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Smidge

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Lol put some effort into lvling/ makeing kit instead of whining for a wipe. Only people who are whining are the lazy fks that cba, what difference would a wipe make to them lol. yes people could stack exp/power buff at one point, but it was hardly gamebreaking most didnt even know about it and it was resolved pretty fast. all my kit has been made from hunting bosses and its not too shabby, im lvl 45 even tho i havent lvled in about 2-3 weeks, i didnt even know about the power stacking/exp stacking until it was taken out. only thing gms need change asap is the cap on adding stats to items.

So let me get this right, the reason you dont want a wipe is because your that high of a level? If you havent leveled in that long, then surely if there was a wipe it wouldnt take you long to earn those levels back?
 

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So let me get this right, the reason you dont want a wipe is because your that high of a level? If you havent leveled in that long, then surely if there was a wipe it wouldnt take you long to earn those levels back?

wow most retarded post of the day, congrats.

what i was saying is if u play and put time into it you can get a kit/lvls. i lvld hard for 1st 2 weeks or so then been bossing ever since (u do slightly lvl when u boss too). meh i cba even replying any more.. do 1
 

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wow most retarded post of the day, congrats.

what i was saying is if u play and put time into it you can get a kit/lvls. i lvld hard for 1st 2 weeks or so then been bossing ever since (u do slightly lvl when u boss too). meh i cba even replying any more.. do 1

See thats exactly my point, you have no valid reason as to why a wipe wouldnt be a good idea. Yeah well done you nerded your level, but wouldnt you rather play a server with more people, bug free etc than be a high level with no players? Don't get too butt hurt about it bro..
 

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See thats exactly my point, you have no valid reason as to why a wipe wouldnt be a good idea. Yeah well done you nerded your level, but wouldnt you rather play a server with more people, bug free etc than be a high level with no players? Don't get too butt hurt about it bro..

I think we all know there isn't going to be a wipe, or we would of herd something by now, but I totally agree with what your saying, it's what's iv been trying to explain, most players understand, it's the ones that have used the exploits etc to gain the advantages that will cry no wipe.

Go go flame away.... ZzzzzzZZZzzz
 

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See thats exactly my point, you have no valid reason as to why a wipe wouldnt be a good idea. Yeah well done you nerded your level, but wouldnt you rather play a server with more people, bug free etc than be a high level with no players? Don't get too butt hurt about it bro..

You really think the server would have more people if they wiped? we already spoken about this in game and not one person has said they would return.
Also what is this exploit lol? I been playing for a while now and i can't think of a exploit the would need a wipe, if your refering to the exp stacking, it was like 1 night people abused it and i don't even think they play anymore.

Whine whine whine, your being pathetic, am guessing the people who want a wipe have not even made a account for this server yet or they are between level 1-20.
 

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See thats exactly my point, you have no valid reason as to why a wipe wouldnt be a good idea. Yeah well done you nerded your level, but wouldnt you rather play a server with more people, bug free etc than be a high level with no players? Don't get too butt hurt about it bro..

He might not have a good reason, or just does not have the time, will or patience to bother explaining him self to someone who isn't even on the server?

Tho i'll answer you, a wipe at this point would do NOTHING. The things people bitch about are mainly three things:

  1. Bug exploitation.
  2. Mining exploitation.
  3. High drop rates.

So lets address each of these in regards to a wipe shall we?
1.Bug exploitation.

The main bug that was/has been exploited was a way to stack an exp and damage buff, first done in bug cave and then again in mineral mine. Some players used this to level faster then other players and on the whole had no real impacted on the server because levelling is so god damn fast anyway. A wipe would just mean they would need to spend at most two weeks to get back to level 40.

2.Mining exploitation.

This was where at the beginning of the server they had two big issues left unaddressed. The first part being that you could mine afk in one spot and as long as your pickaxe had durability you could get ore, as such people would just mine afk for plat to spam make gems. The second part was the fact you could connect to the server with an unlimited amount of accounts which you can read more about and see the obvious implications in this thread. A wipe would remove some of the higher stated items made with these gems from game but as people level and find higher level items the current "super items" will be less then super.

3.High drop rates.

This is an issue but with a low population the drops rates needed to be increased and they have across the board for boss and random mob drops, even with a wipe this would not be changed just some people who did get lucky the first time round might not the second time round. This has been done from what i can see so that players like my self that don't boss hunt can still have a chance to get good gear. A wipe would not change a damn thing about this.

Now take into account that the team is working towards content for level 45+ that was not in the mir2 that we know and will (don't think for a second it won't) have new bugs and exploits and issues to come with it, if the team went ahead with a wipe now they would need to do it again and again to keep the server "fair". Tho who the hell would player of a fair server that's empty because the players came to the conclusion that a wipe would be happening every time new content was added to the game?

