no assassins have bothered to master refine

[SilvaRoberto]

Looked through the rankings and there so many maces with + 15/20 holy etc and wizards with +20 wind staff etc and so on with taos etc.

but not one sin has gone for it (from what i can see)

server has bigger problems right now but its very odd that no one sees it as worth?

say you max level a mace and want to add +5 holy there is literally NO risk it will add +5 or do nothing

 

[Shane/Banshee]

Flame splash uses AE fire
dragon repel uses AE lightning
personally I’d go dc 15 and go AE lightning to repel in pvp.

also sins at current levels only use mana, some are starting to see the full effect of dc now that luck 1 is 10% chance to hit max, so luck 5 is very good.

 

[UnluckyXIII]

Looked through the rankings and there so many maces with + 15/20 holy etc and wizards with +20 wind staff etc and so on with taos etc.

but not one sin has gone for it (from what i can see)

server has bigger problems right now but its very odd that no one sees it as worth?

say you max level a mace and want to add +5 holy there is literally NO risk it will add +5 or do nothing

Most Sin damage comes from Lotus skills, so the added element doesn't have much effect, tbh we can rock a Pick Axe with the extra Attack Speed and that's more beneficial than using a Lv.38-49 weapon... so yeah maybe it does seem a little broken, personally the Lotus Skill equation needs to factor in DC somehow so using a weapon and having DC kit does make a difference to the overall damage.

 

[Pottsy]

Looked through the rankings and there so many maces with + 15/20 holy etc and wizards with +20 wind staff etc and so on with taos etc.

but not one sin has gone for it (from what i can see)

server has bigger problems right now but its very odd that no one sees it as worth?

say you max level a mace and want to add +5 holy there is literally NO risk it will add +5 or do nothing

Correction.

Only Warriors will see the profit of it because of the 44 armour drops, other classes will need to buy them mostly.

Wizards +20 staffs are stemming from the basic refine process (Numa Mage starts with +5 and +15 from the refines, make 20). Some also tend to reset etc.

Sins don't have much use for Element really, judging by the feedback i hear every now and again.

You might catch the odd person here and there doing the MR, but it's almost not worth the gold it will take to buy the 44 armours and Rank3 Fragments.

 

[SilvaRoberto]

so element has 0 affect on briar bloom and lotus spells ?

thanks for replies chaps

 

[Shane/Banshee]

so element has 0 affect on briar bloom and lotus spells ?

thanks for replies chaps

Correct. Dc and mana are equal (with decent luck) so there should be no reason for not using dc on weapons. Or master refining these.

there has been a couple of comments regarding pick axe and being better then a levelled 38 wep. Will put some time into testing this to find out what the reason or issue is. It could be a lack of luck?

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Most Sin damage comes from Lotus skills, so the added element doesn't have much effect, tbh we can rock a Pick Axe with the extra Attack Speed and that's more beneficial than using a Lv.38-49 weapon... so yeah maybe it does seem a little broken, personally the Lotus Skill equation needs to factor in DC somehow so using a weapon and having DC kit does make a difference to the overall damage.

Attack speed has been made clear on reboot so a better understanding can be made why sins feel pick axes are better.

 

[GeeDee]

It seems that DC does not effect our Blooms at all either. With 40 DC I do same bloom damage (or seem to) as when I have 90DC.

It is so hard to get blooms to do more dmg.

It does confuse me that to progress we have to stop using our main spells and completely change over from mana to DC.

Maybe make element affect our blooms and perhaps DC have a bigger impact, and all will be right in the world ^^

 

[Shane/Banshee]

Right time to make a sin! Watch this space. Lol

 

[Slayer1985]

I’m confused by pickaxe is it a viable option or accidentally a good choice by thinking outside the box??

 

[Shane/Banshee]

No idea why a pick axe is viable, other than lack of luck and mana builds

 

[GeeDee]

Pick axe I use is luck +1,

The weap I use is luck +2

There is legit no noticeable difference in bloom damage.

Pick axe also makes us get more hits in, so we can crit more often

For all those sins wondering if pick axe is actually better, give it a try, I promise you won't be disappointed lol.

 

[SilvaRoberto]

is it easier to luck a pick axe?

 

[GeeDee]

Don't think so. Standard variable depending on how much luck your weap currently has.

 

[FROSTBITE]

say you max level a mace and want to add +5 holy there is literally NO risk it will add +5 or do nothing

I failed a MR and lost 5 fire on my staff, so there is a risk unless I did something wrong?

 

[GeeDee]

If you refine MC onto a staff there will be no risk if you MR element.

If you refine element onto a staff there will be no risk if you MR MC.

It can't take away what you don't have.

 

[UnluckyXIII]

Pick axe I use is luck +1,

The weap I use is luck +2

There is legit no noticeable difference in bloom damage.

Pick axe also makes us get more hits in, so we can crit more often

For all those sins wondering if pick axe is actually better, give it a try, I promise you won't be disappointed lol.

Tried this in Goru and I’m not disappointed, have full attack speed now and no noticeable difference to my damage.

I know people have mentioned about having a lack of luck on your weapon but after 50 bene and still only luck one I’m happy to swap out to a Pick Axe that has more dura than my Lv.38 weapon and lets me reach max attack speed.

The only downside to using the Pick Axe is the attack sound but I’ll just mute it - anyone up for mining in Goru Cave ^^

 

[Piff1]

Also tried it after Gee mentioned it, works like a dream with that extra +2 aspeed for free as DC does 0 to bloom and every sin on the server is running Mana apart from Jaleh.

Got to the point where people are now running around with Pick axes on Sin's... Shame tbh spent a lot on benes / conversation for my weapon.


Also Observed Jaleh earlier as you keep banging on about this crit pig / Dc / Flash of light... I'd take Grand's char all day over that just take a little watch.

 

[Slayer1985]

47 sin here I now run pick axe always

 

[UnluckyXIII]

Also tried it after Gee mentioned it, works like a dream with that extra +2 aspeed for free as DC does 0 to bloom and every sin on the server is running Mana apart from Jaleh.

Got to the point where people are now running around with Pick axes on Sin's... Shame tbh spent a lot on benes / conversation for my weapon.


Also Observed Jaleh earlier as you keep banging on about this crit pig / Dc / Flash of light... I'd take Grand's char all day over that just take a little watch.

Yeah I watched Jeleh a bit to try and figure out if I was missing something as the Crit/DC argument had been thrown around a few times but after watching him killing in HP and Goru I’d also take GL’s build over it.

#PickAxeMasterRace

 

[DarkSacred]

Good stuff too as you get a 60 dura weapon you can bin and buy a new one for 100k, cheaper than repairing a level 38 weapon!