No Bag Drops - Effects in PVP

[Sorry]

Sorry, from when I played it was the same thing, and it was shitty either way.


Arguing with the vocal minority is retarded. If this is changed it will **** over every low level, just so a few high level can be dickheads. Frankly if Jamie and Shane want to take the server in that direction, I won't be a part of it. Low levels seem to get the short end of the stick repeatedly in most patches. This change will not benefit anyone, it's not a positive change to the server, I have no idea why people keep bringing it up. The PvP people are so interested in will disappear because people just won't fight anymore.

Why do you guys hate actual PvP so much? Just so you can gank low levels? Pathetic scrubs.

Corect me if i'm wrong, but in all this Mir years didnt body and bag drops happen? didnt High lvl come and kill some low lvls at some point ? Did people go on forums and cry? " omg i lost my item/s because X lvl came and 1 shot me i'm quiting if you don't turn off body and bag drops " . At first it was really interesting to play here, but slowly myself and as the usercount speaks alot of other people lost interest, i either log and stay afk in sz or don't log at all .

No dissrespect to Jamie or Shane but making no body drops was a stupid ideea, then after a while they turned off bag drops aswel ( at first it said it's only for test of Karma spell and it will be back in 1 week ) , Now after 2 or 3 weeks? ( not sure how long has passed ) Jamie comes and says he will discuss with Shane if they will bring back bag drops .

You said from the start it will be back after 1 week, but it never happened, maybe it's just me but No Bag / Body drops are a massive turn off, i think 90% of the people that still play this game, play it for the pvp / pk and body/bag drops. At least for me this is what actualy made me always come back to this game, nostalgia, pk, pvp and body/ bag drops.

Now you see people run @ to bosses with a full bag of items because why not? there is no punishment and they can carry all their store with them. I really liked this server and kinda still like it but i wish to see a positive update, I wish to see less people QQ and moan and fight each other because his dad can beat your dad and so on ... I think i have never seen so much hate on a Mir server ever before ( or i don't remember it ) as i have seen on this server.


People need to understand that the Mir comunity is smaller and smaller, yet they bring so much hate to people that want to adress their opinions or say what they think it's good or wrong, it's sad to see so much racism and hate and bad words going left and right on this server...


Sorry for any typos

 

[Shane/Banshee]

Only recent servers I've played is mir 3 kr no bag or body drop, also gsp.

Yes there are people with kit in bag. Once we turn it back on people won't have kit in bag. So you want pot drops and taos amulets?

Wizzys and Taos don't use spare kit as It's mainly mele that require the ei as they are up front tanking the boss. Without this kit they would just corspe flopp the boss and get constant Res from a Tao like in that 1st dragon lord video

 

[Herrerous]

The Yellow name will randomly drop the items from bags, and the Red name will Rare chance drop the items from body.

The guild wars are just for killing, and it won't drop items in this mode.

That's what I thought.

 

[rayray]

Only recent servers I've played is mir 3 kr no bag or body drop, also gsp.

Yes there are people with kit in bag. Once we turn it back on people won't have kit in bag. So you want pot drops and taos amulets?

Wizzys and Taos don't use spare kit as It's mainly mele that require the ei as they are up front tanking the boss. Without this kit they would just corspe flopp the boss and get constant Res from a Tao like in that 1st dragon lord video

Nothing stopping them putting it on before they leave town.

 

[CremeEgg82]

If people stuffing kit in their bags to swap during fights is such a big deal, then there are other possible solutions rather than turning on drops.

For example you could not allow items to be changed in combat, you have to be out of combat for X amount of time to swap an item over. Or add a cooldown to the slots when an item is changed.

Certain things would need excluding like talis and darkstones, but could work.

 

[Eun]

If people stuffing kit in their bags to swap during fights is such a big deal, then there are other possible solutions rather than turning on drops.

For example you could not allow items to be changed in combat, you have to be out of combat for X amount of time to swap an item over. Or add a cooldown to the slots when an item is changed.

Certain things would need excluding like talis and darkstones, but could work.

Warriors can easily shoulder dash to escape because Wizards and Taoist doesnt have chase skills / escape skills on non RT Maps.
Whereas a warrior chasing a wizard/taoist can just shoulder dash for fast X paces Dragon Rise > Swift Blade and flop wizards easily on non RT maps. Tempest won't even slow them down as no pushback/flinch. Taoist got bomb pets so atleast warriors will think twice getting near.

