Normal wars (Not Sabuk)

[Varaka]

You'd get alot of glass cannons moaning im affraid .. RTs on a cooldown would be better .. something like 3-5mins

lol how did this thread get on rts.

I agree here if I couldn't use RTs say for example in OSK I wouldn't bother going because I would just be a pot mule.

RTs are good as they are, if a friend or guildie needs back up in most places you can get to them quickly. Most KR's are none RT zones anyways.

Look at EM, it drops mir items yet it hardly gets killed. Why? because of the massive run. Forget a quick iwt hunt for some sun pots you would have spent all your pots getting there.

The no rt thing might work if the sever population was higher as you could always find a party or group to hunt with. ( if global shout was free).

The forums use to be buzzing with lots of life with many different people posting. No offence but now it's the same people with the same dribble. ( too many cat reaction thread locks to blame)

Make wars longer and cheaper and add a guild 48 hour guild kill score board to feed our egos.

 

[Adv]

Think you are mistaken about guild wars being a feature of this server. It happened on euro. It happened on USA it happened on many other servers too.
The luck system needs attention not the guild wars.

You misread my post.

I said its become a massive part of this server due to the L7 weapons. Obviously im aware that guild wars have been on every server (Maybe mistaken but pretty sure) unless it was purposely removed.

 

[bayya]

[*]1 War per guild (you can war every guild but only once every 24hrs)**

Rest of your post is very thoughtful but this doesn't work.
So Team forsaken DD DamageInc NoName who all fight each other can only war once a day and only for the bosses in that 3 hours?
That isn't any use to any of them.
Don't see any comments from people who want the system changed.
Why doesn't first poster want to be warred?
What difference does it make to their game?

 

[terriblen]

You misread my post.

I said its become a massive part of this server due to the L7 weapons. Obviously im aware that guild wars have been on every server (Maybe mistaken but pretty sure) unless it was purposely removed.

I thought it was the constant wars what we are talkin about not that guild wars are in game
Some guilds have constant warred the whole server on many mirs because they don't want to curse their weapons. Guild wars have always been about not cursing weapons haven't they?
That's what I was thinking.

 

[Adv]

I thought it was the constant wars what we are talkin about not that guild wars are in game
Some guilds have constant warred the whole server on many mirs because they don't want to curse their weapons. Guild wars have always been about not cursing weapons haven't they?
That's what I was thinking.

More so to avoid going red and thus having to afk.

Iv not played many servers where Luck7 was as powerful, and while i wouldnt say its "hard" to get, it is time consuming and doesnt guarantee any success. So its mainly about the cursing on this server.

End of the day way i see it is if you wanna absolutely smash **** out of someone with a L7 weapon it cant ALWAYS be free. If you wanna kill people at will constantly, then use a PK weapon.

I only see L7 users complaining about this change, or people who back up Luck7 players.

 

[CrazyBear...]

More so to avoid going red and thus having to afk.

Iv not played many servers where Luck7 was as powerful, and while i wouldnt say its "hard" to get, it is time consuming and doesnt guarantee any success. So its mainly about the cursing on this server.

End of the day way i see it is if you wanna absolutely smash **** out of someone with a L7 weapon it cant ALWAYS be free. If you wanna kill people at will constantly, then use a PK weapon.

I only see L7 users complaining about this change, or people who back up Luck7 players.

Luck 7 readily available, curse immunity potions available in the game shop, you do the maths.

 

[Adv]

Luck 7 readily available, curse immunity potions available in the game shop, you do the maths.

Not entirely sure what you mean. Im all for PKing NOT being free. Seems you are too? lol

 

[HokusPokus]

Not entirely sure what you mean. Im all for PKing NOT being free. Seems you are too? lol

warring has always been about luck 7 protection thats why tori/depress etc war 24/7 increase the war guild cost x10 imo so that it is not abused by them , simples

 

[terriblen]

No it hasn't. The 24/7 guild war everyone started on euro when not that many people had luck 7 (til after the bene dupe exploits)
It's more about psychological warfare and tactics.

 

[Koriban]

You could just limit the amount of different guilds you can war at the same time to say, 5.

