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[Insinia123]

ok so the last thread was flamed so much about sw before i could even post so have made a new to detail the idea.

first this is not a thread about sw and tbh i couldn't care less about sw its fine how it is why give one guild an unfair advantage over all the others just because they can mass recruit.....

so back to the idea

i dont know how many here have played guild wars 2 so will add videos to help explain this

in guild wars to they have a pvp area called world vs world

what we would like is for a similar system to be added here

in world vs world you work as a grp to beat the enemy group and take there keep over time building up on points untill the reset

now i know again on mir one guild could mass recruit and dominate this so mine and ivors idea is instead split the people who enter this map into random groups could be 4or more groups in total these would be partly teams of players (friends entering together) and randoms so not to give one team an advantage over another.

another option is to split the players who enter and they will stay in the same group for one week it is then reset and u are moved to another group of randoms

with regards to kit a player when enters gets a standard pvp kit they cannot use there own gemmed/added items so every one has a fair chance the play would also be lvled to a certain level which everyone would be the same.

now as for drops the player would not drop kit/break stones instead they give a little amount of exp and gold with the possibility of dropping a token.

these tokens can be used to buy pvp kit. this can be a few options for example a warr could buy a high ac low dc kit, high amc low dc kit, a high dc low ac/amc kit or a balanced kit.

the player would also build up points for each kill they get to go onto a ranking system the winner of the week or month say top 3 players each receive a prize this could be gold, a non pvp item or a special pvp item towards a different pvp kit.

now to stop people abusing this point system have an afk kick out say no movement and spells after 5 mins you are booted anyone who kills the same player over a certain amount of times and in a certain time frame will be booted until reset other options could be available

now as for the objective your team is required to capture X amount of bases and defend them the longer you own them the more points your team gains at the point of reset the team with the most points could receive a few pvp tokens or another suitable prize.

to capture a base you are required to break thro either a wall or door and defeat the base guardian and any members of the opposing team at that point you need to hold the base for X amount of time for it to reset (walls or doors are rebuilt) and becomes your teams area.

now you could add some mobs in the map and have some random quests for exp or gold/tokens ect

it doesnt have to be an exact copy of GW2

but it would improve the pvp side of the server also give people a safe place to practice working as a team and pvping.


i will add more to this but for now have a look comments welcome just not about SW this is not a SW thread.

here is a link to a vid on WvW yes its like 20mins long its just to give you an idea of what they do and there are plenty of others available this is just first i found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuukNJFxr0E

 

[SmavidDavid]

Hijack another persons thread and remake it, classy.

Flaws:

• People cannot be bothered to remove kit to be given a standard kit daily/weekly its a pointless chore.(im 90% sure there is no way to create a script to auto change peoples kits/replace items during the hunt due to diversity of items & stats)
• People work as a group.. why would they want to work against their friends? Also the 'random' group idea would fail if you had suckish people all time.
• it WILL be exploited

All you have done is rebadged a LMS/SW combo with a style of PVP from another server.

The reason last post went onto SW as mainly.. most PVP' happens there... The idea of last post was to boost PvP. People all thought SW would be a good way to do this as its a well known feature. Exactly same as WvW... you fight to win a prize.. just on mir the prize is presented in the form of a brick wall with no bonus.

The idea of a group war system is good.. until you have a mass recruit guild going in wiping everybody out & then picking a different group each time to win....


If you really want a PvP system that works the team will have to put ALOT of time coding it in properly which lets face it.. is deffo at bottom , as when its exploited people will give up. Which is why SW (again..) is a good feature as its just a brawl.

Any system implemented apart from Guild Vs Guild will be exploited. Then due to server count it'll be down to the biggest recruiter unfortunately (although numbers don't mean didly squat)

If you can think of a valid.. PvP System which cannot be exploited then i will retract my statement that SW is the only easy efficient way to boost PvP via events.


A general feature to implement would be a kill chart, again could be exploited.. but maybe exclude guild members. Which would spur on a competition, but could be exploited im sure.

