Important List of Issues to Address

[xXxX]

I agree from a wizards standpoint, the 65+ wizzys can run around happily lvling anywhere while doing very nice damage from their Mc hermits, Wizzys under that hit like a wet noodle in places like snow,dv etc since the recent patch, so it's quite hard to level at a decent rate to catch these people up, who had enough power to get to those levels before the change (Maybe look at the MR on mobs in certain leveling hotspots? i dunno =/).

Also as mentioned elsewhere weapon stats really need looking into, at the moment there is very little incentive to get excited about gaining a rare weapon as its like 0-1 mc gain from a weapon 10 levels lower. (95% of wizzys ingame including 70+'s still running around in numa mage staffs is proof enough that somethings wrong)

Finally TU,It's soo damn limited, Its always been good for wizzys crowd control provided they are the right level, I mean even Zuma Archers cant be TU'd. Maybe make BP/JP Stoning statues (para ones) TU-Able? thats 2 caves that only warriors really soloed in/moved on from and would be a nice alternative place to be able to go for some exp since the hermit change rather than being paralocked to death because only warriors defiance mr can block the para attacks.

 

[Starwen]

What i think about low lv lving is due to amount of mr low lv monster are having, amount of block is unreal, when i play tao under lv 20 the most effective way to kill mob is knife them. Chicken have 2-2, wolf 4-4, flea 6-6 (mr), while low lv player have 0-7 spell power. I recall actually use green posion get mob to 1 and knife 1 by 1.

Generally lower the mr for low level monster should help wizzy and tao to be able to kill monster in a reasonable speed (for how grandy it is, the mr change does not effect high lv)
This should make low lv wizzy to get exp effectively (might work for high lv wizzy after hermit change).

The main part of tao-pet is like none existance after 10 lv getting the ability. Just buffing pet is just providing endless army of pets, how about bring the mir2 pet lv system in?
Make the tao's style different from wizzy, pet become revelent toward lving, a target for solo tao to use buff for, and a reason to keep the pet alive. This helps tao's general playstyle instead of weaker wizzy with bit utility. I am not sure about people feel toward getting one shot by high lv pet explosion (eventhough high lv pet take time to set up)

The only think i can think of sc buff is buff scale, i think most people won't mind having some actually buff on, and for tao to better fit wall pvp. Green posion tick scale could help too.

 

[Westie]

My suggestions... as only a 46 tao this is how a see things
I like we have element stacking, tt gives us an edge to solo in certain places and gives us gear to work for BUT imo this should also be scaled of SC some how, right now someone with a sc0-4 holy+2 ring is doing less damage then some with a holy+5 very low level ring with no SC on it. Your being punished for using and refining your class items.
I would also love to see more effect on our group spells from SC like heal/poison/buff, not only will this makes us more viable for a group, and more likely to get groups made but it means in a place where we wont be doing any damage (banyo for example) we can stack our highest SC for the greater good of the group!
Can you tell i enjoy having multipule kits? Also enjoy playing Tao as intended, a support class.

As for pets, i dont think they should be messed with too much, maybe little more AC/MR but tbh if our heal/buffs scaled off SC you could keep them alive alot easier!

+1 For newbie guild with exp buff, but only too 33 max, bad enough people are getting to 25 and getting lvld in banyo!

+1 for all being aloud to sell from GG store, prices are rising because 50+ now have more gold to spend.

+1 For weapon stat overhall, grinded like mad to get a 42 tao wep for something different from a big stick, yes it has 1+ holy but also has 2-4 yes 2-4 LESS sc then lvl 38 runed staff??

/Westie

 

[GeeDee]

Jamie please do not make Advanced books more common. I spent millions and hunted for weeks to get mine. If I can do it so can they. It will be a big kick in the nuts if everyone and their dog suddenly gets books that I spent weeks to find.

Also a big thing at the moment is guild caps. Not sure if you saw my suggestion but I think it's a good one.

