Mirroring..

[Koriban]

We was talking about open space situations without monsters, if you lose against a warrior with clone and pets then you sir should quit.

Can said warrior currently use Entrapment on their pets, or their clone?

 

[FROZEN5]

I don't play this server and it's clear there's a few butthurt people here but, going to throw my 2 cents in.

Mirroring isn't supposed to do damage. It really is just meant to 100% flinch the opponent. If it does damage, frankly it should be able to be Entrapmented by warriors. This means they can entrap it, and nuke it and completely destroy their MP. So far I don't think this is possible. (feel free to prove me wrong, as I say I don't play this server)

Entrapment also shouldn't have a level limit aka, it should be usable on any level pet. It's the only counter spell warriors have (lionroar pretty sure doesn't last long enough/puts them in harms way anyway... and the mob comes out of paralysis when hit, so it's completely counter intuitive) against pets.

Doesnt matter if a clone does 100 damage a hit... What good is that with 30 mobs around and a warr/tao on your behind?

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We was talking about open space situations without monsters, if you lose against a warrior with clone and pets then you sir should quit.

How often does that happen though? You cant possibly expect to pvp a wizard with 5 pets and a clone with no mobs around lol. Hell even then you still have a chance to floor them if you get a good hit in . Do you realise how long it takes to tame 5 pets, and how frustrating it is for the wizard to lose them in a pvp?

 

[stephens_l]

Doesnt matter if a clone does 100 damage a hit... What good is that with 30 mobs around and a warr/tao on your behind?

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How often does that happen though? You cant possibly expect to pvp a wizard with 5 pets and a clone with no mobs around lol. Hell even then you still have a chance to floor them if you get a good hit in . Do you realise how long it takes to tame 5 pets, and how frustrating it is for the wizard to lose them in a pvp?

Agree completely, it never happens. If the clone / wizard pets ignored mob agro and went str8 for the target then maybe there may be grounds to complain for its damage to be reduced.. but it doesnt. As they have said in the thead previously its quite easy to confuse with mob agro rendering it / them useless.

I dont think people will be happy until the other classes are subservient to their own. Take away wizards clone damage... (not to mention the fact it rapes mana on its own) and you will no doubt nerf that class to an extent that even at level 49 soloing iwts is a pain...

I at level 49 with 65 mc take at least 5-10 mins per iwt WITH clone. Imagine how long that would be without..? Or is that what is preferred, that wizards only be useful for leveling you warriors and taos up.

Im sure not one of you warriors complaining on here about wizard damage, wizard clone or wizard Tuing boars, wizards levelling too fast etc would be able to say that they havent been levelled by wizards t storming in bdd, zt etc. Yet you are all so quick to come ask for the offensive aspects of the class to be nerfed.

As for the clone in pvp / wanting it to be entrapped, it rapes mp as it is which is why it does decent damage at the moment. You want to be able to pull it to you without having to move...nuke it with the damage that wars are capable of 1v1 ( approx 200-300) with fs etc (i know this as i was with a level 43 warrior yesterday Vs Izt and his 1v1 damage far surpassed anything i could dish out on Izt. Anyway so... once you are able to entrap it im assuming you want to smash our mp to pieces with that single target damage warriors are capable... of then chase the wizard down and mow them into the ground?

Ok sure, lets just make wizards walking levelling machines that people can use to jump up a few levels when they want a break from soloing subs / bosses, its the same old mentality in mir. Everyone wants to be the best, some are more blatent about it than others but the general idea is, have youre character and youre class better than everyone elses.

I just hope the Gms dont listen and leave it the way it is.

 

[Shady]

lol wizzies overpowered? warr can 2 hit me with ease and its not hard to do when im tsing / in a cave or loads of mobs about.

love people crying about warrs , warrs are the best dps class going on a single target and loads of hp , YES you WONT win a wizz 1v1 in an open area but this has always been the case lol.