Assassins can cloak > go off screen somewhere >> change ADV kit. Assassins doesnt have shoulder dash as chase skill but atleast they have escape skill (correct me if i'm wrong, not knowledgable with sins.)

Conclusion?
Warriors got High pvp damage / Finishing skills (Swift Blade - Hits like a truck pfft), Insane amounts of min AC/MR(defiance), Insane Amounts of HP (2.1k w/ hp pig), Added Potion Regeneration (Potion Mastery/ Adv. Potion Mastery), Chase/Escape Skill(Shoulder Dash) Paired with having all ADV kits in bag (name elements here). In which they can swap freely, anywhere, without risk of it dropping from Bag/Pet Bag. ALL in non RT Map.

Taoist got Celestial Light, Insane Burst damage (Bomb Pet) , Transparency(tho this one sucks on pvp). Decent Amount of HP(Around 1.1k @ level 75 w/o hp pig. Doesnt have Chase/Escape Skill. ALL in non RT Map

Wizard got High Mass PVP damage (given the person getting hit is w/o ADV kit on), Around 700 hp at level 75 w/o hp pig (400+ with renounce on). Magic Shield (50% damage reduction). Tempest that last 60 seconds (-2 seconds everytime it hits/ Max 30 hits which will never happen unless time stand still). No Chase/Escape Skill. ALL in non RT Map

Assassins > don't get hit.

With level 10 Pig, a character can easily get x12 ADV worth on element 5 from pig, 2 from armor, 1 each on braces, 1 from neck,shoes,helm.

Now Imagine a Warrior having 2.2k HP/ 80-80MR / x5 Adv Wind /x5 Adv Fire/ x2 Adv Lightning / 200+ DC/ Versus a Wizard With 450MC/ 8-30 AC/ 700hp (with renounce/ hp pig) on a Non RT/Teleport/Geo/Flinch Map.

I leave the battle to your imagination

 

[DarkSacred]

Now Imagine a Warrior having 2.2k HP/ 80-80MR / x5 Adv Wind /x5 Adv Fire/ x2 Adv Lightning / 200+ DC/ Versus a Wizard With 450MC/ 8-30 AC/ 700hp (with renounce/ hp pig) on a Non RT/Teleport/Geo/Flinch Map.

I leave the battle to your imagination

You're going to struggle to achieve those stats without having to take some serious DC penalties when taking the ADV kit on all of your gear.

I'm rubbish at PvP but as a 60 warrior on a 12 year old laptop I'm not flopping anyone against a 58 Wizard I do 70's-80's per hit if I'm even luck enough to get close.

Wizards keep saying they have this raw deal against Warriors who are apparently so OPed they 1 hit everyone in PvP. People need to stop comparing themselves to the top 1% and compare to those of a similar level.

As a side note, you can't be the fastest leveller, best AoE damage, best at farming gold, have the highest damage reduction spell, highest damage increasing spell and want to be the best in PvP.

 

[Ksx]

You're going to struggle to achieve those stats without having to take some serious DC penalties when taking the ADV kit on all of your gear.

I'm rubbish at PvP but as a 60 warrior on a 12 year old laptop I'm not flopping anyone against a 58 Wizard I do 70's-80's per hit if I'm even luck enough to get close.

Wizards keep saying they have this raw deal against Warriors who are apparently so OPed they 1 hit everyone in PvP. People need to stop comparing themselves to the top 1% and compare to those of a similar level.

As a side note, you can't be the fastest leveller, best AoE damage, best at farming gold, have the highest damage reduction spell, highest damage increasing spell and want to be the best in PvP.

As 52 wiz, I tried yesterday to kill a warrior for a sub on monkeys zone. I was more lvl than him as I used repulse on him and it worked.

After 2 min of running (and my tempest hitting him for 10-40) he just stopped and start to laugh at my damage. With he speaking and me hitting him with tempest and Dragon spell (the wind one) I wasn't able to do nothing. He was using 110 hp normal pots and no adv (I observed him just when tt for check it), only defiance.

It's that normal? I'm completely a noob?