Make two types of guilds. One is the same as it is now. The other is 20 cap with additional benefits such as bigger group size and a small exp / drop buff. This will create more guilds but also allow bigger guilds to stay with all their friends and not have to drop people.

I know a change like that would be easy for a coder like you.

 

[WelshSteel]

Jamie please do not make Advanced books more common. I spent millions and hunted for weeks

Who was that tao again who plays with Chinano1? the amount of hunting in honeymoon that they did and they didn't get the book was ridiculous so with that said it's pretty much fukin impossible for the casual player to get this book dropped and the only option they would have is to farm ant/flee for months!

Let's not forget that big oppressive player's or guilds much like yourself can monopolize the area where this book drops, I don't actually believe most of WW know what the words 'fair play' and 'competitive' mean.

 

[GeeDee]

This is a class-specific feature, I don't see why it should be taken away just because other classes don't have it... we might as well fuse all classes into one if they're not going to have something that makes them unique. We don't even use RT that much because the huge CD on pots (just FYI, it does stack so you could end up with 5min cd on potions)

You mean class specific like when Sins could wipe out all the sub bosses because we learnt the timer, so the timer was changed to give other classes a fairer chance at finding them?

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Who was that tao again who plays with Chinano1? the amount of hunting in honeymoon that they did and they didn't get the book was ridiculous so with that said it's pretty much fukin impossible for the casual player to get this book dropped and the only option they would have is to farm ant/flee for months!

Let's not forget that big oppressive player's or guilds much like yourself can monopolize the area where this book drops, I don't actually believe most of WW know what the words 'fair play' and 'competitive' mean.

I SAID this exact thing when I was hunting the books for weeks and nothing changed. Why should it change now? After i finally got it after actually doing some HUNTING to find it.

I cant find numa set, because im a sin it takes me too long to kill mob in Numa. Should NumaSet be changed so it is easier to find?

 

[WelshSteel]

I SAID this exact thing when I was hunting the books for weeks and nothing changed. Why should it change now?

Let's say a player finds it at 99/100 and it fails, a skill that can make their toon 3 times stronger fails, another few weeks/month delay, bare in mind that can happen again at 99% chance!

Let's say it's so rare that a guild/group of players can monopolize it, you know a monopoly can have such an advantage it can get so much gold, an amount that could take MONTHS to farm!

Let's say 70/100 or under rare books are getting wasted on oppressive fresh start server players trying to get their rare skill to lvl 4?

Should i carry on? gtfo

 

[DigitalDevil]

A few areas I feel should receive a review:-

Hunting Areas - In general really, so many places just seem to go unhunted, is there a means to repurpose some of these so we have more options for every class rather than everyone exclusively hunting one specific map/cave? (I believe this is true for all classes).

Guild War System - This is a total mess at the moment, you can effectivly War an opposing guild 24/7 if you so wish, maybe a scaling cost needs to be included? So the first war within a 24 hour period costs value “X” and every war after that would increase in cost by and increasing percentage until the 24 hour timer resets and the cost would start from the beginning again. Additionally there’s a lack of reason to War at the moment, sure it means you don’t go red but there should be something that gives the better PvPing guild on the server some bragging rights (Guild War League Table anyone?).

Sabuk Wall - I’m not sure what the answer is here but the current system isn’t overly great (not particularly poor either), it’s too easy for an attacking guild to win... I still think the several “capture points” with a king of the hill type points system would work best as it means there is more strategy to attacking and defending.

Desert Mud Wall - Needed badly imo

Guild Alliance - I’m sure most others would agree this is needed, it’s a core part of the game and makes building these relationships between guilds worth it.

Weapons - Review the stats and make it worthwhile in getting a 42, 45, 49 etc weapon, most just seem pointlessly... unless we are looking to become a “glamour” type server (which I’d not be against glamour items in game gold shop).

There are loads of other areas but I feel these cover the masses rather than going off on a class specific tangent.