Meaning you'd war the 5 most important guilds worth fighting (Team, DD, Forsaken, Evolution, Knightmare) and you wouldn't be able to war the friendlier guilds after that (shouldn't be doing anyway)

 

[CrazyBear...]

Not entirely sure what you mean. Im all for PKing NOT being free. Seems you are too? lol

Sorry what i was trying to say was, people who have luck 7 are also able to afford the curse lotions, therefore they still see it as free PK.

Taking these out and limiting guild wars will have the most impact on high luck players and make them think before they act.

 

[Adv]

Personally never agreed with the CurseLotions think theyre an absolute farce. If you want maximum power to kill a player use your L7 at the risk of cursing. If you wanna kill them and not worry about the Luck on your weapon, carry a pk weapon.

Too many ppl getting their ass wiped imo. Trying to give every downside and/or punishment/consequence of actions a negative/positive upside.

By that i mean;

Action A has repercussion A.
Action B has repercussion B.

Atm its Action A (lets say pking someone) has repercussion A (Which is nothing, due to a curse lotion or, get out of jail free card)

You dont see get out of jail free cards openly available in Monopoly.

inb4someonesaysmirisntmonopoly - Im making a point.

I just dont agree with the repercussions of actions being either very cheap, or non existent.

 

[HokusPokus]

Personally never agreed with the CurseLotions think theyre an absolute farce. If you want maximum power to kill a player use your L7 at the risk of cursing. If you wanna kill them and not worry about the Luck on your weapon, carry a pk weapon.

Too many ppl getting their ass wiped imo. Trying to give every downside and/or punishment/consequence of actions a negative/positive upside.

By that i mean;

Action A has repercussion A.
Action B has repercussion B.

Atm its Action A (lets say pking someone) has repercussion A (Which is nothing, due to a curse lotion or, get out of jail free card)

You dont see get out of jail free cards openly available in Monopoly.

inb4someonesaysmirisntmonopoly - Im making a point.

I just dont agree with the repercussions of actions being either very cheap, or non existent.

+1

 

[Razarus]

You dont see get out of jail free cards openly available in Monopoly.

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You can have the dog so long as I can be the Oma!

 

[Adv]

I always wanted the Iron!!

O/t make guild wars 500million for 10minute war.

 

[Mazza]

Stop mixing 3 or 4 different topics into one. Separate them
First
Some people and guilds dont like being warred. Why not?
It is possible to play mir without fighting but only if you keep out of the way of the people who do like fighting and will attack you for no reason. So you sometimes have interrupted hunts and have to tt rt or log til the fighters have left the map you are on. I bet this doesnt happen every hunt.
Second
PK penalties. Never seen a mir where these were really a deterrent. Some of them have a pk points ranking npc and players boast about it.
Here they are even less of a deterrent because of pk reduction scrolls and curse immunity.
Surely this is about the number of luck 7 weaps ingame
Dont forget that everyone the warring guild and the warred guild is protected from pk points and cursed weapons. Some guilds get that protection free.
Third
Cost of warring a guild
Fourth
Frequency of warring another guild
Fifth
Luck 7 weapons
Do the people who want to change guild wars only want "justice" by making the perceived aggressor risk losing luck7? Simple way of looking at it given curse immunity pots exist.
Dont answer just have a think about what it is you are trying to get as a result of this thread and poll.

MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT THERE IS A BUG RIGHT NOW SO GUILD WARS DONT END. Once this is fixed people might calm down a bit think straight

 

[Adv]

All of those are sub-topics of the same thing though, its all relative. Nothing is going off topic, relax lol. If we made a new thread or whatever for every sub-topic then LOMCN would likely crash!

 

[Jicaa]

I always wanted the Iron!!

O/t make guild wars 500million for 10minute war.

Tophat, always the Tophat ;D

 

[noisound]

Majority are going too say leave it as it is as they will be in the "bully" guild(s). Just sayin. Do what you think's fair sam.

 

[ILovePie:D]

Majority are going too say leave it as it is as they will be in the "bully" guild(s). Just sayin. Do what you think's fair sam.

Because it's how Mir has always been