Jamie,You are too unfair

[Tango_GreatWall]

It's a tricky issue and hard to tell. Someone also offered to help me with a red horse, but I refused because I know it's hard to understand this kind of buddy friendship built across so many servers fighting together and so many years.

But I accepted pots support, Baidu sent me about 2250 life potions III (+110hp) when I had a hard time in Goru before gold drop was adjusted.

And I think Baidu sent at least 3000 life potions III( +110 hp) when Ace was so hard grinding at Hymoon for about half a month.

TGW had a high tax rate before and still maintain a 5% tax. If someone wanna to profit real money from gold farming, maybe leaving the guild is better?

A funny thing is that no one mentioned how hells managed to buy a red horse. Please don't put double standard on this issue, and that's all I wanna say.

If he's just giving gold to his friends and spending his own time mining the gold - what's the issue?

I see no mention that he was botting to gain the gold, or selling gold for real cash.

Seems like some people are butt hurt because he's giving his gold to friends who are getting richer than them. Same principle as character sharing but this looks to be allowed?

 

[daneo1989]

typical mir rivalry

 

[Cookie]

Was thinking same as this

If he's just giving gold to his friends and spending his own time mining the gold - what's the issue
I see no mention that he was botting to gain the gold, or selling gold for real cash.

Seems like some people are butt hurt because he's giving his gold to friends who are getting richer than them. Same principle as character sharing but this looks to be allowed?

 

[Lionsm!ght]

If he's just giving gold to his friends and spending his own time mining the gold - what's the issue?

I see no mention that he was botting to gain the gold, or selling gold for real cash.

Seems like some people are butt hurt because he's giving his gold to friends who are getting richer than them. Same principle as character sharing but this looks to be allowed?

There are several accounts that are clearly botting but have a "minder" watching over them. Given the links to several over 33ish chars, most likely one of these cases.

 

[Shane/Banshee]

You have your character still, you are able to make gold still in higher level caves. All you have done is run around flea and ants for greed of gold, this is not playing the game how it should be played, these caves are deigned for low levels to get a little boost or for when people are out of gold for pots. You have abused the game/caves and created so much hassle for jamie with reports on botting and gold selling that’s its effected the server updates,

its unfortunate but you are not the 1st to have punishments and won’t be the last.

level 51 wiz was banned today for afking hunt gold/gold farming.

Changes are being made next reboot to fleas and ants so you won’t miss the cave going forward and will need to hunt suitable caves for your level.

 

[Chalace]

You have your character still, you are able to make gold still in higher level caves. All you have done is run around flea and ants for greed of gold, this is not playing the game how it should be played, these caves are deigned for low levels to get a little boost or for when people are out of gold for pots. You have abused the game/caves and created so much hassle for jamie with reports on botting and gold selling that’s its effected the server updates,

its unfortunate but you are not the 1st to have punishments and won’t be the last.

level 51 wiz was banned today for afking hunt gold/gold farming.

Changes are being made next reboot to fleas and ants so you won’t miss the cave going forward and will need to hunt suitable caves for your level.

No offense but that's a ridiculous statement, and just screams far reaching justification

You made the caves... you can not say that he is 'abusing the game' for hunting in them.
He did not exploit, or use cheats, simply hunt in what is the place to make gold.

The fact that hunting there 'caused' other people to make reports again, not his fault... he was simply playing the game how he wanted, hunting in a cave.

If you did not want people to hunt there excessively YOU should have put checks in place, be it level caps or timers etc.

 

[Shane/Banshee]

No offense but that's a ridiculous statement, and just screams far reaching justification

You made the caves... you can not say that he is 'abusing the game' for hunting in them.
He did not exploit, or use cheats, simply hunt in what is the place to make gold.

The fact that hunting there 'caused' other people to make reports again, not his fault... he was simply playing the game how he wanted, hunting in a cave.

If you did not want people to hunt there excessively YOU should have put checks in place, be it level caps or timers etc.

the reports were correct it was suspicious behaviour basically looked Lilke a bot but was being monitored.

either way we are danmed if we do and dammed if we don’t. We spent many hours watching over many days weeks.

 

[DarkSacred]

@Jamie / Shane

Will nothing happen to those the gold was sent / traded to? Surely the gold should be stripped from them and things like 100m red horse removed? And that's from anyone involved regardless of guild, race, level, total GG contributed. If they've bought gold from one of these bots / farmers they deserve to have their ill gotten gains stripped.

 

[IceMan]

@Jamie / Shane

Will nothing happen to those the gold was sent / traded to? Surely the gold should be stripped from them and things like 100m red horse removed? And that's from anyone involved regardless of guild, race, level, total GG contributed. If they've bought gold from one of these bots / farmers they deserve to have their ill gotten gains stripped.

How do you prove it was bought?

 

[Shane/Banshee]

@Jamie / Shane

Will nothing happen to those the gold was sent / traded to? Surely the gold should be stripped from them and things like 100m red horse removed? And that's from anyone involved regardless of guild, race, level, total GG contributed. If they've bought gold from one of these bots / farmers they deserve to have their ill gotten gains stripped.

Gold gets spread way to far to fast. Going forward after this reboot it will be captured

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How do you prove it was bought?

It’s really hard to prove which is why so much wasted time is spent on this issue

 

[DarkSacred]

How do you prove it was bought?

Difference between dropping your home bois a cheeky 1m to go to Nandos and trading someone 100m so they can buy a horse. Bought or not if its from a suspicious character thats been caught gold farming / botting it should be stripped.

