is refining dead?
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- May 6, 2013
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Most people working on gems as they are quick cash/stats and you don't have to wait 2hours to know if it worked. Iv done a few refines not had much luck tho success rate seems low but that's a good thing can't be doing with dc 40+ axes and mc20+ staffs.
I just don't think anyones really tried it out that much, and BIO is not easy to get hold of as not many people mine in the Bichon Mines.
I'm currently mining for BIO though, had my MageStaff work, only +1 at moment though.
I'm currently mining for BIO though, had my MageStaff work, only +1 at moment though.
- May 2, 2013
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I refined my g-axe the day refine came in after reboot. Used 5 bio P15 and 2 dragon rings.. worked - DC+1.
then used the same 5 bio P15, 2 dragon rings and a claw necky... BREAKAGE .. damn it. Haven't tried since.
tried 3 separate times with alot more jewelery and more bio... still all 3 break first attempt i gave up... some people did it with alot less bio and items and gotten +6 ? whats going on?
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not to mention that mining is a fail lately gave up long ago
With gems/orbs you should only be able to get +7 stats, refine is +20 so in the long run refining first is always better then orbing (or gem if you want to risk it) to max stats possible.
lol, you can over kill on refining as well you know? to much bio/items just as bad as not enough.
I'm guessing with mining being the way it is that refining has dropped off. I have been doing some with little to no lucky, made a lot of +1 items but nothing worth selling, just put a dsword in for +2 so see in an hour if i'm lucky. It takes me about 30mins to fill a bag with ore and out of that i normally get a gold 12+ and 4 bio, given it takes like 10 bio per try of a good purity i normaly need to mine for two hours to get enough!
was just odd that the only person i normaly see in the refining place is ivordamn, was a busy place all the time on euro.
I'm guessing with mining being the way it is that refining has dropped off. I have been doing some with little to no lucky, made a lot of +1 items but nothing worth selling, just put a dsword in for +2 so see in an hour if i'm lucky. It takes me about 30mins to fill a bag with ore and out of that i normally get a gold 12+ and 4 bio, given it takes like 10 bio per try of a good purity i normaly need to mine for two hours to get enough!
was just odd that the only person i normaly see in the refining place is ivordamn, was a busy place all the time on euro.
Its probably more down to the fact that most people don't mine on private servers as items are easier to come by so not worth the time for the reward for the most part.
Havent tried mining on here but f you are getting 4 pieces of BIO every 30mins thats way better than euro/us mir.
Havent tried mining on here but f you are getting 4 pieces of BIO every 30mins thats way better than euro/us mir.
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No you can't, that's just an old myth from Euro mir.
Due to the random factor in the refining code, people get lost when they try to figure out how it works.
best i have got is +3 magestaff that was with 3x bio pur 10 and 1x dbell each refine, i broke that, and after a load more trys i carnt seem to get +1 again now., would have been cheeper to just buy 3 gems and have a better success rate.
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Not really you can make a +3 staff with shop items pretty easily with a 80%+ chance of working if you try out different recipes. Unless they have changed how refining works on this server then refining should always be cheaper and better if you invest in it than gems, haven't refined on this server yet though but cant see why they would change it.
- May 6, 2013
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I'd say try refining before you post if you think it's so easy to get +3....
I'm sure they have changed it on this server never had so much trouble before.
It's right that things have changed (if they have). Most peeps been playing so long everything's easier and so they get bored fast. Levelling easier, people are overpowered, I think slotted items were not a good idea. I know players like boasting about their stats and strutting round with high numbers but the point of rares being rare meant people on euro didn't have stupidly high stats until the end game with the exploits/hax or they had been playing for a couple of years. Few weeks old and already ppl have really high stats and except for EM killed everything on server dozens of times.
- May 6, 2013
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Don't know what this has to do with refining? But anyway if the server was like euro people wouldn't play. Not many people have the time to lvl/camp all day. I for one wouldn't bother as I'd never be able to keep up. Yes some people have high stat items this was mostly down to first few weeks of server. The fact you cannot spec repair items and hard torches don't last long at all means sooner or later these items will drop below a usable dura. And even if they don't it just sets me a target to beat. Soon there will be new content so stop moaning and get levelling. As can guarantee people will moan if that content is to hard as they have spent all there time in sz moaning and not bothered lvling.
Wild guess terriblen was meant to post that in Iver the gems or bosses to easy post.
apologies ivoradam for miss spelling your name! Tho its nice to see you posting here with input to.
My dsword failed last night for +2, has anyone had a refine that worked with the durability also going up? i have done a few magestaff refines with low purity bio for +1 that worked (10bits under 10 purity and 2 spell braces) but the durability went down but have yet to see a refine with it going up. Xiler the issue we are having is that it seems that refining here is completely different from what we know, all my old recipes and any i can find online so far have been a total failure I'm at the point now of systematically testing refines to get one that works (some of the time) but its really going to be a blind stab in the dark, a time consuming and costly stab in the dark at that.
apologies ivoradam for miss spelling your name! Tho its nice to see you posting here with input to.
My dsword failed last night for +2, has anyone had a refine that worked with the durability also going up? i have done a few magestaff refines with low purity bio for +1 that worked (10bits under 10 purity and 2 spell braces) but the durability went down but have yet to see a refine with it going up. Xiler the issue we are having is that it seems that refining here is completely different from what we know, all my old recipes and any i can find online so far have been a total failure I'm at the point now of systematically testing refines to get one that works (some of the time) but its really going to be a blind stab in the dark, a time consuming and costly stab in the dark at that.
- May 31, 2013
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The idea of mixing it up (and always having a small chance of it outright failing, say 5-10%) is a brilliant change, imo - People knowing they could make an mc+10 weapon with no real chance in it failing was outright stupid, they made crazy money and also made the top weapons look pathetic when comparing the stats.
However, BIO is too rare and too much of a pain to mine at a reasonable rate, considering very few people really want to refine and work out new recipies... If this was Euro, changing the recipies would of panned out, here there's not enough reason for people to put tonnes of time and effort in to mining and working for new receipies, when they can just gem a few times and get the same result.
However, BIO is too rare and too much of a pain to mine at a reasonable rate, considering very few people really want to refine and work out new recipies... If this was Euro, changing the recipies would of panned out, here there's not enough reason for people to put tonnes of time and effort in to mining and working for new receipies, when they can just gem a few times and get the same result.
I have no issue with the mix up, infact its nice to have to start again, tho as you mentioned its painfully slow getting BIO to even try to refine with. I went minning for gems and in the same amount of time it takes to collect enought ore for a refine and have some random "bits" i had collected enough ore to make 5 gems, thats even if two of them failed atlest 2.5mil a first level refine will only net me 1mil at most at cost me money to try.
i'm also having issues just getting a grip on refining my self here, so far i have a dsword recipe that is only 50/50 and cost me about 1mil to figure out ignoring the time to do it, this is the biggest issue for me as it stands BIO is to hard to get to even start working refining at any rate and far to costly and just not worth the effort. The only thing keeping me going is that money is easy to get and i enjoy the challange but i can't see it becoming a hugh money maker on here.
- May 8, 2013
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I have never understood recipes for refining and am not very lucky when it comes to gemming and orbing etc therefore I have never really refined as such. But I think that with gemming, orbing and especially slots now in MIR, people haven't really tried or have no need to try refining especially with the availability of extra stats using the above methods. Its a shame really because refining used to be an art.
thats just the way i see it though
thats just the way i see it though