A wipe is completely unfeasible at this time as all it will do is kill the player base to remove minor and they are just that minor issues.

Also note that the team as mentioned by Baby Hack have no intention of a wipe.

Think that's all the points covered.
 

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If it wasn't known that the people who started the server early took advantage of things the team had overlooked and exploited bugs then no one would complain. Some things have been made more difficult in the last few weeks. Gemming is harder, getting plat is harder, you cant get buffs any more(I think) You cant camp the bosses as easily. You have to fight for them now. You cant rt some places or use horses on some maps now. So those who started later are at a big disadvantage. A wipe might not be the solution but the visible known unfairness isn't good. Handing out gems orbs exp and damage buffs to ppl who get to 38/40 from now on might level the field a bit but not sure that's a good idea either. Someone else said "its that they got away with it" without any kind of comment about it from the team apart from them taking the blame for not getting it right. I'd like players to tell the team not exploit their oversights.
 
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He might not have a good reason, or just does not have the time, will or patience to bother explaining him self to someone who isn't even on the server?

Tho i'll answer you, a wipe at this point would do NOTHING. The things people bitch about are mainly three things:

  1. Bug exploitation.
  2. Mining exploitation.
  3. High drop rates.

So lets address each of these in regards to a wipe shall we?
1.Bug exploitation.

The main bug that was/has been exploited was a way to stack an exp and damage buff, first done in bug cave and then again in mineral mine. Some players used this to level faster then other players and on the whole had no real impacted on the server because levelling is so god damn fast anyway. A wipe would just mean they would need to spend at most two weeks to get back to level 40.
2.Mining exploitation.

This was where at the beginning of the server they had two big issues left unaddressed. The first part being that you could mine afk in one spot and as long as your pickaxe had durability you could get ore, as such people would just mine afk for plat to spam make gems. The second part was the fact you could connect to the server with an unlimited amount of accounts which you can read more about and see the obvious implications in this thread. A wipe would remove some of the higher stated items made with these gems from game but as people level and find higher level items the current "super items" will be less then super.
3.High drop rates.

This is an issue but with a low population the drops rates needed to be increased and they have across the board for boss and random mob drops, even with a wipe this would not be changed just some people who did get lucky the first time round might not the second time round. This has been done from what i can see so that players like my self that don't boss hunt can still have a chance to get good gear. A wipe would not change a damn thing about this.

Now take into account that the team is working towards content for level 45+ that was not in the mir2 that we know and will (don't think for a second it won't) have new bugs and exploits and issues to come with it, if the team went ahead with a wipe now they would need to do it again and again to keep the server "fair". Tho who the hell would player of a fair server that's empty because the players came to the conclusion that a wipe would be happening every time new content was added to the game?

A wipe is completely unfeasible at this time as all it will do is kill the player base to remove minor and they are just that minor issues.

Also note that the team as mentioned by Baby Hack have no intention of a wipe.

Think that's all the points covered.

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He might not have a good reason, or just does not have the time, will or patience to bother explaining him self to someone who isn't even on the server?

Tho i'll answer you, a wipe at this point would do NOTHING. The things people bitch about are mainly three things:

  1. Bug exploitation.
  2. Mining exploitation.
  3. High drop rates.

So lets address each of these in regards to a wipe shall we?
1.Bug exploitation.

The main bug that was/has been exploited was a way to stack an exp and damage buff, first done in bug cave and then again in mineral mine. Some players used this to level faster then other players and on the whole had no real impacted on the server because levelling is so god damn fast anyway. A wipe would just mean they would need to spend at most two weeks to get back to level 40.
2.Mining exploitation.

This was where at the beginning of the server they had two big issues left unaddressed. The first part being that you could mine afk in one spot and as long as your pickaxe had durability you could get ore, as such people would just mine afk for plat to spam make gems. The second part was the fact you could connect to the server with an unlimited amount of accounts which you can read more about and see the obvious implications in this thread. A wipe would remove some of the higher stated items made with these gems from game but as people level and find higher level items the current "super items" will be less then super.
3.High drop rates.

This is an issue but with a low population the drops rates needed to be increased and they have across the board for boss and random mob drops, even with a wipe this would not be changed just some people who did get lucky the first time round might not the second time round. This has been done from what i can see so that players like my self that don't boss hunt can still have a chance to get good gear. A wipe would not change a damn thing about this.

