95% of players would wanan play the new, interesting mir, not the same boring old euro style mir with new **** added at high lvl.

and wot i do with my money has nothing to do with u, and for ur info, i make a very good profit off my deals ty ;)
oh and no need to go off topic and try to start insultin me cause im ownin u and showin u why ur server is so **** and basic.

kthxbye.

Bull**** u aint played priv servers for 4 years.. try 1 or 2 , matt hooked u on servers about 1 year ago mayb 1 and half so dont chat ur **** 2 look good.. u wudnt even know wat GGmania is so **** off
 

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Bull**** u aint played priv servers for 4 years.. try 1 or 2 , matt hooked u on servers about 1 year ago mayb 1 and half so dont chat ur **** 2 look good.. u wudnt even know wat GGmania is so **** off
i never said ive been playin exactly 4years did i... i said about 4year.s..does it even matter? no u just look for ne excuse to flame me cause ur a troubled kid with no m8s.

weown was my 2nd priv server, that was about 3years ago....

GGmania is old mir forums, like lomcn.

how many ppl playin ur server btw? checked earlier had 0 users :eek:
all that abuse dont get u ne where noob ;)
 

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mhh why the hell isnt this topic locked?
it's just a war between servers it has nothing to do with the original question imho :p

btw just as a side note: i found rz server to be super high exp allready compared to the ORIGINAL euromir lvling :p (i know euromir is pretty much easy exp these days)

ps: i'm not gonna bother readin this topic from now on as i'm not interested in flame wars :p