Mineing

[grimlife]

Your spelling and grammar is a joke, get it sorted tbfh......

Really? there are MUCH worse people on this forum, and its just sad you would even post this...... get youself sorted you bum.

mining should give 5 exp per sucessful mine

Getting exp for mining would be bad, the perks of mining are already great, and you can make lots of money doing it.

Only euro had balanced mining, usa went downhill in that regard and its all due to exploitation by unscrupulous players that we can't have good mining experience anymore. :'(

Because if like here, you make it pretty rare to get ore, you shouldn't forget that mining is fairly dull way to play a game and that's why it needs to be more rewarding than if you spent that time killing mobs while leveling. Because at the end of the day, that is less boring and even if you have nothing itemwise to show for it, at least you got some experince behind your belt. In mining if you aren't lucky, you pretty well wasted the time.

I know I never felt that bad while leveling that if I got nothing but experience points for few days, that I would stop doing that. I don't mean those time when you get sick of leveling -.-
But I know that if for several days I didn't have much any luck while mining, I did abandon mining. I don't think your argument stands.

The fact that people are making upto 500k+ of 1 piece of ore isnt enough? people are just greedy and want to get rich fast.
Go boss hunting..... you could kill 50 boss's and get NO drops.
Why should mining be so easy and make people rich in a few days?

 

[Reverance]

Unfortunately mining can be afked just the same as it always could.

Just go to the mines and watch the macros do there work.

 

[grimlife]

i dont think macro mining should be promoted.

Theres a system inplace to stop afk mining, so macro mining should be ban-able.

 

[Reverance]

i dont think macro mining should be promoted.

Theres a system inplace to stop afk mining, so macro mining should be ban-able.

Indeed it should be, Messaged the GMs numerous times and they were going to talk about but nothing said since.

 

[Male]

i dont think macro mining should be promoted.

Theres a system inplace to stop afk mining, so macro mining should be ban-able.

The first comment i remeber being posted after the patch to stop afk mining was "i'll just macro mine" its not new and as most people playing this are hardcore mir fans we all should know about it already.

As for a system inplace to stop afk mining and making macro mining ban-able, macro mining is only being used because afk mining can't be used. Best way to sort this whole issue out that will work for most people is to make the whole of MM a pvp area, no pk points and players WILL hunt afk/macro miners out.

As for the whole "think of the low levels!" **** them. why does a level under 33 really need gems? money thats it and most of the kit they **** they can buy from the damn trash merchant now.

 

[grimlife]

The first comment i remeber being posted after the patch to stop afk mining was "i'll just macro mine" its not new and as most people playing this are hardcore mir fans we all should know about it already.

As for a system inplace to stop afk mining and making macro mining ban-able, macro mining is only being used because afk mining can't be used. Best way to sort this whole issue out that will work for most people is to make the whole of MM a pvp area, no pk points and players WILL hunt afk/macro miners out.

As for the whole "think of the low levels!" **** them. why does a level under 33 really need gems? money thats it and most of the kit they **** they can buy from the damn trash merchant now.

They stoped afk mining because they dont want people doing it, dosnt mean they should find away around it.
its obviously not the way they want the game to be played.....
Making all of MM a contest zone would mean none will mine and everyone will be pked for there ore in bag, it would be non stop fighting with the strongest guild running the place, wouldnt be fair atall.


so ur saying that new players dont deserve to have a chance to save up for there kits? or future kits? as everyone knows hitting lvl 40 is easy, so people dont stay below lvl 33 forever..... so dumb and rude of you to even say tht.
If you want to scare of new players and have a dead server then wtF?

 

[Male]

They stopped afk mining because they don't want people doing it, doesn't mean they should find away around it.
its obviously not the way they want the game to be played.....

Dear god... They stopped afk mining at the same time they limited the number of clients, not because afk mining was an issue but because the amount of people doing it with the stupidly high amount of accounts doing it was going to destroy the server economy.

