Important Marble Closure.

Mu online season 21 - grand opening

rayray

LOMCN Veteran
Veteran
May 26, 2011
323
4
45
It wasn't the best set of files but it was the smoothest.

Server was fun while it lasted.

It could have been a very successful server and long reaching within the mir community however between the person behind it and his reputation to decisions and commitment it was doomed to failure.

Hopefully the upcoming server will follow the lessons learned from Marble but that will remain to be seen based purely on who's running it.

Leopard never changes its spot, etc despite how good of a coder within mir he his.

Got to say i played marble and was left with the same taste, great server / fun server but Jamie's attitude is and most likely always will be dreadful.


I actually really really did just wish other bosses dropped them when they was first added.

---------- Post Merged at 02:09 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 02:07 PM ----------



Closest thing to Marble that's ever been is Chronicles and that damn well is nowhere as good as Marble, the delay between spells is the big one that set marble apart from every other server, everything is instant with no fat in between, I should have to stand there for .5 seconds after i cast a spell lol.

I hope your not saying Heroes or before was better? And #C Certainly isn't there yet maybe one day if the right coder works with them.

Matter of opinion i guess i played both and in its day chronicles was the better of the two for me.
 

Pottsy

Legend
Legendary
Feb 26, 2004
3,278
259
309
shame, whenever people ask me what server to play/try always told them Marble is the best, the features/smoothness just uncomparable to other servers.

Unsure as to why you can't run a mir2 and mir (whatever you want to class your new one as, it isn't mir 3.. lol ) server

Lol it's already been discussed at length why interest was lost...why run a dead server, just because he can?

The mistake that caused the downfall is already known, and acknowledged...it wasn't simple lack of interest at all, obviously you lose interest when the server is no longer peaking above 10 users lol...anyone who doesn't is just stubborn, or doesn't care...or really does have that passion for Mir (Personally no passion of mine is going to warrant throwing money away at server costs for 10 users lol).


And I realise there's no real clear definition of what Mir2 or Mir3 is...but if you're using Mir3 images for the Characters/Spells/Interface/Elements etc...then it's obviously going to be Mir3.

Just because it runs 100x better and smoother than any of the previous files to exist, doesn't make it any less Mir3. Some suggestions have been hinting at why it might 'somewhat' look different is because he's using Korean data...and the images MAY have been slightly adjusted, compared to GSP...it's entirely possible considering they are more than capable of editing their own files, but the changes would be miniscule.


I mean Crystal files that he also created, would by your logic not be Mir2 (Nor Marble for that matter).


Anyway, back to topic...it makes no sense to run both servers (Unless both were capable of running at 50-100 users)...this obviously isn't the case, and would do nothing but divide time and resources.
 
Last edited:

Piff1

Legend
Veteran
Apr 17, 2015
2,895
463
145
Africa
There many thing's that killed the server, It wasn't just charms and how they dropped a few people packed and left up and still had a steady 120-150 Usercount on Marble it was when a Tribal member robbed the guild store of Charms / Items and sold to Lkira and Jamie didn't want to get involved was when it went down to like 40-60 users but it was a hard situation for Jamie as so much selling / buying was already going on it would of resulted in giving endless **** back and refunding going left right and centre.. People just say " charms ****ed it " which really isn't the case.
 
  • Like
Reactions: <SOSO>

Xythas

Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
Jan 22, 2017
93
16
35
Chesterfield
Closest thing to Marble that's ever been is Chronicles and that damn well is nowhere as good as Marble, the delay between spells is the big one that set marble apart from every other server, everything is instant with no fat in between, I should have to stand there for .5 seconds after i cast a spell lol.

I hope your not saying Heroes or before was better? And #C Certainly isn't there yet maybe one day if the right coder works with them.

It's personal preference isn't it.

You can't hope I'm not saying anything because it's all based on opinion..

Marble for me was the smoothest but there is something about chrons files i just get along with. It all comes down to preference at the end of the day as i said. Heroes and C# i agree is not up to the standards but I'm not going to shy away from my own opinion either.
 

<SOSO>

LOMCN Veteran
Veteran
Jun 8, 2012
1,041
41
135
There many thing's that killed the server, It wasn't just charms and how they dropped a few people packed and left up and still had a steady 120-150 Usercount on Marble it was when a Tribal member robbed the guild store of Charms / Items and sold to Lkira and Jamie didn't want to get involved was when it went down to like 40-60 users but it was a hard situation for Jamie as so much selling / buying was already going on it would of resulted in giving endless **** back and refunding going left right and centre.. People just say " charms ****ed it " which really isn't the case.

This tbh. He (TryMe) robbed the guildstore, and robbed me personally of 12 charms and armour (which was the only 1 with agil on serv).
 
Last edited:

SkeemaLOM

Loyal Member
Loyal Member
Feb 6, 2017
175
7
30
Should just keep the server online for 8 more years and not add anything then announce your king of mir status on Lomcn. Ah ****, someone beat you to it.
 

Reverance

Final Heaven
Supporter
Veteran
May 25, 2013
1,006
178
130
Scotland
This tbh. He (TryMe) robbed the guildstore, and robbed me personally of 12 charms and armour (which was the only 1 with agil on serv).


The thing is it wasn't even TryMe, it was the moron he gave access to.

Unbroken/Asclepius was the one that did it in the end.
 

WargodSius

Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
Aug 5, 2013
2,380
33
110
The thing is it wasn't even TryMe, it was the moron he gave access to.

Unbroken/Asclepius was the one that did it in the end.

TBF though doesn't the responsibility also lie with him for giving account access to that person?
 

Piff1

Legend
Veteran
Apr 17, 2015
2,895
463
145
Africa
TBF though doesn't the responsibility also lie with him for giving account access to that person?


