iwts drops

[Babyhack]

BabyHack, I have been in IWT for several hours this morning and there is only one real one currently; others drop complete crap yet again (SkeletonRings/ConvexLens etc). Why would someone of the required level to kill IWT need such rubbish in a drop? There maybe plans to change to 5 / 5 (which again defeats the objective of it being fun etc) but your changing something that doesn't need to be fully changed - just tweaked.

Funny that as there are still 9 real ones in there, fake ones can not be added without rebooting the server.

As I have said the drops for IWT where adjusted and will stay the way they are until the next planed reboot which we hope will be this weekend.

What some others have said is right and just simply maths.
If there are 9 IWT's on a map and for this example lets say 4 of them always drop a beni.
That's 4 beni per 30mins or 8 an hour.
24 hours in a day, so that's 24 x 8 = 192 beni a day.

That's 1344 beni in a week hitting the server.
IMO that is madness.

BH

 

[Judges]

Funny that as there are still 9 real ones in there, fake ones can not be added without rebooting the server.

As I have said the drops for IWT where adjusted and will stay the way they are until the next planed reboot which we hope will be this weekend.

BH

Funny that...there was a reboot this morning. I killed three waves following it and all but one dropped just pots each time. Perhaps the changes were made and you didn't know a reboot had been done?

 

[Babyhack]

Funny that...there was a reboot this morning. I killed three waves following it and all but one dropped just pots each time. Perhaps the changes were made and you didn't know a reboot had been done?

That was not a planned reboot (the server bugged out and crashed) so the updated mongen file that is on my test server is not on the live server machine.

There are still 9 real ones on the map with adjusted drop files.

I ask you to look at this maths as to why they needed to be looked into and adjusted.

What some others have said is right and just simply maths.
If there are 9 IWT's on a map and for this example lets say 4 of them always drop a beni.
That's 4 beni per 30mins or 8 an hour.
24 hours in a day, so that's 24 x 8 = 192 beni a day.

That's 1344 beni in a week hitting the server.
IMO that is madness.

 

[Judges]

I agree 192 is madness which is why I agree they needed tweaking. Changing the mechanics of spawns is not, in my opinion, the best course of action. Reduce the drop rate is all that is required not restricting which can drop and which that cant.

 

[mooncloud]

it was pointless doing any other boss the way iwt was dropping. it needed a nerf to be inline with the rest.

gotta disagree with u ths tme bro made it fun for guild pvp

 

[joking]

 

[deano13]

That was not a planned reboot (the server bugged out and crashed) so the updated mongen file that is on my test server is not on the live server machine.

There are still 9 real ones on the map with adjusted drop files.

I ask you to look at this maths as to why they needed to be looked into and adjusted.

What some others have said is right and just simply maths.
If there are 9 IWT's on a map and for this example lets say 4 of them always drop a beni.
That's 4 beni per 30mins or 8 an hour.
24 hours in a day, so that's 24 x 8 = 192 beni a day.

That's 1344 beni in a week hitting the server.
IMO that is madness.

That's only if there's players killing then 24/7 around the clock, had 2 spawns of IWTS and not 1 bene drop.... So this equation is out the window.

 

[lancelot1]

That's only if there's players killing then 24/7 around the clock, had 2 spawns of IWTS and not 1 bene drop.... So this equation is out the window.

Because it was changed..

 

[Babyhack]

That's only if there's players killing then 24/7 around the clock, had 2 spawns of IWTS and not 1 bene drop.... So this equation is out the window.

When the new drops first went live, every IWT would drop either a Beni, Gem or Torch, so the maths is correct.
This was adjusted due to the fact there where 9 of them spawning in such a short period of time.

IWT is easy to get to and easy enough to kill.(its also bugged and does not attack at all sometimes) In no way should it be dropping everytime.
There are 44 other subs/bosses on the server.
Yesterday half of the players where in IWT room, everyone was farming them and not killing any of the other bosses.
This to me says something is strange.

As I have pointed out twice now, IWT is under review, everything will be looked at from respawn times to drops.

BH

 

[norman]

From your other post
"Just before players start moaning.
The drops are designed to drop gems at a semi good rate.