This is an issue ONLY because a lot of money can be made from mining with little risk, i spent 2 hours hunting iwts and made less then 300k, an hour's mining WILL get me at lest 500k on a damn bad day with a single account doing it. If all the ore from mining was only worth shop value people would stop mining and no one would really care about afk/macro mining all that much.

They stopped afk mining to stop people destroying the games economy not because they don't want people doing it, if they wanted no afk mining in there mir they would have put this in from the start not after this problem popped up.

Making all of MM a contest zone would mean none will mine and everyone will be pked for there ore in bag, it would be non stop fighting with the strongest guild running the place, wouldn't be fair at all.

Yer and more pvp in mir is a bad thing.... As for none mining i would, as would alot of people as tho's who really are mining won't have an issue with being ready to RT quick if they need to but tho's who afk/macro mining? can't program a macro to respond to being attacked. As for the strongest guild running the place don't be stupid, i mean really how many members would it take to police every floor of MM? no guild would have players waste the time doing it and i don't think many plays would be happy to run around MM all day just to make sure some none guild snuck in to steal there ore.

so your saying that new players don't deserve to have a chance to save up for there kits? or future kits? as everyone knows hitting lvl 40 is easy, so people don't stay below lvl 33 forever..... so dumb and rude of you to even say that.
If you want to scare of new players and have a dead server then wtF?

wow... your a retard and you answer your own question with out even thinking about it.

New players saving up for there kit... like what bit? I'll just use war items here i think to point this out,

1. BiH 100k
2. Power Rings 100k
3. xl dc stone 700k

Now the only item i have left off there is a weapon, Mace at 6Mil and WSB at 20Mil but as for the rest of the items just levelling till make you the money you need to buy them even if you are unlucky and don't find anything of worth to sell and like you said making 40 is easy so why would you waste time mining at a low level when you can just wizz right to 40 using stuff from the shop and then go boss hunting.

At that point the new players might start looking at gemming there new kit. How many new players do you know that mine? did you mine to make gems before 40 to make some cash to buy items to destroy the dura on levelling with? like most you more then likely didn't see a need to or just couldn't wait to go boss hunting.

Point i was making is that are REAL new players are not going into the mines at low levels to get plat to gem there rings, there out levelling. The few people who are under 40 and mining plat are thos waiting for sin to come to the server and are just making cash till then, it will be harder for them but since they want to play a sin they must be massive pvp fans so can't moan about going to a pvp area really.

Now as for all thos poor low level miners your talking about.... you mean the level 18/22 ones? wow... funny how most are wars/taos for the added acc or Skelly's when mining and are just at the right level to use a full gale set and sharp bracers, funny that eh? Hint there mining alts and most of them are more then likely macro run as well.

As for me saying new players don't deserve a chance, sorry this is mir.... what game are you playing? its the strongest rule in mir always has been and always will be, hell if i really could be bothered (I'm shocked that no one has yet) I'd power level a mage to 33 pump it full of good MC items and use it purely to rape afk/macro miners in hope of gemming bag drops, in fact I'm sure most people would ignore a red player in MM if all they did was kill afk/macro miners all day long.

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And as you missed what i meant let me try again, from the day they said that they would "stop afk mining" they didn't and i'm shocked they even went down this route as most mir players know about macro mining so when this happened they just jumped over to it and thus stopped nothing.

The point of killing off afk miners was due to there being people with powerful comps running 20+ accounts afk mining for ore compairing that to alot of players here who can only just about run one copy of mir thats a hugh adavantage, its failed massively as now the people who can only run one copy more then likely can't macro mine and want to cut there eyes out having to sit there and watch there toon hit a wall for 30ish seconds and the move it one space to the left over and over so stopped mining and thos with good comps macro mine on 3 accounts.

 

[mir2pion]

The fact that people are making upto 500k+ of 1 piece of ore isnt enough? people are just greedy and want to get rich fast.
Go boss hunting..... you could kill 50 boss's and get NO drops.
Why should mining be so easy and make people rich in a few days?

