Mining/arrows/efining

[Stormbird]

Plat Ore and BIO drop fairly OK for arrows being considered moderately rare. Most players cannot afford to hunt with the higher tier arrows all the time, mainly just bossing/pk, and though it sucks i think it kind of makes sense, even though casual players dont hav the time to go and mine before hunting and things so just have to use shop arrows. Personally i dont like dual windowing and it shouldnt be a nessecary part of mir to fund your char.

What i am wondering is are the droprates going to be upped when refine and gemming comes in? Having BIO worth 40k and Plat worth 100k when you cant even currently refine or gem just due to the price of arrows shows their demand and i think that refine will put arrow materials out of the majority of archers price brackets. :S

 

[Turrican]

Its definitely something we will consider, the price of ores are likely to rise once gem/refinery is added to the game, but also bare in mind some of the more powerful arrow sets are intended to cost more and currently archers aren't feeling the pinch as much as perhaps they should be creating these due to crafting not being available.

 

[Stormbird]

i agree. i try to craft mine but when mining the arrows takes longer than to us them its a bit demeaning and obsolete =-/ thats why i buy them when i can and only use them if i have to. refining and crafting will just make this 10x worse! im glad that it is going to be looked into.

 

[Exwizz]

Paying 100k for 1 arrow is not fine by me, this also involves like 20-30mins hunting hens for fethers...

We should be able to repair plat/bio arrows with a lesser purity ore or something.

 

[Stormbird]

Thats a good idea about repairing, but then they also run out so you would hav to be uber careful.

 

[Exwizz]

Thats a good idea about repairing, but then they also run out so you would hav to be uber careful.

Yeh thats the thing, they can still disappear.. you just have to watch out for them running out.

 

[The NightAngel]

I think they should stay "rare" or hard to get time wise.
The fact that an archer does great damage with the shop ones then the better arrows are more like a 1hour impact drug. Boosting your dc for awhile.
Buy/find impact
Buy/make arrows

Yeah id like to have them all the time but balance wise i think the time is needed.

 

[Stormbird]

certainly i think time is needed too, but it actually takes longer to mine plat ore than to use up a plat arrow, and this makes them kind of obsolete unless u are loaded and can buy them. i think it should still take time, but maybe 2x the droprate would make them more efficient but still be hard to use for every day levelling 24/7

 

[The NightAngel]

certainly i think time is needed too, but it actually takes longer to mine plat ore than to use up a plat arrow, and this makes them kind of obsolete unless u are loaded and can buy them. i think it should still take time, but maybe 2x the droprate would make them more efficient but still be hard to use for every day levelling 24/7

sounds fair to me, an actual balance between improvment but not becoming overpowered as such.
good effort

 

[kickey]

Poverty archers complain about a 3-8 dc boost for 100k per arrow? 2500 shots?
Whilst we're talking trash add some dc boosts for my sin were I can gain 8 dc for 100k

 

[Stormbird]

When considering how archer and sin spells differ on the way they work, comparing sin to archer with a dc 3-8 boost is impossible unless you calculate how much xp can be gained in an hour solo and go from there. 2500 lasts around an hour, but during 12 hours of mining (on two chars) i recieved 4 platinum ores, three of which were at the right purity. This means you have to mine on average 8 hours for every 1 hour of use.. If for example you head to vipers cave, which is the best place for me to level, a map costs 300k. you want enough arrows for say 6 hours (which i would lke to point out is a short hunt - i have spent 9 hours in vipers and only left because i was sleepy), which is either 600k (and another 250k for feathers) or 28 hours mining (which dont forget is on TWO chars), and another 1 for feathers. 1.15m in monetary value for one hunt is a little insane. Because of those i just us shop arrows, but it would be nice to be able, at level 42, to be able to afford what my char is capable of when im not even scint.

When you are a low level of course platinum arrows are unnecessary as a levelling aid, but when you reach 42+ then they become a little more needed to make the most out of your leveling. I agree they should still be pricey and not easy to obtain, but this system makes them only affordable for those who are much more loaded and puts them at an even higher advantage against those who arnt.