Moaning, Crying, Wizards and other classes.

Maxiburn

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I would like to know this from all classes, how much gold do you spend per hunt, how long dose your hunts last. I am a Warrior and i take 50 HP Lrg, 180 MP Med and my hunt lasts about 45mins or so in PT.

Just curious on how expensive each class is to level.

As for Warriors in total, they are ok'ish i suppose but really expensive to level, this is why am asking this question, am at the point were i just cannot be arsed going BC or ST again to gold farm, rather just make a new class to do it.

well as a lv 27 tao I did the kill 150 bigapes quest, took me just under 5 hours for 1 trip, could have lasted longer but was so fed up it took so long, I never have to buy pots just a few poisons and ammies, I made 110k found a pearl neck n life neck too
 

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Assassins – I don’t even know how to begin or how to explain here, before hand assassins had 8 ACC on USA and other private servers as a bog standard no ACC boosting skill and even at that had absolutely no problems destroying everything and anything super fast, of course back then they had to wear more acc items which actually made acc items useful and less DC. However here with more ACC than a warrior and nearly equal DC I can’t even fathom the thought, I made one here to see if they changed something else to compensate for the high ACC but ended up getting to level 30 in less than 1 day since there Ubers and fly through mobs (rankings also speaks for itself) Yet I see a few of these moaning why is it the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] and 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] joint place classes moaning about how hard it is to level kill when they destroy every boss and mob fast, if its cause u get killed PVP its cause you lack skill nothing else, Also I am aware you have lower health but when u kill 8 times faster you really should have no need to moan since I bet a warrior goes though about 10 times more HP than you since there attack speed and killing time is slower, Also you MP usage here is a ton better than it should be to before you try all that jazz.

Now try kill something that has any sort of defence.


I'd rather have my DoubleSlash ignore defence and have 8 Accuracy (Like on USA) then the way it is now. we stuggle to kill anything that has anything above AC 30
 

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Retard of the day award goes to the person who started this thread!
 

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Wouldnt even bother replying to this guy. Makes a rant post making out hes Mir Elite and have played each class up to 42, when in reality hes probs lvl 30 tao and hasnt done **** all.

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Wizards – fantastic characters, if played correctly, always have been. Yet they still moan about everything for no real reason, be it health, pets, mp usage, TU, damage in fact pretty much anything.
Sorry wizards have no real reason to moan back on 56k u got a 2hour disconnect no option and no decent pets to choose from except for tongs and black maggots, yet wizards still made it to 40 no problems at all with horrible EXP horrible pets by today’s standards and less spells as well as lower mp pots regeneration and dearer price, you now have great spells cheaper mp and fantastic pets in fact crazy good pets, yet you somehow find a reason to moan about them. Most good wizards don’t even use pets they use firewall and lightning, so stop moaning about pets and everything else you have the joint 1[SUP]st[/SUP]/2[SUP]nd[/SUP] best class in game. Also the ranking boards kind of gives a guide to how easy they are to level.
I basically shouldve stopped here because this proves you are clearly an attention seeking clueless asshat.
Do you honestly think thats if firewall and lightning or TU were viable options to solo level then there would be this much who ha about pets?

I'll tell you shall i lord of mir, the new MOB ai means that mobs do NOT chase you in a straight line one behind each other... they go side by side in 3's usually meaning you cannot succesfully firewall and lightning without.. getting hit... using a **** load of mana or losing half of your lure.

TU uses a digusting amount of MP and its failure rate has been upped meaning you could do about 5% a hunt TU'ing rats at what? 35-40?

Pull your head out of your ass you may have been a super nerd on other servers it doesnt mean you know **** here... this thread was boring.
 

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Wizards - stop moaning (before you get nerfed)
Assassins - stop moaning (before you get nerfed)
Warriors - Do as you please
Taiosts - We know you take time to level but its worth it just ride through it.
Archers - Not sure just yet.


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Can i just check before i cause any offence, do you have a learning difficulty? if so please stop reading now as its really not your fault.

You are retarded, you are basing alot of your opinion from previous versions of the game. you clearly have little or no experience playing this version.
Warriors will never become obsolete to the assassin. pradominatley because they can 1 hit an assissin but theres much more to it that you wont comprehend so i wont waste my time saying. so please move over and let another brown nose through.

you mention fwall lightning a couple of times. the AI on here allows mobvs to approach you across a 4 square attack instead of falling in line. so that tactic is difficult to pull off, espeically solo. that is why all wiz are using pets so much and moaning about the tame time. because they are being FORCED into using them, unlike every other version. (im not saying thats good or bad, but forcing someone to use pets could then maube need a pet overhaul.

