Mirroring tested, bugs and ideas, looking for discussion.

[Far]

For people who can't be bothered to read this poorly worded thread, here's what rainstone expects the mirroring spell to do.

1. Does every spell the player can
2. Move exactly like the player does
3. Have infinite HP
4. Be immune from all damage
5. **** gold

Sounds like official mir missed a trick by only giving it 1 spell, having limited hp, and not making it **** gold.

 

[Varaka]

I think what she was expecting from a lvl 41 wiz skill was more than a shitty light show which kills your mana.

English is not everyone's first language, fair play to her for coming on here to share her experience with the skill.

 

[rainstone]

I know that my English is poor. However, if you can not understand my English well while other people can, it is not my problem. I do not take your first opinion as a personal attack which is not related to the game. You are a lucky man.

I sum up valuable points at the beginning of thread not only from mines, but from others. If you have read, please read carefully.

For people who can't be bothered to read this poorly worded thread, here's what rainstone expects the mirroring spell to do.

1. Does every spell the player can
2. Move exactly like the player does
3. Have infinite HP
4. Be immune from all damage
5. **** gold

Sounds like official mir missed a trick by only giving it 1 spell, having limited hp, and not making it **** gold.

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Thanks for understanding.

I think what she was expecting from a lvl 41 wiz skill was more than a shitty light show which kills your mana.

English is not everyone's first language, fair play to her for coming on here to share her experience with the skill.

 

[Far]

I never said I was referring to your English. I simply mentioned that this whole thread was poorly worded. I take offence that you think I was solely picking out your grammar and making a personal attack.

On topic, why are you comparing Mirroring to Deva at all? Simply because both spells spawn physical monsters, they're nothing a like and are not designed to be comparable in strength or usefulness.

And your Chronicles reference to the mirroring design "create a clone to confuse enemy and add the attack" (or as Chronicles puts it, "foe") - enemy/foe does not mean player, it means monster. Which the mirroring spell does, it confuses monsters so they attack it instead of you.

 

[rainstone]

I think the message is a bit misleading, my bad, I will modify it now.
I think he is making the point, please read his.

I had mirroring on both Euro & GamePotUSA and these are the changes that should be made to match it:-

1.) Mirror does have some AC/AMC on those servers. I don't know the exact figures, I would suggest this is based on a typical L40 Wiz AC/AMC
2.) Damage taken by mirror is equal to 1/5 that amount of MP only, not same amount. E.g. On Euro the guard would do 200 damage for example and my MP bar lost 40MP. This applies to all damage taken, you receive the 20% the damage amount from your MP bar.
3.) Mirroring does not take 18/37MP per shot, it takes MP overtime by reducing your 16-18 second regain. Level 0 reduced it somewhat, Level 1 quite significantly, level 2 made it so you hardly regained anything and level 3 made you lose MP per interval rather than regain it. So levelling it to L3 was a tricky decision
4.) Mirrorings damage increased with level, and this was visible from tests on the trainer. Level 3 did much more than Level 0 did and attacked significantly quicker. Level 0 had a delay which made it slower than a player while Level 3 matched the same speed. Overall levelling made it a huge different to damage output but cost you MP over time.



I did play ACE2M and I noticed mirroring was not the same as Euro in the above ways. The way it took mana per shot was a disaster and a mistake IMO, made it useless for PvE and was not as it was originally. As said it just become this useless PvP crap which I stopped using in favor of an extra pet.

Source: my memory, either everything I have said above is true or I have mental problems and remember fake things that I spent hundred of hours testing on trainer and making notes of in notepads.

Thanks for reply. I am not coming to fight. I am here to discuss.

I never said I was referring to your English. I simply mentioned that this whole thread was poorly worded. I take offence that you think I was solely picking out your grammar and making a personal attack.

On topic, why are you comparing Mirroring to Deva at all? Simply because both spells spawn physical monsters, they're nothing a like and are not designed to be comparable in strength or usefulness.

And your Chronicles reference to the mirroring design "create a clone to confuse enemy and add the attack" (or as Chronicles puts it, "foe") - enemy/foe does not mean player, it means monster. Which the mirroring spell does, it confuses monsters so they attack it instead of you.

 

[Varaka]

As you can see the online dictionary refers to the "foe" as a person twice and an opponent in a game once.
The mirroring does not have magic shield so the only thing ull be confusing is a blind deer in Mizu.

If it was not intended to confuse players the description should just say monster or mob.

 

[Far]

of course the dictionary refines "foe" as a person, why would the dictionary define it as a monster? We don't generally go around killing creatures because they're our enemy in real life.

For the environment of Mir, in that you are fighting enemies (foes) you can generally assume it means monsters - since the game is based on killing monsters, however why define it as purely monsters when its design of mirroring the caster (ie with clothes and items) would also initially fool many players.

 

[Varaka]

ok, good point lol.

Foe is anyone or anything which wants to do you harm and PK plays a huge part in Mir.

Back o topic:

Mirroring is currently not great from the sounds of things, but I like the idea of the new commands and the post Ezrolith made about the GAMEpotUSA tpe of mirroring.

 

[Stoney]

Sam you said mirror cuts through amc, but the mirror cannot flinch or hit any mobs in orcs its really annoying. Can you please check this.

 

[rainstone]

If you can post a picture will be better

Sam you said mirror cuts through amc, but the mirror cannot flinch or hit any mobs in orcs its really annoying. Can you please check this.