Magic booster

[Kalamonde]

So ive heard that level 3 magic booster gives 24-24 Mc.... which made me want to ask the dev team or whoever does the class balancing about it. (if its BS happily correct it!)




Does the dev team feel that much MC is not abit over powered for a self buffing spell?




Im not sure what rage gives and if its as extreme id also ask the same thing....just seems that much of a buff level 50+ or not causes more balance issues, 24-24 mc is more mc then a half a kits worth
I understood from Sam's thinking at launch that wizzies were too over powered and were hit with god awful nerfs.... maybe high level spells were overlooked? ive been a wiz in the past and always mentioned things that I felt were over powered, said enough times on Acem2 months before the TU change that it needed changing/looking into.




Im not crying for a nerf to wizzies, i did enough shouting back at the launch of the server fighting to get alot of the bad changes to wizards by the team reverted back, though fire wall is still on a timer! :P


Just looking for the teams thoughts on the numbers the skill gives, helps get an idea how you guys think balance wise.


/Pan

 

[rainstone]

you know what, i am getting tied of such kind of crying. make yourself a wiz

 

[Jicaa]

you know what, i am getting tied of such kind of crying. make yourself a wiz

I don't think a wizard/warr/sin only server is very fun

 

[PackardBell]

So ive heard that level 3 magic booster gives 24-24 Mc.... which made me want to ask the dev team or whoever does the class balancing about it. (if its BS happily correct it!)




Does the dev team feel that much MC is not abit over powered for a self buffing spell?




Im not sure what rage gives and if its as extreme id also ask the same thing....just seems that much of a buff level 50+ or not causes more balance issues, 24-24 mc is more mc then a half a kits worth
I understood from Sam's thinking at launch that wizzies were too over powered and were hit with god awful nerfs.... maybe high level spells were overlooked? ive been a wiz in the past and always mentioned things that I felt were over powered, said enough times on Acem2 months before the TU change that it needed changing/looking into.




Im not crying for a nerf to wizzies, i did enough shouting back at the launch of the server fighting to get alot of the bad changes to wizards by the team reverted back, though fire wall is still on a timer! :P


Just looking for the teams thoughts on the numbers the skill gives, helps get an idea how you guys think balance wise.

/Pan

thing you cant fight on a war doesn't mean you need to cry man ROFL you such a girl when about PvP, go play with your small dick


PS: have you fking try to get fking Rage before you spread your infected tears all over?

dumb fking noob wanna beat wiz with all skills while the idiot has FS/TDB LMAO!!!!

 

[HokusPokus]

you know what, i am getting tied of such kind of crying. make yourself a wiz

+1

 

[Corbu]

+1

+1

PS MB mc 24-24 is @ FUKING LVL 52 u retard.

 

[ILovePie:D]

thing you cant fight on a war doesn't mean you need to cry man ROFL you such a girl when about PvP, go play with your small dick


PS: have you fking try to get fking Rage before you spread your infected tears all over?

dumb fking noob wanna beat wiz with all skills while the idiot has FS/TDB LMAO!!!!

This has to be Lkira lol.

 

[Silencer]

Fix Archers first.

 

[Jicaa]

wtb dc 24-24 buff for archer/sin and sc 24-24 buff for Tao

 

[Paloma]

24 base. TWENTY FOUR . RMS were officially changed because base 10 was too high. Down to LESS THAN HALF.
Luck 7 needs looking at
now agil limits too.

 

[Babyhack]

Level 0 MC6-6
Level 1 MC12-12
Level 2 MC18-18
Level 3 MC24-24
Level 4 MC30-30 (not ingame)

That is from official, so it's based on official server stats.

BH

 

[Paloma]

thing you cant fight on a war doesn't mean you need to cry man ROFL you such a girl when about PvP, go play with your small dick


PS: have you fking try to get fking Rage before you spread your infected tears all over?

dumb fking noob wanna beat wiz with all skills while the idiot has FS/TDB LMAO!!!!

#
Take your stupid attitude and your disgusting mouth and stuff it with money to stop you opening it any more
or do stupid fking person wants to one hit everyone by being 10 levels higher with 2x the stats. Thats not playong.

 

[Corbu]

wtb dc 24-24 buff for archer/sin and sc 24-24 buff for Tao

There is no skill lvl 48+ iet in game 4 war,sin and no lvl 50 spell 4 tao.

100% skils like that will 1 hit lot of ppl stop the fuking moans,and go fking lvl your noob ass.

 

[Muh]

Wiz are maxed out @52 (MB wise met still levels), at 60 rage keeps adding dc to additional kit due to the stat increase. It will do til lvl 500..MB is set MC.
Albeit.
Stfu crying and get MR.
Also, You change kit for town PVP, why do you even care?

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[Jicaa]

How much % dc is rage? Also its what 1.5dc per 1mc for effectiveness?

Geniune question as I am wondering how many years down the line till rage actually gives dc like MB gives for mc

 

[CantTouchThis]

There is no skill lvl 48+ iet in game 4 war,sin and no lvl 50 spell 4 tao.

100% skils like that will 1 hit lot of ppl stop the fuking moans,and go fking lvl your noob ass.

Sam's already said Slashing Burst (which I think is lvl 50?) won't be 'end game' therefore I doubt it'll be 1 hitting people.