Well, if it is that easy, why don't more pple mine to get rich fast and easy? The price would plumet if more pple mined, current price is what market sets because pple rather go hunt dozens of bosses than go mining

 

[Male]

Well, if it is that easy, why don't more pple mine to get rich fast and easy? The price would plumet if more pple mined, current price is what market sets because pple rather go hunt dozens of bosses than go mining

You said it ya self, people would rather have the fun of hunting dozens of bosses rather then just looking at a wall and moving onces every 30ish seconds after all it is damn boring! Also the fact that money can't buy you everything, level 36 weapons are becoming a little more common in stalls but 40+ weapons are still a long way off so if ya want one of them you MUST go get it ya self as no one would sell it.

 

[mir2pion]

What makes it not boring is the expectation of striking gold... its like klondike miners for real gold, you have dreams how you strike that pot at the end of rainbow that makes you go on. And if you stop believing that because of long streak of unluck or if its made too rare by gem devs, then pple won't mine. Properly balanced mining is not boring once you get into it, I know this from euro.

 

[Male]

I can't get into in like alot of people its something i do because i want gems but am not willing to pay the amount of money people want for them so i mine, what can i say i'm stubborn!

Given the option i'd rather have the fun of hunting for a boss, finding it, fighting for it and then that rush you get when the loot hits the floor looking for a good item or two among the chaff..... mining is just a steady income no risk and just a slow constant flow of cash, its worth while but i can't do it for to long befor i want to pull my hair out.

 

[FUTURA]

Take out the "no more ore at this location" thing. Its BS if people can get around it using Macros, and even more BS that people who don't know how to use macros will be distinctly disadvantaged. Let people AFK mine, like in Euro. Its happening anyway.

Or at least make it so you can stand at 1 spot for 30 mins/1 hour, so you don't have to click every minute.

 

[Deleted member 20018]

Dura on teh axe runs out pretty fast aswell, so you can't stay there for ever. If people have found a way to "afk-mine" with macros and ****, I don't see any problem removing the <location> thingy.

 

[Male]

The only issue with romoving the need to move and the reason why its such a short time between moving is so that you can't hunt and afk mine at the same time.

 

[mir2pion]

I don't play at the moment but there's another thing which messes up AFKers and that is worthless ore that fills your bag fast and when full you don't get any more ore untill you empty your bag on the floor, was like that on euro. I suppose you could make makro to empty your bag too but anything that helps to make it more complicated is worth implementing.

Ore filling up your bag also gives legit miners something to do to keep them occuppied vs getting bored when little input is needed. I remember keeping middling ore in bag, like pur20 and up and slowly raising the limit when the bag was getting closer to be full with ore 20+, I'd keep pur 24 and higher only... it was a game of maximizing what you take back to town from mining even if that meant only getting some 10s k gold from it, not really worth it, but it gave me something to do while mining.

And speaking of emptying bag on the floor, I hope on this mir the ore stays on the floor like on euro, because when it vanishes upon dropping into thin air like on usa mir (presumably to decrease the load on server) it greatly detracts from mining, its like if when you killed a mob and puff, it would disappear. It was poor decission when the time the mobs and items lay on floor was shortened on usa mir too.

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The only issue with romoving the need to move and the reason why its such a short time between moving is so that you can't hunt and afk mine at the same time.

The message is wrong IMO, time should be kept short but secret how short, to keep some uncertainty and have experienced miners develop judgement or feeling when they should move. That comes only with longer mining experience and it was like that on euro.

Best would be to keep the expiry time random within certain range, say 30s to 120s or something like that.

Othervise I understand your feeling regarding mining but when its well setup and full featured, not stripped of those various small things like droped ore staying on the floor and such like, the mining grows on you if you only do it for several days. :<3

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I used to mine on two accounts, one miner my main high level char and the other noob and the main char was protecting the noob (from mobs and PKers) and funny thing was the low level noob was getting most of the good ore, go figure :'( .,.

Whenever the noob got good ore, I'd transfer that to my main char in case he got killed.