Now take into account that the team is working towards content for level 45+ that was not in the mir2 that we know and will (don't think for a second it won't) have new bugs and exploits and issues to come with it, if the team went ahead with a wipe now they would need to do it again and again to keep the server "fair". Tho who the hell would player of a fair server that's empty because the players came to the conclusion that a wipe would be happening every time new content was added to the game?

A wipe is completely unfeasible at this time as all it will do is kill the player base to remove minor and they are just that minor issues.

Also note that the team as mentioned by Baby Hack have no intention of a wipe.

Think that's all the points covered.

right..... might as well lock this thread.







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If it wasn't known that the people who started the server early took advantage of things the team had overlooked and exploited bugs then no one would complain. Some things have been made more difficult in the last few weeks. Gemming is harder, getting plat is harder, you cant get buffs any more(I think) You cant camp the bosses as easily. You have to fight for them now. You cant rt some places or use horses on some maps now. So those who started later are at a big disadvantage. A wipe might not be the solution but the visible known unfairness isn't good. Handing out gems orbs exp and damage buffs to ppl who get to 38/40 from now on might level the field a bit but not sure that's a good idea either.

Gemming is harder, so they say peroanly i have not seen anything to say the chances have been changed but still even if it is harder now that means just that its harder not impossible, same comment for plat.

You no longer get the damage boost but you still get the exp gain from completeing the quests.

The comment about the horses and rt's is something that effects all people playing now so can't be counted as an advantage.

As for camping bosses and having to fight over them now.... common thats an advantage that will ALWAYS be there for the first people to be able to get to the level to kill a boss.

Handing out items when hitting 38/40 could work but won't as stated, a guild can power level a person to 40 in a few hours a day tops they would just farm gems this way.
 

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See thats exactly my point, you have no valid reason as to why a wipe wouldnt be a good idea. Yeah well done you nerded your level, but wouldnt you rather play a server with more people, bug free etc than be a high level with no players? Don't get too butt hurt about it bro..

2nd retarded post, ur on a roll..

theres many reasons that have been stated in previous posts why a wipe shouldnt happen ( it wont happen anyway) have a read. the only people that want a wipe are people that have just started... or dont even play, like urself...... geting to 45 is hardly nerding, again if u played you would know.... there have been no gamebreaking bugs so no need for a wipe, just so you and maybe a handful of others will be happy.. the only reasons people are giving for a wipe are people are higher lvl then them, and they have better kit, all of which are still obtainable now. you really think that it would have a better usercount if there was a wipe?.... and what u on about dont be too butt hurt god grow up kid.... be constructive or FO "Bro".


i dont know why this thread is even still open, just seems like a troll thread lol
 

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No need for a wipe.
Its easy to lvl
Exp buff exploiters got dealt with (at least mostly)
Drop rates at beginning were high yes, but only noob items were dropping.
Gems work less now, yes, but the items that have been gemmed when it was easy are all noob items, and soon will be out of date anyway.

Just my 2p
 

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As for the exp exploit, I made a wizard about 5/6 days ago and I'm level 44 almost cause I got leveled by a few people in BDD, join a guild and go level with them on hunts..

On euro, in the beginning anyway, you couldn't get levelled by higher levels, the exp cut was so great you did better leveling by yourself or grp with similar levels.

i concur this server is way too easy, never mind those exploits. And wiping wont cure anything because those who run the server obviously are no hardy gamers themselves or else don't believe others are. Simple as that. You can get to 40 simply buying all your gear in shops and for measly gold too. At least GN got it better by handing the gear out in quests.

this simply ain't nothing like euro. At least there those putting in long hours came up against the ceiling of there being no new content and the rest of ppl had some chance to come closer if not catch up, the euro stagnation was its virtue in that way, including that feeling of stability, of level field.

on euro early birds had it tough as the game got easier as years gone by (when maps came in and exp got boosted via those special places etc etc) whereas here it's the other way - things go from easy to harder, easy on early birds or exploiters.
 

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The thing is everyone is just assuming things have been changed, none of the staff have actually stated any changes.... Be nice to actually know
 

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No need for a wipe.
Its easy to lvl
Exp buff exploiters got dealt with (at least mostly)
Drop rates at beginning were high yes, but only noob items were dropping.
Gems work less now, yes, but the items that have been gemmed when it was easy are all noob items, and soon will be out of date anyway.

Just my 2p
Which exp buff exploiters got dealt with? How? When? The power buff exploiters? I must have missed that. So tell me why some people who exploited those TWO buffs are still ingame at the levels they got from exploiting. They didn't report it or mention it to the team. Just looking about says you are wrong about noob items being gemmed, you are visibly wrong about mining and plat chances. Wiping is always a harsh last resort but turning a blind eye to such behaviour(not reporting bugs/exploits) and having very obvious unfairness isn't good either.
 