Wiz are maxed out @52 (MB wise met still levels), at 60 rage keeps adding dc to additional kit due to the stat increase. It will do til lvl 500..MB is set MC.
after 50, the next base stat increase is lvl 60, and it's only 1-1 so this isn't really going to have much impact on Rage. Also...lvl 60? Do you see anyone getting this any time soon? Let alone a warrior (excluding the bikes that are levelled by Roms)?
Albeit.
Stfu crying and get MR.
MR doesn't affect the very spells that MB makes overpowered (FF, Blizz, Met)
Also, You change kit for town PVP, why do you even care?

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This is unfortunately a pointless thread, as every wizard ingame will jump on it and defend the OPness of MB to the hills, using such defences as 'go level noob', 'go make a wizz' etc, as we've already seen. Wizards do need tweaking but atm there's too much bias for any genuine/constructive discussion around what changes would make things more balanced.

 

[Doug]

If you have the time and commitment to level a wizard to 52+ you should be benefitted with this spell boost, Wizards are **** till level 48 then they get powerful,
None of the other spells have dropped yet, and as stated for
Example rage level 4 with level56 gear will give a lot more than a 24 do boost in a well kitted warrior, meaning once that wizards shield down he's 1 hittable, also that war can 1 hit most other classes with that kind of dc and no other class has magic shield, so the fingers will point at a warrior 1 hitting everyone with 1400 hp tank, then you'll cry harder than a wiz, least you have a chance to kill a wiz, also hemorrhage isn't ingwme and said to be the Sins game breaker spell, so while We nerf a wizard who's put effort in to become strong, rather than being bullied by all classes as we were for 8 months of server up, you'll be progressively asking for each and every other class to be nerfed as their skills drop, then you will end up with archer crisis again, archer AB temp fixed coz people complain it's 1 hitting people from a screen away and too OP to the point you need to be close, now all other class gear and spells are dropping the archer is under powered from this fix which YOU the players wanted asap as you couldn't be patient enough to take a beating till the skills of other classes become more common, now your complaint for archers to be "fixed" when they were already "fixed" coz they were "broken" but are now more "broken" although they were "fixed" hahaha the vicious circle of the Mir community, maybe stop QQing and EVERY possible chance, and we would have our monks now which your all anxiously pestering the devs for, accept a ****ing ass whooping for some time til your own class's content is ingame,

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Using predictive text on an iPhone please try and use your brains and bridge the broken biscuits in my message, cba re editing for something like level4 meaning level 3 and do for DC or MC
Ta

 

[Corbu]

If you have the time and commitment to level a wizard to 52+ you should be benefitted with this spell boost, Wizards are **** till level 48 then they get powerful,
None of the other spells have dropped yet, and as stated for
Example rage level 4 with level56 gear will give a lot more than a 24 do boost in a well kitted warrior, meaning once that wizards shield down he's 1 hittable, also that war can 1 hit most other classes with that kind of dc and no other class has magic shield, so the fingers will point at a warrior 1 hitting everyone with 1400 hp tank, then you'll cry harder than a wiz, least you have a chance to kill a wiz, also hemorrhage isn't ingwme and said to be the Sins game breaker spell, so while We nerf a wizard who's put effort in to become strong, rather than being bullied by all classes as we were for 8 months of server up, you'll be progressively asking for each and every other class to be nerfed as their skills drop, then you will end up with archer crisis again, archer AB temp fixed coz people complain it's 1 hitting people from a screen away and too OP to the point you need to be close, now all other class gear and spells are dropping the archer is under powered from this fix which YOU the players wanted asap as you couldn't be patient enough to take a beating till the skills of other classes become more common, now your complaint for archers to be "fixed" when they were already "fixed" coz they were "broken" but are now more "broken" although they were "fixed" hahaha the vicious circle of the Mir community, maybe stop QQing and EVERY possible chance, and we would have our monks now which your all anxiously pestering the devs for, accept a ****ing ass whooping for some time til your own class's content is ingame,

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Using predictive text on an iPhone please try and use your brains and bridge the broken biscuits in my message, cba re editing for something like level4 meaning level 3 and do for DC or MC
Ta

+1

 

[ILovePie:D]

I remember the days when "wizards were **** until 45 when they got level 3 FF" lol.

A "good" wizard kit for FF on euro was mc25-50 ish? Wizards would work together to take groups down. Now we see double those numbers (min and max) and wizards being able to take out full groups solo.

Why not allow MB to stay as it is, but stop magic shield being able to be cast while mb is active? Shield is Overpowered on here and lasts forever.

 

[Razarus]

Make defensive stats mean something.......
AMC should negate a large chunk of wiz damage if stacked. Currently it does not.
MR should avoid any magic spell, currently it doesnt.
The only issue with wizards and its been said time and time again, the attacks are unavoidable other than possitioning.

A few possible fixes that would not nerf anyone.

MR to avoid AOE at 50% the rate of single target magic.

Boos AMC effectivness, (or double each amc stat)

Change how FF works - more enemies hit higher damage. (Hit 4or more targets 100%spell damage, hit 3 = 75% 2=50% 1=25%) no way should the prime aoe skill be themain skill for 1on1 fights aswell its silly.

All 3 options would fix the issue without affecting leveling ability, usefulness, or damage potential if used correctly.

Btw "level to 52 and you deserve to have op stats" is not a valid argument, no class should be OP over the same level alternative class. They should have advantages in different scenarios.

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Just to add to that last point, if a sin got a spell at level 52 that gave AMC 200-200 negating all wiz damage would that be "ok" because he deserves it... No