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Gold gets spread way to far to fast. Going forward after this reboot it will be captured

It’s really hard to prove which is why so much wasted time is spent on this issue

Thats a shame as means that the 1Bn + gold that was mined and traded will never be stripped from the economy. Providing those who have benefited further benefit (Red Horse) and those who havent still a long way to catch up while these players get the advantage to hunt better areas and become stronger and richer. However if its too difficult to chase we as players will just have to accept it.

 

[Far]

Difference between dropping your home bois a cheeky 1m to go to Nandos and trading someone 100m so they can buy a horse. Bought or not if its from a suspicious character thats been caught gold farming / botting it should be stripped.

Giving someone 1m for Nandos or trading someone 100m are both legitimate. If you're claiming one isn't allowed then all trading should be banned, and by connection a Taoist shouldn't be allowed to heal anyone - after all it's a free hp potion that's being given out.

 

[Triggy]

Hells bought a red horse, but he never saw him playing gold.Hells's weapons are upgraded by pizhe。Are you all pretending not to know?

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我怀疑你的智商！友谊不存在吗？Why can't I help my friends?

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hells's horse Where's it from?Who told me？

Hells was in ants a lot. I know that because he killed me and stole the sub off my warrior numerous times.

 

[Jamie]

Hells:

Gold: 160,678,093
Flee Husk: 17,153
Ant Egg: 10,531


Looks fine to me ?

 

[DarkSacred]

Giving someone 1m for Nandos or trading someone 100m are both legitimate. If you're claiming one isn't allowed then all trading should be banned, and by connection a Taoist shouldn't be allowed to heal anyone - after all it's a free hp potion that's being given out.

Not exactly true though is it, 100m gained through botting / gold farming techniques shouldn't be allowed. Like I said were talking over 1bn of gold here not just a little bit of pocket change.

 

[Tai]

a Taoist shouldn't be allowed to heal anyone - after all it's a free hp potion that's being given out.

 

[Soulspring88]

He was definitely botting / macroing he was in there 24/7 rt'd lightening aoe 3-4x didnt even kill the lure sometimes then rt'd again..also hit you're lure if you were killing and never replied or did anything different even if you abused him or hit him.

Also after he tted to town his spell rotation continued to fire off..lucky he isn't perma banned

 

[Tango_GreatWall]

Flea husk 200 per each, Ant egg 300 per each,100 slot offer 20% more. (200*17153+300*10531)*120% =7907880

Assuming a highest rate, 3000 gold drop per one flea husk or one ant egg (which we know normally 2000+ on the ground):

(17153+10531)*3000=83052000

In total: 90959880.

Without counting his potion cost, amour repair cost and lvling cost, this amount isn't enough to afford the red horse, don't even need to compare with his total gold 160,678,093.

Just some simple stats and facts, players in server is not fool coz no one see hells farm for his red horse and THC member also admitted in chat "Hells has friends"

Baidu will follow your instructions and accept GM's decision to stop farming in ant and fleas per requested.

No further discussion needed, and I just have to stand up and speak up. However, please be aware that TGW are willing to support the development of this server in a positive way. It was some guys in this server keep spamming and wasting your time because their behavior lead to their fall in PVP.
spamming tempest, SW mechanic, guild cap etc just to favor their own PVP . Then we lost decent players of WW, who were our enemies but we respect those fight without moaning or trash talking.

Request nerf SDC while other guild supported Taoist for grinding skill books and they don't have one Taoist get the book. Then we lost some Taoist players in this server.

 

[KillerMan]

Hells bought a red horse, but he never saw him playing gold.Hells's weapons are upgraded by pizhe。Are you all pretending not to know?

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我怀疑你的智商！友谊不存在吗？Why can't I help my friends?

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hells's horse Where's it from?Who told me？

My weapon is also upgraded by Pizhe... That means nothing dude.

Well done Jamie for taking actions. You should also do an investigation regarding all users who has a red horse and see how they've managed to get their income.

It's hard to catch botters, that's a fact but investigating users who has more than X amount of cash or red horses should make it easier in order to catch the remaining botters out there.

 

[Drakay]

Flea husk 200 per each, Ant egg 300 per each,100 slot offer 20% more. (200*17153+300*10531)*120% =7907880

Assuming a highest rate, 3000 gold drop per one flea husk or one ant egg (which we know normally 2000+ on the ground):

(17153+10531)*3000=83052000

In total: 90959880.

Without counting his potion cost, amour repair cost and lvling cost, this amount isn't enough to afford the red horse, don't even need to compare with his total gold 160,678,093.

Just some simple stats and facts, players in server is not fool coz no one see hells farm for his red horse and THC member also admitted in chat "Hells has friends"

Baidu will follow your instructions and accept GM's decision to stop farming in ant and fleas per requested.

No further discussion needed, and I just have to stand up and speak up. However, please be aware that TGW are willing to support the development of this server in a positive way. It was some guys in this server keep spamming and wasting your time because their behavior lead to their fall in PVP.
spamming tempest, SW mechanic, guild cap etc just to favor their own PVP . Then we lost decent players of WW, who were our enemies but we respect those fight without moaning or trash talking.

Request nerf SDC while other guild supported Taoist for grinding skill books and they don't have one Taoist get the book. Then we lost some Taoist players in this server.

That gold total doesn’t include item drops Hells has had over the time of the server that he would have sold for gold.