Running with 70-90 mc and 45-50 att wind.

Not crying, but at mid lvl we don't hit that much..

 

[Eun]

You're going to struggle to achieve those stats without having to take some serious DC penalties when taking the ADV kit on all of your gear.

I'm rubbish at PvP but as a 60 warrior on a 12 year old laptop I'm not flopping anyone against a 58 Wizard I do 70's-80's per hit if I'm even luck enough to get close.

Wizards keep saying they have this raw deal against Warriors who are apparently so OPed they 1 hit everyone in PvP. People need to stop comparing themselves to the top 1% and compare to those of a similar level.

As a side note, you can't be the fastest leveller, best AoE damage, best at farming gold, have the highest damage reduction spell, highest damage increasing spell and want to be the best in PvP.

Good sir, to achieve those stats in wizard requires Advance Renounce, Normal Renounce, Good refined weapon and kits. Nature buff (IV), ATLEAST 300HP Pig and level 75 Full MC hermits.

Whereas a Level 75 Warrior can take about 40MR 70DC Hermits, MR Pig, Good Refined weapon, Full DC Kit (low level ADV braces 3% DC). Adv armor helm shoes which they can bring ALL elements they want any time, any where due to no bag drops. With growing Aspeed.

PVP WISE, level 5 Pig Stats doesnt benefit Wizards/Taoist in ANY WAY, where as Warriors and Assassin can roll for +5 Aspeed.
Level 10 Pig Gives a whole 50% elemental reduction max And you can make as many level 10 pig as you want and can change for different situation.

 

[DarkSacred]

Good sir, to achieve those stats in wizard requires Advance Renounce, Normal Renounce, Good refined weapon and kits. Nature buff (IV), ATLEAST 300HP Pig and level 75 Full MC hermits.

Whereas a Level 75 Warrior can take about 40MR 70DC Hermits, MR Pig, Good Refined weapon, Full DC Kit (low level ADV braces 3% DC). Adv armor helm shoes which they can bring ALL elements they want any time, any where due to no bag drops. With growing Aspeed.

PVP WISE, level 5 Pig Stats doesnt benefit Wizards/Taoist in ANY WAY, where as Warriors and Assassin can roll for +5 Aspeed.
Level 10 Pig Gives a whole 50% elemental reduction max And you can make as many level 10 pig as you want and can change for different situation.

I have 4 level 10 pigs with +5 or 4 element advantage - cost around £300, my remaining pigs (3 more at level 10) have such poor stats they are not worth using and I don't have the time or money to spend 1m a pot to get +12 MP.

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Wait what? So we can all build and stack really good kit if we put time, money and sprinkle a little GG ontop?

Who would have thought eh?

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The classes feel quite balanced now in comparison to when the server started, especially after the removal of beckon / geo from non-RT maps. I don't get why people (Wizards) keep complaining asking to be more and more powerful.

 

[FNG]

bag drops should be readded and jamie said he would speak to shane about this.

Adv kit is a must in most caves and people cant/wont be able to pvp in adv kit.

currently there are warriors/sins running round with every adv kit you could possibly need in any situation, without risk.

Adv kit only for war and sin ? u wana have good pvp with mele ? use high AC kit how abt that?

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[holo]

Only recent servers I've played is mir 3 kr no bag or body drop, also gsp.

Yes there are people with kit in bag. Once we turn it back on people won't have kit in bag. So you want pot drops and taos amulets?

Wizzys and Taos don't use spare kit as It's mainly mele that require the ei as they are up front tanking the boss. Without this kit they would just corspe flopp the boss and get constant Res from a Tao like in that 1st dragon lord video

Pot drops, and to try and make wars and sins stop taking gear to bosses.

So they can take money off the low levels, and to make boss hunting harder for the lower levels by eliminating as many advantages they were given. Seems fair, lol.

 

[Fleshwerk]

Get to endgame and then give your opinions please, 450mc solo doesn't put a dent in RaW.

 

[Eun]

Adv kit only for war and sin ? u wana have good pvp with mele ? use high AC kit how abt that?

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comparing AC with Adv lol. AC chops 1 melee dmg per 1 ac, while 5x adv chops 50% element damage + MR of warriors which is basically like having luck 10 due to Defiance.