so how do i actually beat the warriors ac? which will be probably 60+ endgame or a month into path 2.0? vs my hp runed kit. giving me an extra 200 hp. will just be 1 more hit and the warrior will just laugh
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so how do i actually beat the warriors ac? which will be probably 60+ endgame or a month into path 2.0? vs my hp runed kit. giving me an extra 200 hp. will just be 1 more hit and the warrior will just laugh
Bare in mind we haven't seen swiftfeet (when activated, sins essentially have MirBoots effect until time passes, lasts around 30secs iirc) which is going to be sins most devastating spell for pvp yet. For those unclear, you flinch, but you keep running when hit. You never walk. Ever. If I am a wizzard or an archer or a tao, I am going to be scared shitless of a sin with this spell.
Lets also swipe aside the fact you're already the highest dps class in the game (due to haste giving capped a.speed) and can green poison any mob/boss you please by yourself. (The rankings for level already show this)
So your PvE is godlike. I think any sin will agree with this. You by far deal the most damage to a boss providing you have enough suns to tank its damage, or another person there to share the damage.
Your PvP without swiftfeet, admittedly, isn't amazing - just average. But lets consider what happens when you do get swift feet. Any ranged class is now ****ed, when a decent sin gets a hold of this spell. For the duration of swiftfeet, no matter what they do to you, you're still going to get next to them and kill them.
On TOP of screwing over almost all ranged classes (lets be real, nobody will ever beat a decent tao 1v1 with pets but maybe a sin just might do it with all their spells available) you now also want to be able to out-pvp a warrior?
Don't you think you're asking for a bit much? The fact you already have a 30% chance or a 80% chance (depending on if the warr has any accuracy with them on hand or on kit) to dodge a warriors attacks is pretty damn good.
I just think you've misunderstood the entirety of your class, or obviously haven't seen the beta videos of sins with swiftfeet.
Lets also swipe aside the fact you're already the highest dps class in the game (due to haste giving capped a.speed) and can green poison any mob/boss you please by yourself. (The rankings for level already show this)
So your PvE is godlike. I think any sin will agree with this. You by far deal the most damage to a boss providing you have enough suns to tank its damage, or another person there to share the damage.
Your PvP without swiftfeet, admittedly, isn't amazing - just average. But lets consider what happens when you do get swift feet. Any ranged class is now ****ed, when a decent sin gets a hold of this spell. For the duration of swiftfeet, no matter what they do to you, you're still going to get next to them and kill them.
On TOP of screwing over almost all ranged classes (lets be real, nobody will ever beat a decent tao 1v1 with pets but maybe a sin just might do it with all their spells available) you now also want to be able to out-pvp a warrior?
Don't you think you're asking for a bit much? The fact you already have a 30% chance or a 80% chance (depending on if the warr has any accuracy with them on hand or on kit) to dodge a warriors attacks is pretty damn good.
I just think you've misunderstood the entirety of your class, or obviously haven't seen the beta videos of sins with swiftfeet.
Thread starter is completely clueless lol Wars are by far the strongest class and melee rules the server, no other class can Deal or tank anywhere near as much damage as wars do now and this is still with very low DC wait until they have 90/100 dc and luck on their weps its only going to get worse and wars more powerful, the toggle slaying off change was the most damaging and unbalanced thing they could have done to PVP constant TDBS every hit Meanwhile high tier wiz/tao/sin/arch spells will be mega mega rare not much chance for average to good players to be able to get them while all a war needs is TDB and FS maybe don't even need FS now because every single hit is TDB hit.
at present with agility 30 vs acc 20. 2 in 3 hits will hit. where is this 80% miss coming from? i need to have agility 100 and you acc 20 to equate to 80% miss. its not really that much of a buff
i get and understand my class very well. trash mobs and subs no problems. which is the same for any class. for example archers kill Webs alot faster then sins, due to acc issues. Bosses, players with high Ac even mobs with high ac = a massive issue for sins on here. we do very little damage on jinchon mobs for example which have ac 30+ where warriros rip through them, i watch justin bieber do so.