Taos don level slow. they tend to be faster than archer and more capable than any casual wiz players (without time to pet about) try playing one on this version...

the more im typing the more i realise your just making a post to get your name out and im helping by replying....
you are a muppet and havnt got a clue.
you are now known as a retarded fool. congratulations.
 
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Taoists – as well as pvp any other class if not stupid.


erm, you tried a lvl 38 Tao with max spells UE up and tried to pvp a warrior? SFB is **** on this server, pets (skellys/shinnys) are probably the worst I have used on any server except Euro mir. 2 lvl 7 skellys, and I can kill 2 boars before they collectively can kill a black maggot, they are ****. THERE IS NO WAY A TAO CAN EVEN THINK ABOUT PVP WITH A WARRIOR.
Im not saying that a Tao should be able to pk a warrior, but it is not even an option on this server, they have been 'made' a support class.
 

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I had a 118 sin on mir2usa, my dc was 100+, acc 20, speed 24,agility 34 lol. Skills work differently ere, flash dash isn't as good for pvp, moonlight doesn't make u invisible, swift feet doesn't make u run double speed. Im not whining I enjoy playing my sin ere but they are more boss orientated than pvp id say on this server.
 

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No diss to USA but running double speed sounds abit silly? lol

Servers iv played with sins SF has been an Agility buff, afaik.

Sins have always been PvE focused also.

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people need to stfu and play the game.

Every class on here does its job as it should.

Anyone complaining is trying to get an unwarranted buff.

I've not seen any top end players complaining about their class yet.

hi wond
 

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People need to stfu and play the game.

Every class on here does its job as it should.

Anyone complaining is trying to get an unwarranted buff.

I've not seen any top end players complaining about their class yet.

+1

A warrior is far better for pvp. Hunting high end bosses. Double the hp. Tdb every hit. Down side tdb costs killing trash mobs slower then sins.

id swap a 44 warrior for my 45 sin all day long lol

I would happily swap my 41 warrior for your 45 sin if you'd be up for that? Because I'll be the one laughing when Swiftfeet and shadowstep are more common. 90% ofSin players here are a joke and quite frankly, **** - including you. You recently just had a serious buff to a spell and I've seen ONE or TWO assassins, maximum, use this spell to their advantage in pvp. Figure it out you, use that head of yours.

The reason everyone thinks warriors are "so great" atm is because they have pretty much all their pvp spells besides rage. They're effectively done with TDB and Flamesword.

Wait until wizzies start getting FlameField, blizzard, metstrike.

Sins start getting swiftfeet, shadowstep, darkbody.

Archers start getting Arrowbarrage, Piercing shot.

Taos start getting Curse, Poison cloud.

THEN moan to me about balance.

Sick to death of trash tier players thinking their class needs a buff when we have yet to see barely anything power wise late game from these classes.
 

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you mention fwall lightning a couple of times. the AI on here allows mobvs to approach you across a 4 square attack instead of falling in line. so that tactic is difficult to pull off, espeically solo. that is why all wiz are using pets so much and moaning about the tame time. because they are being FORCED into using them, unlike every other version. (im not saying thats good or bad, but forcing someone to use pets could then maube need a pet overhaul.

Finally someone with some brains. As NA has stated, the reason there is so much "crying" about wiz pets is the fact that fw+lightning is no longer a viable tactic due to the new mob AI, this forces wizzies to use pets as a much more integral piece of their kit. The old taming/pet lvling system was sufficient when pets were much less valuable, but it certainly needs a rework now.
 

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so a warrior that can tank other classes damage and 2 hit them needs a boost and wiz are best char ingame o.O got it
 

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As a wizard, i can burn easily over 250 L MP TSing in PT, ontop of 50 L HP if im without a tao. 20 or so with. This is also with another wizard, obviuously.I tend to run out of mana long before any boss if we clear the whole way.Someone said on another thread wizards are richest class. Personally never had over 1.5m lol and iv not bought anything other than FD from TM yday.x
+1I would happily swap my 41 warrior for your 45 sin if you'd be up for that? Because I'll be the one laughing when Swiftfeet and shadowstep are more common. 90% ofSin players here are a joke and quite frankly, **** - including you. You recently just had a serious buff to a spell and I've seen ONE or TWO assassins, maximum, use this spell to their advantage in pvp. Figure it out you, use that head of yours.The reason everyone thinks warriors are "so great" atm is because they have pretty much all their pvp spells besides rage. They're effectively done with TDB and Flamesword.Wait until wizzies start getting FlameField, blizzard, metstrike.Sins start getting swiftfeet, shadowstep, darkbody.Archers start getting Arrowbarrage, Piercing shot.Taos start getting Curse, Poison cloud.THEN moan to me about balance.Sick to death of trash tier players thinking their class needs a buff when we have yet to see barely anything power wise late game from these classes.

merged into one?
 
