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CremeEgg82

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Excuse me... what? these changes are entirely unfavourable for SD yet they didn't split, it's you all who decided to form smaller guilds for your benefit & now that you can't beat SD because you don't have the numbers you complain...
This! No one forced anyone to leave a guild, NO managed to retain most members, a handful or so left to do their own thing.

Not everyone that plays is a min/max’er, not everyone that plays is only in it for themselves. Outside of the most vocal minority the large part of the player base are playing for community and with friends and don’t take it anywhere near as seriously as some do.
 

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He gave people a massive massive incentive to go in little guilds. Now people have done it he’s basically saying “jokes” sabuk get the same buff.

We accepted we wouldn’t beat sd in our small guilds it was a given, but the buff was worth it, Now sd get pretty much the same buffs.

Was a post a few days ago from sd complaining about the change as it’s stopped people logging in, boom they get same buff as everyone else.
 

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Instead of getting abusive and throwing toys out of the pram... Why not give some feedback?

Example - Buff A should be x
Buff B should be x

etc etc.

"LOL Jamy jus lookingz avter his m8s!"isn't helpful guys.
 

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He gave people a massive massive incentive to go in little guilds. Now people have done it he’s basically saying “jokes” sabuk get the same buff.

We accepted we wouldn’t beat sd in our small guilds it was a given, but the buff was worth it, Now sd get pretty much the same buffs.

Was a post a few days ago from sd complaining about the change as it’s stopped people logging in, boom they get same buff as everyone else.


This, basically handed dominance to SD permanently now.

Sabuk should offer a different bonus than just the buff, it should have a dungeon/quest line like it use to.
 

ipwnu

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Shouldn’t be any sort of buff for being in a massive guild. 10 percent from sabuk was a good enough incentive for being in the top guild personally don’t think what’s being suggested is that bad but should be no buff for having more than 45 members

Makes 45 members optimum so sabuk changes hands and encourages people to actually go for it, but if sleeping dragons wanna stay at guild cap and just have the 10 percent they still have that option.
45 members with sabuk - 28 percent buff same as tiny guilds or have 80 members and get 10 percent buff like now.

Only thing I have an issue with is the buff for 46 plus members it’s simply not needed
 

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So you have split guilds up giving sd an even further / complete dominance, now that there is no other strong guild you basically give them the same exp and drop as everyone else at 45 members or they can have a full massive guild and lose 7 percent.

I know you are close friends with sleeping dragons from other servers, do they literally tell you how to make the server better for them or ?

If you’d done this from the start big guilds wouldn’t of split up they would of just tried even harder for sabuk wall

Exactly .... **** this **** it rely .. Jamie how many SD are liking ur balls u favoring them all the time ? I play in your other servers dude and also played with u in other server which u were not GM.. i did not expect this from u

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STFU.

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Disclaimer: There's really way to properly test the balanced guild rates so this will be an ongoing adjustment until its fair, but we are happy with the mechanic

We are happy with the mechanics... let me correct you JAMIE... SD AND YOU ARE happy with the mechanic ... NO ONE ELSE

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pretty sure u can get more exp by being in a smallish guild still than u can get by actually owning sabuk wall. how is that unfair towards you? please explain your tears

Dont be pretty sure u ****ing ass liker.. U know it well , BIG guild = easy boss .. you explain if fair for small guild which has no chance on bosses having same ****ing buff with ass liking balls rubbing SD guild ?
 

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Whole idea of it was to split user count into smaller guilds for better fights.

Not for sd to become even more attractive to be in ....
 

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I don’t know why people are complaining about SD “dominance” there are boss they do not even turn up to.... and even out numbered can be pked at bosses
 

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****ing stupid, increasing mob levels screws over your casual players at 55 you can fetter lair mobs now you have to be 65... every change your helping others by screwing other players over.
 

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You all babies are being unreasonable... you want to have it all, I don't think it's an issue for you all to have a big buff without working for it because it's meant to be a catch-up mechanic but you also want to have the same chances as the biggest guild... WELL FKING WORK FOR IT YOU LAZY ****S.
 

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You all babies are being unreasonable... you want to have it all, I don't think it's an issue for you all to have a big buff without working for it because it's meant to be a catch-up mechanic but you also want to have the same chances as the biggest guild... WELL FKING WORK FOR IT YOU LAZY ****S.

All your posts like this just make you come across as a spoilt brat.


Shouldn’t be any sort of buff for being in a massive guild. 10 percent from sabuk was a good enough incentive for being in the top guild personally don’t think what’s being suggested is that bad but should be no buff for having more than 45 members

+1 should be no further buff after 45 members meaning you can air on the side of caution and stack your buffs with 45 members but will make keeping Sabuk harder as you're going to be trying to do so with a smaller unit.
 

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So you think sleeping dragons should have basically the same buff in a guild capped guild as the people who left a big guild to get the bonus?.

Idea of the buff was to incentivise people into smaller guilds now we done it he’s also giving that buff to sleeping dragons.

No sleeping dragons shouldn’t get a massive Buff and get to keep all there members, it goes completely against what was trying to be achieved
 

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So you think sleeping dragons should have basically the same buff in a guild capped guild as the people who left a big guild to get the bonus?.

Idea of the buff was to incentivise people into smaller guilds now we done it he’s also giving that buff to sleeping dragons.

No sleeping dragons shouldn’t get a massive Buff and get to keep all there members, it goes completely against what was trying to be achieved

Maybe what was trying to be achieved wasn't correct. If you like we could remove all the bonuses, you could then rejoin your guild? The small guilds with the buffs hurt the server rather then being positive.

There is a disclaimer attached with the patch notes. Feedback from the server is the only way we can try getting this balanced.
 

ipwnu

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Can’t see people who abandoned there guilds for an exp buff being welcomed back with open arms tbh Shane
 

Shane/Banshee

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Can’t see people who abandoned there guilds for an exp buff being welcomed back with open arms tbh Shane

Me neither. So that's why the buffs are smooths out. If the feed back is negative then it can be tweaked again.
 

ipwnu

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What exactly are you trying to achieve Wirh the change ? What is ideal outcome ?.
 

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0-15 - 30%
16-30 - 20%
31- 40 - 10%
40+ - Nothing

Something like this would be ideal!

sorry we cant get it right for every player.

No but thankfully you guys said its going to be under constant review until it is right. I think the issue is having a buff for guilds above 40-45 members, try removing this and I think you'll have hit the nail on the head.

(and please sort out adding the quest dungeon with the Sabuk Lord as the boss for the wall holders :p thats suppose to be part of the perks having a dedicated private map with bosses)
 
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