Magic Resistance - Wizards

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Alot of Wizards have been complaining including myself about the lack of damage output. It is very easy to say get more MC wait till your FF is level 3, wait till you have met blah blah.

Wizards shouldn't need to be level 45+ before they start dealing enough damage to kill people.

Wizards have always been a squishy class but often a high damage dealer, it seems quite opposite on here no one has Pked me yet but i cant kill anyone either.

Wizard vs Wizard is pointless because for some reason Wizards are tanky but don't hurt. Myself and im sure several other Wizards have just given up trying to PVP each other because its just dura/pot waste.

Taos seem to be able to just stand still shooting SFB's not even having to try because Wizards cant deal enough damage to counter potions+heal.

Vs mobs i seem to be very strong my Tbolt and FD hits 120's quite frequently and they go down fast. Vs players i seem to hit around 30-80's.. I think the reason behind this is because so many players have Magic Resistance, You can get +1 from a perm buff +1 from a Mir package +1 on dragon boots and if you can afford or have had Red scale boots that's +2. So the majority of people who have donated and i know that isn't everyone but the people who have has ATLEAST 3-4 MR in full damage/normal kit.

May i suggest removing MR from boots i get that you are filling the void that used to have weight reducing stats but i believe MR is too easy to obtain here.
 

Jamie

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Magic Resist doesn't decrease that actual damage you deal, Magic Resist acts like Agility.

Try use Vampirism or Frost Chrunch on people.
 

pwnage

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Magic Resist doesn't decrease that actual damage you deal, Magic Resist acts like Agility.

Try use Vampirism or Frost Chrunch on people.
Trust me ive been using everything lol, Vamp is probably the strongest but still does'nt hurt much FC is sick for slow and blue but obviously does'nt hurt i wouldnt expect FC to hurt.

Not trying to bitch and moan just feel that players are too tanky but dont deal enough damage, its rare to see anyone drop on a map that they can rt on unless they get 3-4 players hitting simultaneously.

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Magic Resist doesn't decrease that actual damage you deal, Magic Resist acts like Agility.

Try use Vampirism or Frost Chrunch on people.
Trust me ive been using everything lol, Vamp is probably the strongest but still does'nt hurt much FC is sick for slow and blue but obviously does'nt hurt i wouldnt expect FC to hurt.

Not trying to bitch and moan just feel that players are too tanky but dont deal enough damage, its rare to see anyone drop on a map that they can rt on unless they get 3-4 players hitting simultaneously.
 

Merc_Draven

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I can say frost Crunch lvl 3 is OP :D fk all damage but that slow YO!

jamie will nerf soon :(


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Buff lightening buy 25% please - this should be the best damaging spell ! i wanna blow people away, quite hard to land as well, everything else is ok...
 
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problem is you want to rape people at level 40... by 50 your be 1 hitting people.. lol
 

Shane/Banshee

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Trust me ive been using everything lol, Vamp is probably the strongest but still does'nt hurt much FC is sick for slow and blue but obviously does'nt hurt i wouldnt expect FC to hurt.

Not trying to bitch and moan just feel that players are too tanky but dont deal enough damage, its rare to see anyone drop on a map that they can rt on unless they get 3-4 players hitting simultaneously.

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Trust me ive been using everything lol, Vamp is probably the strongest but still does'nt hurt much FC is sick for slow and blue but obviously does'nt hurt i wouldnt expect FC to hurt.

Not trying to bitch and moan just feel that players are too tanky but dont deal enough damage, its rare to see anyone drop on a map that they can rt on unless they get 3-4 players hitting simultaneously.


Remove rts when in combat, problem solved. People will die or telehome
 

pwnage

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problem is you want to rape people at level 40... by 50 your be 1 hitting people.. lol
Trouble is i want to be able to pvp before level 40 without it being a waste of time, also im level 42 just saying.
 

WelshSteel

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I can say frost Crunch lvl 3 is OP :D fk all damage but that slow YO!

jamie will nerf soon :(

No way is a nerf needed, against lvl 40+'s fc slow/blue is low probability it actually looks like it needs buffing ever so slightly.
 

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there shouldn't be, the cap should be when you cannot get hit by the black people :O
 

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Magic Resist doesn't decrease that actual damage you deal, Magic Resist acts like Agility.

Try use Vampirism or Frost Chrunch on people.

Jamie u cant blive how wizz is just **** on ur server i am lvl 43 wizz cant even kill people lvl 30+ as i lvled ma spells and i have pets my spells do fking no dmg wizz is useles for pvp on ur server am just quiting wizz for the first time....used to play only wizz didnt even try to change that class i like it and i have played alot of servers with it first time see wizz is just **** class on ur server tbh u have to just test it or RIP
 

Rollcage

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understand, all these high lvl sin u see are at end game for the current setting, wiz are not till at least 45...
you think ur weak because sin can overpower you so easily, but thats not the case, sins are at a stage where all they can do increase damage output is gain dc (end game)
wiz are not, when you get to 45 things will change 100%...unless ur not that good, there are at least 2 spells that i KNOW will be insanely strong, havnt seen blizz/met yet, but sins only have DB after that (so far) i wont lie that sins cutting through shield is stinky, but...that and moonlight is pretty much all they have in pvp.*correction.No cooldown swiftfeet*

also, consider your kit, if you running around in 5string set for hp, you have no right to complain about your damage....try going fulll mc endgame (when ur 45) like sins are full dc now and see how that fight turns out.
im not sure on thier hp, but if its similiar to a warr jamie needs o look into that, cos there is no way a sin should be able to tank what an actual tank can in pvp.
 
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I'm not sure if it is just a wiz issue, my below finding so far as a sin.

i died once at level 30 in rme kr. Fighting.

dc 82 sin I've still not pked anyone. They rt or run away. I've not even come close to being pked, or had to rt In a 1v1. I think the pots are too strong in pvp ATM. Group fights are completely different I see many rts happening all the time. Later on when kits and skills improve people will actually die from the damage output. If they died now, later on people will stand no chance
 

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I'm not sure if it is just a wiz issue, my below finding so far as a sin.

i died once at level 30 in rme kr. Fighting.

dc 82 sin I've still not pked anyone. They rt or run away. I've not even come close to being pked, or had to rt In a 1v1. I think the pots are too strong in pvp ATM. Group fights are completely different I see many rts happening all the time. Later on when kits and skills improve people will actually die from the damage output. If they died now, later on people will stand no chance

its not the pots are too strong, you shouldnt have as much hp as you have and the drawbacks in damage that other classes receive for using certain sets dont apply to orchid set ( for a sin)
 

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Wiz are late bloomers you get your main spell at 49

45 lvl 3 ff
47 lvl 2 bliz
48 mb
49 met
50 mb lvl 2 lvl 3 bliz
52 met lvl 2 lvl 3 mb

(I maybe out a lvl or 2 depends how he's set them)

Few months yet either way
 

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Just now starting to hit my stride of wizzy damage with lvl 3 FF/lvl 1 blizz. With some lucky hits, its not impossible to blizz>ff combo someone to death.

Yes, it's a ball ache to get to and it's going to be a ball ache to reach the next few important lvls (unless you're lkira £_£) but it's just how it is.

However, I do think Magic Resist is working TOO effectively on here. Both in terms of PvP and PvE. I've had people resist all 4 hits of blizzard with only 3MR on them, which is just absurd.