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You cant counter being 2 shot when your a toe to toe class. Sure agilty helps lower the chance of being 2 shot by 15%. Sin for me is my trash mob sub killing machine. Like ive said ive rerolled and already killed a sin 10 levels above me in 2 hits.

As ive said you cant counter 2 hits mele vs mele

I have probably one of the best warr kits in-game, I do not 2hit even with a max Flamesword/TDB an equal levelled sin unless he's red poisoned or yellow poisoned. Which means my damage is 20% higher than it should be so you are exaggerating. So lets assume 3hits to be absolutely safe and I can agree with this.

Now, I see you've grasped what I'm talking about. Have you actually tried using 2 agil bracers and using the spell at the same time? probably not.

The results are as follows: Warr with 17 accuracy will miss almost every single hit on a sin. 1 in about 4 hits, actually connect. This means the warrior is forced to carry around sharp bracers in his bag, making his accuracy 21 and assuming just simple DeathGauntlets, losing a minimum of 2-4DC or higher depending on how good your DC gloves are.

Now remember, warriors are burst damage. So they rely on top end DC far more than a sin does to kill someone.

At which point a sin will now dodge roughly one-third attacks by a warr but said warrior now has to really hope for a top-end TDB hit to connect... 3 times.

Meanwhile a sin will never miss a hit on a warrior. Ever. FlashDash>instant yellow>doubleslash all while the warrior with his 0 a.speed is failing to hit you.

Please, before you preach to me how your class is bad, at least learn to use your class properly first.

Thanks.

You mention oh wait tll wiz has FF/met strike taos Curse etc but considering the server has been up for 2 months we have not seen a single one of these spells yet were talking about years literally until most average/good players but not 14 hour a day geeks are going to be attainable in that time majority will quit due to boredom not having any new interesting spells to use.

At the rate of speed in which Sam is giving updates and turrican is stealth-updating drops from bosses, I theorize that by patch 2.0, these spells will start to become much less rare.

Patience is a virtue.
 
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Wait until wizzies start getting FlameField, blizzard, metstrike.

Sins start getting swiftfeet, shadowstep, darkbody.

Archers start getting Arrowbarrage, Piercing shot.

Taos start getting Curse, Poison cloud.

THEN moan to me about balance.

Sick to death of trash tier players thinking their class needs a buff when we have yet to see barely anything power wise late game from these classes.

You mention oh wait tll wiz has FF/met strike taos Curse etc but considering the server has been up for 2 months we have not seen a single one of these spells yet were talking about years literally until most average/good players but not 14 hour a day geeks are going to be attainable in that time majority will quit due to boredom not having any new interesting spells to use.
 

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its just maths
You cant counter being 2 shot when your a toe to toe class. Sure agilty helps lower the chance of being 2 shot by 15%. Sin for me is my trash mob sub killing machine. Like ive said ive rerolled and already killed a sin 10 levels above me in 2 hits.

for pvp against warriors that can tank sins as we hit with AC your main stat point. lets face it in your normal hunting kit you probably have Ac 40. my sins dc is 50 in pure dc kit. if i luck hit and your max defense kicks in ill only be hitting you with the dc i have left 10. were you on the other hand have also dc 50 in the same kit for example and can still 2 shot 350 hp regardless of my defense or agility.( agility is only a chance).lets wait until you get dc 100 my hp is still going to be less then 400 even if im level 48. 1 tdb with poison will do 200+ then the flamesword will do 320. how do you counter those numbers? while im hitting for 40 due to your profield and standard high ac kit trying to beat down your 800hp
 

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its just maths
You cant counter being 2 shot when your a toe to toe class. Sure agilty helps lower the chance of being 2 shot by 15%. Sin for me is my trash mob sub killing machine. Like ive said ive rerolled and already killed a sin 10 levels above me in 2 hits.

If your rolling sin you need to have +20hp in every slot you can.

/Xele