 

[stephens_l]

lol wizzies overpowered? warr can 2 hit me with ease and its not hard to do when im tsing / in a cave or loads of mobs about.

love people crying about warrs , warrs are the best dps class going on a single target and loads of hp , YES you WONT win a wizz 1v1 in an open area but this has always been the case lol.

Without ff, no way an equivalent level warrior can be killed by a wizard. They just dont have the dps on a single target without that spell.. Unless.... they are in an open space area with no / weak mobs around. Which lets be honest, dont happen..ever.

On the other hand war see s wiz....

Killing iwts/hogs... ooh lets run in and smash em while their shield is down..
Tsing.. ooh lets run in and tdb / fs them from the side and smash em...

(Happened to me on both occasions when i was lower level.. they didnt kill me but came close because I had my finger over the sunpot expecting it..)

Had they had the sort of DC that enables a warrior to 1/2 hit then i probably would have died.

 

[grimlife]

all i see is a bunch of people moaning about nothing or from bias points of view......:P

Both class's have there pros and con's. you cant all be PRO with no CON!:k


i dont see any problems with wizards or warriors they might have there slight bugs but other then that there bloooody fine you cry babys!!!!!!

You dont see the taos moaning this much! and DAM! they have it the worse! they cant 1/2 hit anyone, they cant aoe level they get biatched at for "red poisoning" someone in pvp(my dura my dura get this **** off me now!, is what i see...), they are currently useless in pvp if someone is potting(altho they will pwn you hands down in a non pott fight).................... i think people need to get over themselves and play the cards they have choosen.

If you cant give good feedback/report bugs in a constructive, non bias way then dont bother, your only going to confuse people and end up with an even more unbalanced server...................

as ive said in another thread before!
If this is how much your all crying now, how on earth are you gonna handle the implementation of the assassin's and archers??:lol

 

[WildGirl]

all i see is a bunch of people moaning about nothing or from bias points of view......:P

Both class's have there pros and con's. you cant all be PRO with no CON!:k

That.

Also once a wiz has clone out a decent war can do this: use Entrapment to pull clone -> hit it several times hard -> Wizard has 0 mp needs to sun pot if he wants shield up -> repeat (if no other solution)

Jeeeeez.

 

[d1craig]

In all honesty I have never played a server where the wizard clon did so much damage.

By saying that I always thought clone was useless and neede a damage upgrade.

 

[Skepta]

As koriban said Mirroring was made for flinch its only meant to hit between 5-10 damage literally next to nothing.. But this wont get sorted but just saying. /NoPk

 

[grimlife]

As koriban said Mirroring was made for flinch its only meant to hit between 5-10 damage literally next to nothing.. But this wont get sorted but just saying. /NoPk

I dont think this is correct.

Isnt your clone supposed to be a clone with the same MC..... and your kit will dictate what MC/damage your clone does.

So if you have a high MC, your clone will have the same MC giving it the ability to hit the same damage.

However! i will add.
I dont rember Clones having the ability to use FD, ive always thought they where only be able to use Tbolt, but it dosnt really matter, its nice to see clones using FD

I just see another warrior troll thread :lol

That.

Also once a wiz has clone out a decent war can do this: use Entrapment to pull clone -> hit it several times hard -> Wizard has 0 mp needs to sun pot if he wants shield up -> repeat (if no other solution)

Jeeeeez.

+1 its not rocket science is it

Tbh shouldn't of told them that, warriors that utilise all there skills are the clever/skilled ones

One massive problem i see, is that warriors do not make use of all there skills, there all to happpy to whining and moan about stuff rather then putting in the effort and using there brains.

 

[WildGirl]

Well, wizzies can simple counter that tactic and save the mp/sun pots. Don't take clone out vs warriors :PP

Case closed .

 

[knives]

doesnt matter if a warr entraps clone, just un summon it re summon it warr has wasted his time, ive made many warrs piss of and leave me alone in this manor