Trouble is people invest money into the server in a state they enjoy it and then they make drastic changes and make it ****.
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Should not have left the guild to begin with.
I don't think anyone would mind guilds with 45+ members to not get a buff but you can't expect that the guild who owns Sabuk have a much worse buff than those who do not own it.
you think a guild with 100 members should get basically the same buffs as a little 10 man guild ?.
you don't need to have a much worst buff, you could bring guild down to a reasonable level and have a better buff, instead its being changed so you get all the benefits of the buff without the sacrifice which was being in a tiny guild.
people in sabuk guild get the exact same buff as everyone else +10 percent from sabuk you just choose to keep 100 members in guild. it should be one or the other you shouldn't get to have 100 members and the best buff simultaneously.
+1 always been the case btw, i really don't like all the changes that been on recently in the server however its Jamie's server and he can do w,e u wants with it, am quieting anyway
Regarding the Sabuk wall buff as a suggestion u can remove Exp Drop buff and leave only the gold + a discount on potions repairs etc in sabuk only for sabuk holders
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Why can't we?
Should the biggest and strongest guild be given the tools to continue being the biggest and strongest not only in terms of being able to over-run anyone else levelling or boss hunting but also be given the biggest boost in terms of bonus EXP, drop and gold buffs?
The idea of the other buffs was to encourage the smaller guilds to get out of SZ, start levelling and hopefully pose a challenge to the Sabuk holding guild. It was also designed to encourage the bigger guilds to break up and form smaller ones to benefit the longevity of the server.
Either way, guilds over 40-45 players should not receive a buff (unless you hold Sabuk) and Sabuk Wall holders should be given the Sabuk Dungeon and quest line that goes with it offering them a private levelling ground, some bosses on each of the 3 to 4 floors and finally the challenge of taking on the Sabuk Lord quest which runs the risk of locking the dungeon for the remainder of the week.
IMO put both of those changes in and you'll not only make Sabuk still worth having but you'll stop all of the QQ around the biggest and strongest guild getting a bigger levelling advantage.
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Thats a lot of ball fondelage going on! Jamie s balls must be very wet!
Agree SW holders should not be made even stronger in any way at all. Bragging rights are enough. I don't mind them having discount in sw for repairs n pots n all. But that should be enough.
I would suggest that guild that holds SW is unable to add anyone else to guild for as long as they hold it.
On this server its SD that swamp the place with numbers. I'd prefer a small group of competent people like curse10 on mir2 servers than a horde of 16+hours a day levellers with hangers on to be dominant.
Players can have a go at a small group cant do much when outnumbered by a gang that contains most of the highest levels on server.
I would suggest that guild that holds SW is unable to add anyone else to guild for as long as they hold it.
On this server its SD that swamp the place with numbers. I'd prefer a small group of competent people like curse10 on mir2 servers than a horde of 16+hours a day levellers with hangers on to be dominant.
Players can have a go at a small group cant do much when outnumbered by a gang that contains most of the highest levels on server.
FWIW I welcome these changes.
Last week when changes were made it was THC that was licking Jamies balls, now these changes have happened it's SD licking Jamies balls.
Get a grip.
Last week when changes were made it was THC that was licking Jamies balls, now these changes have happened it's SD licking Jamies balls.
Get a grip.
Guilds were changed because the first iteration of buffs caused the guilds to be too small which had a negative effect.
Sabuk Remains unchanged since its implementation.
The fact these guild buffs exists actually lessen the importance/value of Sabuk, So I don't understand how this is a benefit to SD.
Sabuk Remains unchanged since its implementation.
The fact these guild buffs exists actually lessen the importance/value of Sabuk, So I don't understand how this is a benefit to SD.
There are a number of people that never seem to be happy no matter what changes are made. I would love to understand what it is that these people really want.
I might set up an anonymous surveymonkey with some questions and see what people are after (only for my own curiosity more than anything as I have no influence in what is done).
I might set up an anonymous surveymonkey with some questions and see what people are after (only for my own curiosity more than anything as I have no influence in what is done).
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This...
Guild Buff Adjusted
- embers 1 ~ 15 = 30%
- Members 16 ~30 = 23%
- Members 31 ~ 45 = 18%
- Members 46+ = 13%
+ Sabuk Buff is why people not happy
So
Would people rather not have buffs at all and SD have a bigger advantage from sabuk?
0% + Sabuk
Is much stronger than
13% + Sabuk
problem is it then gives people with sabuk a very similar buff to people who have sacrificed to be in a small guild for the 30%.
should be a choice between lots of members and a sw buff or very few members and a nice buff. or even 0-20 30%
20-30 20%
30-40 10%
80 member guild shouldn't have a 23% buff while a 10 man guild gets 30% buff.
Anything over 40-45 should be no buff
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13%+ Sabuk that is 23% + Temp buffs 103%, which is the same buff that a small guild from 16~30 will get. Let me remind you that ppl made smaller guild to use this buff advantage but sd chose to stay in numbers to defend sabuk wall and win fights.. After last sabuk comes a patch with this changes.. Anyone not in Sd will complaint and see it as a disadvantage as u gave them Wall+Buff+Numbers
Am not complaining just saying how others see it or at least me
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The amount of ridiculous statements on this thread...
Having Sabuk wall should be something that's attractive, and it definitely wasn't after the last changes.
People commenting on SD "dominance". Have you actually seen the PvP at bosses recently? Sd are strong in numbers, but we certainly do not win all these encounters.
People need to hold back these negative posts and actually provide feedback. Jamie and Shane are clearly trying to improve the server, so it's unfair the way you respond to this.
Either provide proper feedback or find something else to do with your time.
Having Sabuk wall should be something that's attractive, and it definitely wasn't after the last changes.
People commenting on SD "dominance". Have you actually seen the PvP at bosses recently? Sd are strong in numbers, but we certainly do not win all these encounters.
People need to hold back these negative posts and actually provide feedback. Jamie and Shane are clearly trying to improve the server, so it's unfair the way you respond to this.
Either provide proper feedback or find something else to do with your time.
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I think its because they get the 45+ members buff and the Sabuk buff, if the general buff stopped at 45 members and the owners of Sabuk had access to the Sabuk Dungeon and Sabuk Lord quest line it would probably solve a lot of the whines.
Dunno if ur fking blind or what cos i just provided a feedback
Read before u lick plz
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