 

[GeeDee]

U think my first one worked?!?! I hunted, got a 46 pager, it failed. I paid a lot of gold for another copy, it worked. I then found 2 more which i gave out to guildies.


Monopolise Goru / hyunmoon and Holy Palace? Are u drunk lad?


Most people choose to LEACH in banyo rather than hunting places that they can get the book drop. THIS IS WHY YOU AINT GETTING THEM.

 

[UnluckyXIII]

You mean class specific like when Sins could wipe out all the sub bosses because we learnt the timer, so the timer was changed to give other classes a fairer chance at finding them?

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I SAID this exact thing when I was hunting the books for weeks and nothing changed. Why should it change now? After i finally got it after actually doing some HUNTING to find it.

I cant find numa set, because im a sin it takes me too long to kill mob in Numa. Should NumaSet be changed so it is easier to find?

I’m level 56, I’ve not yet had a single copy of ABF drop.... knowing my luck, when it does, it will have 8 pages lol!

BUT, I’m not going to agree with WelshSteel, I feel that some stuff in game should feel hard to achieve, this is for the people who are able to dedicate a large amount of their game time to obtaining these items, with all the changes and alterations my worry is that we are making the server too easy and shortening its life span in doing so, some stuff needs to be rare or what’s the point??

XIII

 

[Lionsm!ght]

Let's say a player finds it at 99/100 and it fails, a skill that can make their toon 3 times stronger fails, another few weeks/month delay, bare in mind that can happen again at 99% chance!

Let's say it's so rare that a guild/group of players can monopolize it, you know a monopoly can have such an advantage it can get so much gold, an amount that could take MONTHS to farm!

Let's say 70/100 or under rare books are getting wasted on oppressive fresh start server players trying to get their rare skill to lvl 4?

Should i carry on? gtfo

1. None of the elite books will make your toon 3x stronger.
2. With the guaranteed drops, keep hunting you will get it. take a group of other classes and then you can swap books with them
3. kill some of the subs, everyone is busy on the 80k mob grind, take some people to kill some subs and that rate comes down fast.
4. Its up to the higher levels if they want to risk it for level 4 or sell for a nice profit, given the current market you would be an idiot to try for level 4.
5. everyone wants to do it all solo/3-4man, the guild coming together to achieve an objective seems long gone in the remaining mir community. We used to spend days clearing a route in places like MS after a reboot on euro, so we could farm the boss easier in the week. I think the guaranteed drop rate has something to do with this as drops are theirs so no encouragement for the collective.

 

[GeeDee]

I’m level 56, I’ve not yet had a single copy of ABF drop.... knowing my luck, when it does, it will have 8 pages lol!

BUT, I’m not going to agree with WelshSteel, I feel that some stuff in game should feel hard to achieve, this is for the people who are able to dedicate a large amount of their game time to obtaining these items, with all the changes and alterations my worry is that we are making the server too easy and shortening its life span in doing so, some stuff needs to be rare or what’s the point??

XIII

You do deserve the book. I see u in goru all the time. BUT - you are now making great exp and awesome gold. Remember when it used to cost us 500k-1m gold to level in there for an hour?

Now there is no draw back of hunting in goru. It has gold and exp. If it has items too, it is broken.

 

[WelshSteel]

Most people choose to LEACH in banyo rather than hunting places that they can get the book drop. THIS IS WHY YOU AINT GETTING THEM.

Can you blame them!? hard as *** mobs with *** all chance of getting a book, or even a lvl 44 armor (you know sometimes you play mir to get the chance of add).

lvl's = hermit points, lvl's equal not getting ****ed in the ass by a lvl 70 almost instantly.

At the end of the day you can't balance a game around certain areas and certain skills, it's a complete failure of a system.

 

[Lionsm!ght]

A few areas I feel should receive a review:-

Hunting Areas - In general really, so many places just seem to go unhunted, is there a means to repurpose some of these so we have more options for every class rather than everyone exclusively hunting one specific map/cave? (I believe this is true for all classes).