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Oh god terriblen all ive seen over the last 2 weeks of reading this forum is you banging on about this exp and power buff and wanting every man and his dog to get punished. The major stacking of it was dealt with within 2 days of it being used by the vast majority. Someone in my guild was lvl 1 two days ago and is now just shy of lvl 44 with some help from other people. Its not hard to lvl, the buff wasnt a game changer. Find something new to moan about.
 

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I haven't read every post in this thread and in no way is this an official statement, it is just my thoughts on the subject.

1: Life span of the server:
Most of the community has played Mir for years now and we have all seen the same old "official content", the idea was the make this content available and achievable, for a couple of reasons 1: for those who have seen it 100 times over and are bored of it, and 2: for those who know of it but have never been arsed because it was to much of a mission.

In terms of leveling, 50 is the new 40 (literally), which means we don't even have an equivalent of an "official" level 40 yet.

We are a server that is still in development and we are constantly trying to improve the game play for our players.

2: Server wipe:
This is something I am strongly against, I personally feel that we have a server count of 200+ players that are returning on a daily basis and a wipe would potentially sabotage that, I also feel that we haven't hit any real game breakers/something we couldn't pull back from to warrant a wipe.

3: Bug exploitation:
The main/only bug in question would be the exp/damage buff? Fortunately the people who gained the most from this bug were also cheating and were banned. I also feel that we caught it in time... (awaits flame).

4: Easy Content:
This kind of falls into what I earlier mentioned about the current content, however I do feel that some boss's do need a bit of a boost and I will eventually get around to looking into them (EM/OKS/Yim's/FB).

5: Added stated items/Mining exploit:
So the "Mining exploit" which is no more of an exploit than it would be on any other server caused a number of gems to be flooded into the game?

I personally hate gems/orbs I think they are the worst thing to grace Mir since Mir3 and I do feel that the current added stats on items make releasing new items difficult, this is something I feel quite strongly about and would love to see some suggestions on how you think this could potentially be corrected (not to say that it is, but if I have a strong enough argument to take to the team then it can't hurt in trying).

Personally I think considering we have content from both Shanda and WeMade we have enough to provide for another 100 level's easy...

My thoughts.
Sam
 

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Samuel perhaps look into the % chance of gems working?

It seems like there is no reduction in chance of items breaking/failing after stats are added (May or may not be true but appears that way)
 

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I haven't read every post in this thread and in no way is this an official statement, it is just my thoughts on the subject.

1: Life span of the server:
Most of the community has played Mir for years now and we have all seen the same old "official content", the idea was the make this content available and achievable, for a couple of reasons 1: for those who have seen it 100 times over and are bored of it, and 2: for those who know of it but have never been arsed because it was to much of a mission.

In terms of leveling, 50 is the new 40 (literally), which means we don't even have an equivalent of an "official" level 40 yet.

We are a server that is still in development and we are constantly trying to improve the game play for our players.

2: Server wipe:
This is something I am strongly against, I personally feel that we have a server count of 200+ players that are returning on a daily basis and a wipe would potentially sabotage that, I also feel that we haven't hit any real game breakers/something we couldn't pull back from to warrant a wipe.

3: Bug exploitation:
The main/only bug in question would be the exp/damage buff? Fortunately the people who gained the most from this bug were also cheating and were banned. I also feel that we caught it in time... (awaits flame).

4: Easy Content:
This kind of falls into what I earlier mentioned about the current content, however I do feel that some boss's do need a bit of a boost and I will eventually get around to looking into them (EM/OKS/Yim's/FB).

5: Added stated items/Mining exploit:
So the "Mining exploit" which is no more of an exploit than it would be on any other server caused a number of gems to be flooded into the game?

I personally hate gems/orbs I think they are the worst thing to grace Mir since Mir3 and I do feel that the current added stats on items make releasing new items difficult, this is something I feel quite strongly about and would love to see some suggestions on how you think this could potentially be corrected (not to say that it is, but if I have a strong enough argument to take to the team then it can't hurt in trying).

Personally I think considering we have content from both Shanda and WeMade we have enough to provide for another 100 level's easy...

My thoughts.
Sam

Now that is the type of response we was all waiting for, and thank you for it.

Deffantly begin with the gem/orb situation, as like you said bringing in new items will be difficult now a lot of players have these über added items. Next would deffantly be the boss situation, making then harder and less chance of dropping flooding the server with all the goodies, it's a lowrate at the end of day.

Aslong as the server is stable and has a good team (which it is and has) then I'm sure once word gets about, the users will come.