The reason for this is simple, item breakage and also I believe that if you have gone to the trouble to hunt and kill a boss you should at least get something, ie a beni, gem, sewing kit, special torch etc

BH"

So, you made them drop benes/gem or torch everytime like you said. You knew 9 spwaned every 30mins odd. And suddenly it's not what you wanted? If you didnt want this then why make it 1/1 of a random one of them.

It's either what you wanted or you have given in to moans.

 

[Babyhack]

From your other post
"Just before players start moaning.
The drops are designed to drop gems at a semi good rate.

The reason for this is simple, item breakage and also I believe that if you have gone to the trouble to hunt and kill a boss you should at least get something, ie a beni, gem, sewing kit, special torch etc

BH"

So, you made them drop benes/gem or torch everytime like you said. You knew 9 spwaned every 30mins odd. And suddenly it's not what you wanted? If you didnt want this then why make it 1/1 of a random one of them.

It's either what you wanted or you have given in to moans.

While doing all of the other drops, I forgot that IWT spawns so often, call it human error or tiredness.
The plan for drops is still the same as that quote just not 9 every 30 minutes in one room

BH

 

[lancelot1]

From your other post
"Just before players start moaning.
The drops are designed to drop gems at a semi good rate.

The reason for this is simple, item breakage and also I believe that if you have gone to the trouble to hunt and kill a boss you should at least get something, ie a beni, gem, sewing kit, special torch etc

BH"

So, you made them drop benes/gem or torch everytime like you said. You knew 9 spwaned every 30mins odd. And suddenly it's not what you wanted? If you didnt want this then why make it 1/1 of a random one of them.

It's either what you wanted or you have given in to moans.

Or he doesn't camp out all 9 every 30 minutes and didn't realize exactly how many items that equates to per day.

Did you forget to take your bitch pills today or what?

 

[norman]

BH ty for your reply.

Lance I didnt know you spoke on behalf of the team?
****

 

[lancelot1]

BH ty for your reply.

Lance I didnt know you spoke on behalf of the team?
****

I don't. Which is why I didn't speak on behalf of him, but instead offered a non-aggressive reason that would explain the change, which seems more reasonable to me than your hyper passive-aggressive "So what are you, schizoid or an asslicker, huh, huh? Explain your actions to me, I'm important, damn it!".

 

[Theundertoker]

+1

IWTS where fine after the reboot, if your worried about having 9 spawn, why not just leave the drops how they are and only have 4-5 spawn? All this bollox about them dropping benes every drop etc is just nonsense.

This

 

[The NightAngel]

They still drop the 30weaps, gems, dring ect. Nothing great but if you kill all 9 your likely to be coming out with atleast 500k. for a easy to get to easy to kill mid level sub id say thats reasonable and eill only get better when there are 5 decent drops instead of the 1/9 ish now.

 

[Doug]

They still drop the 30weaps, gems, dring ect. Nothing great but if you kill all 9 your likely to be coming out with atleast 500k. for a easy to get to easy to kill mid level sub id say thats reasonable and eill only get better when there are 5 decent drops instead of the 1/9 ish now.

You tried running thru ghoul room on a wiz? Lol not easy fella

 

[deano13]

They still drop the 30weaps, gems, dring ect. Nothing great but if you kill all 9 your likely to be coming out with atleast 500k. for a easy to get to easy to kill mid level sub id say thats reasonable and eill only get better when there are 5 decent drops instead of the 1/9 ish now.

We'll this is wrong becoz iv been in there now since about half 10 and had sweet **** all... Not even a bene

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Ninja nerf over night..

 

[The NightAngel]

We'll this is wrong becoz iv been in there now since about half 10 and had sweet **** all... Not even a bene

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Ninja nerf over night..

Ouch. That doesnt sound lucky at all.
We have come away with somesthing everytime. We always stop at iwt to clear them before going onto hog.

Hey doug, that room is hard work for everyone, handy if there are some wizzies lvlin at the time
Even so, grab 5 ants (easy and fast) dont bother lvin them they are just your Decoys. Get in close teleport pets onto you, wait a couple of secs RT then run thro while ants have all the agro.
Thats if your going solo n dont want to use mp to clear.

 

[deano13]

They have had a nerf, been farming them for most of the day all iv had is afew crappy items, not 1 bene or gem.