Without a doubt, any Tribal member with access to that guild store would be stupid to give char access to anybody else was ££££ in that store in charm's from what i heard.

Hella retarded system though should never of had them sort of items / charms in a guild store.
 

ibby

I'm a massive prick
Dedicated Member
Jan 10, 2017
895
151
85
Without a doubt, any Tribal member with access to that guild store would be stupid to give char access to anybody else was ££££ in that store in charm's from what i heard.

Hella retarded system though should never of had them sort of items / charms in a guild store.
That's where trust comes in, but very hard for tht **** lol, better off making a store char tbh
 

kevin87

Night date without obligations, one night only
Veteran
Loyal Member
Sep 11, 2005
757
1
105
gets the smoothest server of the year, but content was too slow/not enough of. RIP wouldnt mind seeing V2
 

ibby

I'm a massive prick
Dedicated Member
Jan 10, 2017
895
151
85
gets the smoothest server of the year, but content was too slow/not enough of. RIP wouldnt mind seeing V2

If marble was a v2... and done properly. It would eat most users tbh.. best set of files, just needs correct handling
 

Piff1

Legend
Veteran
Apr 17, 2015
2,895
463
145
Africa
gets the smoothest server of the year, but content was too slow/not enough of. RIP wouldnt mind seeing V2

How ? Fox got put in exactly 2 month after launch and it was like a boss nobody has ever seen on Mir before only Core and few Egyptians could kill it in small groups for months on end, then Red was coded totally different to any other server again this was a very hard boss that not many could kill when the server had a big user count.

Not to mention there was Mir3 content put in and pretty sure only Tzuk, Skeema etc was only people to complete that.. Was plenty of content as it sat and no doubt if it held the usercount after all the ****ery Jamie would of came with that Mir3 patch a lot sooner.
 

kevin87

Night date without obligations, one night only
Veteran
Loyal Member
Sep 11, 2005
757
1
105
Zircon is v2... feels just like marble

nah zircon is zircon, one of its kind nothing to do with marble as it was mir2 (not everyone thinks zircon is a bigger carrot) its more like the only carrot.

[FONT=&quot]
How ? Fox got put in exactly 2 month after launch and it was like a boss nobody has ever seen on Mir before only Core and few Egyptians could kill it in small groups for months on end, then Red was coded totally different to any other server again this was a very hard boss that not many could kill when the server had a big user count.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Not to mention there was Mir3 content put in and pretty sure only Tzuk, Skeema etc was only people to complete that.. Was plenty of content as it sat and no doubt if it held the usercount after all the ****ery Jamie would of came with that Mir3 patch a lot sooner.

was going too add my two pence about the content u did see was/will never be seen again in terms of AI, the slow release of them was not enough to hold the majority and its all down to jamie is a perfectionist, i think adding the never seen mir3 content before adding cave we seen before like ice temple/dragon swamp/forgotten caves/hell cave would of held people enough to do the big mir3 content update people maybe would of stayed about. as much as people say there was lots to do there wasnt many places to go worth going, until he changed drop files the server was a bore after a few hours. coming from chronicles to marble you would rate marble at 10/10 for smoothness 5/10 for content 10/10 for features and AI. correct me if im wrong.
[/FONT]
 
Last edited:

SkeemaLOM

Loyal Member
Loyal Member
Feb 6, 2017
175
7
30
i found the frequency of updates and patches very high imo from playing many servers people are fickle however, they will always moan about no updates when there is plenty of **** to do in game and content worth killing, then once GM adds a new cave its often literally like 2-3 weeks after red cave was added people were already asking for new maps like lol wtf once the initial novelty wears off it feels like people were actually making excuses to not want to play it ....lack of updates being the biggest excuse imo for a few people (not all)

with the charms thing as F'd up as it was it was the mistake of the player who entrusted the guild storage to someone he met on a game...its basic gaming knowledge u cant trust people you meet on a game like that when they all over friendly, i agreed with GMs decision to not return anythign stolen as why shgould he, GM involvement in those situations just increases the amount of cry pms he will get and increase the time he would have to waste accommodating carebears

had a great usercount at start, the ones who only played for nostalgia slowly got bored as game got harder which always happens on new server openings, then the tribal thign happened and that did kinda ake a chunk of the UC
was still a few of us CORE regulars doing banyo bosses when it was newly added and was good drops but wasnt long after that or around that time i think that ROTA was out i think and people stupidly believed the hype (no offence to GM of there but i didnt see how the files could compete with marbles and splitting the classes up sounds messy to me)

most of the rest of us who stayed on marble was just chilling by that time as jamie himself was playing rota for a while and alot of us had hype over Albion online gettign its long awaited release however albion just didnt quite hit the same mir spot for me, i loved the league of legends style pvp mixed with mir-esque drops and hunts but with all the bugs and downtime it was actually a shitshow.

but yea i really dont get how people can come to assumption that it died from not enough or slow updates. as much as jamie is abit of a dick when it comes to dealing with people and can come across stubborn or unwilling to listen, no one can question his ability or especially his work rate
 

Arngrim

LOMCN Leecher
Jun 25, 2017
1
0
12
Just want to thank you guys for the experience. A casual player I wasn't online a lot with job/family, but playing this server was a good experience with some genuine nice people. thanks!
 

<SOSO>

LOMCN Veteran
Veteran
Jun 8, 2012
1,041
41
135
It was a great server overall, had lots of fun and enjoyed playing it.

If someone reputable comes along and wants to use the files, an arrangement could be made..

I think tht u should've made another attempt @ Marble (v2) but that's just me. Idk who has the knowledge to work on them files better thn u.

Anyways hope all goes well for u with Zircon.


/Geralt