swift feet will be great for class i dont toe to toe. which is in my opinion not the issue were talking about. its the issue that a warrior is tank and spike/dps all rolled into one which fks every class made even worse so against the sin which has to toe to toe
i get and understand my class very well. trash mobs and subs no problems. which is the same for any class. for example archers kill Webs alot faster then sins, due to acc issues. Bosses, players with high Ac even mobs with high ac = a massive issue for sins on here. we do very little damage on jinchon mobs for example which have ac 30+ where warriros rip through them, i watch justin bieber do so.
swift feet will be great for class i dont toe to toe. which is in my opinion not the issue were talking about. its the issue that a warrior is tank and spike/dps all rolled into one which fks every class made even worse so against the sin which has to toe to toe
Just like your not going to hit top DC every hit (unless max luck obviously), a warrior will not hit top AC every hit.
/Xele
ok here is the example that you will understand as you play a wiz mainly
fighting a tao with amc the same as your Mc. Result you wont do **** to it.
Kinda pointless talking to someone who's already blindly fixed their mindset on what they need to do. Play a warrior, then. That seems to be your class. If I see you in a few months time crying that a wizz or tao with high MC or SC is destroying your no-amc class, I'll laugh at you and quote this thread.
The pvp "cycle" of balance is already set in-game imo. You just want your class to beat everything. As does everyone who is asking for buffs to their class atm. No class needs buffing right now and imo no class needs nerfing right now.
Give it a few more months, eh?
I've already started making different classes and levelling them up in preparation for late game. If you're going to swear by one class forever, then you need to accept the fact that there's some classes you just won't beat.
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im blinding by the fact that were in shop kits and 1 class is being 2 shot by a class that is ment to be more tanky and less DPs. in 2months time it will be even worse/
well i hope a wiz or tao with pc/ff wont 2 shot a equal level sin tao or archer because that is broken beyond reason
I usually play a tao to be fair right now, no other geeks in guild willing too, and I can tell you from my own witnessing that ToriBlack can kill any high level warrior in a fight.
/Xele
higher lvls with better mc/lvl 3 ff wiz will deffo 2 hit archers/sins maybe even taos of the same lvl
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hate to say it but ur talking ****. any warrior that isn't slow(playing on a dishwasher) as fcuk or fully retarded can kill any sin ingame without moving 1 step. if i was playin on war i wudnt even waste my time chasing a sin , just tank boss wait on him to attack and drop him in 2-3 hits. :'( . i quit game + sin because of how fail they are and i cba rerollin tbh.
i said this all before...nothing was done about it, also for pve fire / banshee cant be counting as an example of how sins are...these men are major geeks...they started weeks after server came up and past every1 pretty effortlessly.
#getajob :lol
Yes mate started 3 or 4 days ago only played a few hours, Possibly got 2 others to start as well.
I'll PM you in-game mate
There is plenty of people that fight us at Oma King and BDD and they can probably confirm that Tori's damage is insane, doesn't matter what class you are, even a warrior.
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most ppl obviously have done, ive seen u nerds doin 12hours stright in pb :/ dno how ur bothered.
take tori to contest room and take a GOOD war of the same lvl record that pvp for 30mins then come post it, all ur gona see is tori layed flat out with dem legs spred. if he manages to kill the war once then the war is useless or tori's a hero.
Assassins thrive much better vs warrior where there is mobs and not contest room, nearly all PvP happens in caves.
The fact that they totally changed the way warr/sin's pvp doesnt help.
Feels like a bag of ****.,
Feels like a bag of ****.,
I agree, nothing needs changing as yet. Its still early days let the server settle. Wiz if anything is the weaker class atm but most of their best skills are yet to come. And no1 seems to be mentioning archers, they hurt like fk lol