Guild War System - This is a total mess at the moment, you can effectivly War an opposing guild 24/7 if you so wish, maybe a scaling cost needs to be included? So the first war within a 24 hour period costs value “X” and every war after that would increase in cost by and increasing percentage until the 24 hour timer resets and the cost would start from the beginning again. Additionally there’s a lack of reason to War at the moment, sure it means you don’t go red but there should be something that gives the better PvPing guild on the server some bragging rights (Guild War League Table anyone?).

Sabuk Wall - I’m not sure what the answer is here but the current system isn’t overly great (not particularly poor either), it’s too easy for an attacking guild to win... I still think the several “capture points” with a king of the hill type points system would work best as it means there is more strategy to attacking and defending.

Desert Mud Wall - Needed badly imo

Guild Alliance - I’m sure most others would agree this is needed, it’s a core part of the game and makes building these relationships between guilds worth it.

Weapons - Review the stats and make it worthwhile in getting a 42, 45, 49 etc weapon, most just seem pointlessly... unless we are looking to become a “glamour” type server (which I’d not be against glamour items in game gold shop).

There are loads of other areas but I feel these cover the masses rather than going off on a class specific tangent.

Some good points here definately.

Would like to see the scaling goru idea in some of the other caves. Maybe not every floor but every 2-3 floors.

 

[GeeDee]

Can you blame them!? hard as *** mobs with *** all chance of getting a book, or even a lvl 44 armor (you know sometimes you play mir to get the chance of add).

lvl's = hermit points, lvl's equally not getting ****ed in the ass by a lvl 70 almost instantly.

At the end of the day you can't balance a game around certain areas and certain skills, it's a complete failure of a system.

HARD MOB? They used to hit ALOT harder when I grinded there from 45-55. They did not drop money. It cost us an absolute fortune to hunt there. And guess what? We managed, and we got the books drop.

You "Casuals" dont know how easy u now have it compared to what we went through. Need to be spoon fed. You basically want the books more common so u dont have to hunt it your self or work for it. You can just buy it from other people.

 

[WelshSteel]

1. None of the elite books will make your toon 3x stronger.

Tao explosion and new pet literally changes the class and makes it over 3x stronger, i won't bother doing the math it would be sad.

all your other points are an opinion on the mechanics of the server which i'm going to say is kind of pog wash and I'm not a fan.

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HARD MOB? They used to hit ALOT harder when I grinded there from 45-55. They did not drop money. It cost us an absolute fortune to hunt there. And guess what? We managed, and we got the books drop.

You "Casuals" dont know how easy u now have it compared to what we went through. Need to be spoon fed. You basically want the books more common so u dont have to hunt it your self or work for it. You can just buy it from other people.

"HARD MOB? They used to hit ALOT harder when I grinded there from 45-55. They did not drop money. It cost us an absolute fortune to hunt there. And guess what? We got experience and levels, we managed, and we got the books drop"

Sorry to put words in ur mouth, you do realise wherever you make guarenteed money you stop lvling right? get the f....

You do deserve the book. I see u in goru all the time. BUT - you are now making great exp and awesome gold

...uck out!

 

[Exwizz]

Top and bottom of the whole book drop situations they hardly dropped when people just started to hunt in these areas (1-5 people) and now half the server are hunting in these areas they are still not dropping for anyone even thou the caves are heavily hunted.

The books are more important for some classes than they are others.

 

[GeeDee]

You will be getting experience, levels and gold now. Stop crying and go hunt them.

 

[Exwizz]

It’s a good job Jamie has already took this on board nd looking into it and isn’t listening to selfish prick like yourself.

Enjoy posting more dribble.

 

[Exsodius]

SW timer needs addressing, 24 hour apply time is ridiculous, easily abused and boring for everyone on the server.

Original timer was 72 hours....