• Most Pk's
• Sub cat 40+
• Sub cat 30+
• Most PK deaths (pumpkin hum effect around head for top 10)
• Assists (not sure how you'd do this)
• Greatest PK of higher levels

 

[FROZEN5]

Hijack another persons thread and remake it, classy.

Lol pretty much.

 

[Insinia123]

I haven't hijacked it at all I was asked by mrmcd to expand on his idea for him which I have done. I also do not appreciate you going on about waste of time sw when this idea is so much bigger than that....

in relation to having to replace kit weekly I did not mean this at all I ment you get a standard kit to start with and over time you collect tokens to purchase a new kit of your choice.

And as you said a guild can mass recruit to win this is not the case due to adding the random group member feature so that you are grouped with some of your friends but not all... Yes you have a chance of having a bad grp but as the groups reset every week or every other week it wouldn't matter.

If you want to bang on about sw go make your own thread instead of spamming mine

 

[Kamikaze]

Said guild would all join then whichever team had most of guild the others in other team would log out or tt. Just like mircraft on Mir 3

 

[Male]

Sounds like you want battle grounds and arena adding to mir from a very famous mmo.

Has PvP ever really been in mir tho? Lets face it the reason to fight and kill in mir has always been for something be it a boss or just because of some sort of drama.

 

[Agro]

I like this idea it could be a good feature although i think it would be better to have random groups and no one being able to grp with your friends if you end up on there team then thats just the luck of the draw.

Also think maybe teams could change every 3 days, you could have to register your interest via an npc then on the 3rd day the teams get published on a board so you can see who you have on your side.

Make it 40+ so people dont put noobs in and **** it all up.

Edit - Why would people leave just because they're not with there mates, if there is nothing to lose IE no kit to drop then there is nothing to worry about and surely that will just add to the banter of it all if you drop a couple of your mates.

 

[Insinia123]

I like this idea it could be a good feature although i think it would be better to have random groups and no one being able to grp with your friends if you end up on there team then thats just the luck of the draw.

Also think maybe teams could change every 3 days, you could have to register your interest via an npc then on the 3rd day the teams get published on a board so you can see who you have on your side.

Make it 40+ so people dont put noobs in and **** it all up.

Edit - Why would people leave just because they're not with there mates, if there is nothing to lose IE no kit to drop then there is nothing to worry about and surely that will just add to the banter of it all if you drop a couple of your mates.

Agree have a min level so people can't exploit using noobs.

And this is my point so what if your not on your mates team it's all still fun means you get to pk your mates for free and have a laugh.

The teams changing that could be a work in progress see what works best three days weekly two weekly ect

 

[boothy]

would also need to make it so it puts people onto group attack when they teleport in and make it so they can't change modes and pk their own team for their friends, and make it so they can't leave group either until the pvp has ended.. dunno if this has been mentioned haven't read all the thread..

and yeah, if this does get added make the teams random cause 2 groups will just teleport in together and exploit it in the end

could also use the football map that is probably already in the database, seen it on a few servers before so not sure. you could have a capture the flag type thing where there is an item in the middle of the map and you have to pick it up and run it into the enemys goal on the opposite side of the map to score a point for your team.. and when the item is picked up the person that has it has a symbol appear above their head and drop the item when they die..

but yeah, some new stuff for pvp should be added down the line when all the bugs etc are fixed, could be a few months but i guess the server will still be around by then

 

[WildGirl]

would also need to make it so it puts people onto group attack when they teleport in and make it so they can't change modes and pk their own team for their friends, and make it so they can't leave group either until the pvp has ended.. dunno if this has been mentioned haven't read all the thread..

If the "own team pkers" really want they can grief with ease without even the need for attacking (like stay in front of ur own team m8s or just stay away and do nothing).

 

[boothy]

If the "own team pkers" really want they can grief with ease without even the need for attacking (like stay in front of ur own team m8s or just stay away and do nothing).

same as every other game with PK then really isn't it.. you always get afkers/leavers and people doing nothing.. at least you won't have your own team attacking you

 

[Insinia123]

End of the day people will exploit what ever and if they do nothing to say a gm couldn't punish them for this say ban them from the area for x amount of time or the game ect.