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yea, maybe if enemy is 5 lvls lower and has no gear... no ****ing way this happenes on end gear based players... how do wizards become useless Oo
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yea, maybe if enemy is 5 lvls lower and has no gear... no ****ing way this happenes on end gear based players... how do wizards become useless Oo
He saying that the evasion will block the magic attacks. Which to a point is correct. However I'm pretty sure most people would prefer para slow silence over evasion or block.
Let's see how things pan out.
Will be looking to add a cap at around 20/25 % for each stat, or 20/25 rolls of that upgrade.
Let's see how things pan out.
Will be looking to add a cap at around 20/25 % for each stat, or 20/25 rolls of that upgrade.
Honestly sins have had a few buffs recently. They are starting to dominate warriors. As for wizzys it's difficult but it won't be long before sins will be hitting 1000+ through shield none crits. Most have around 2k hp with renouce (top players) its definitely play style that wins. Sins in group fight have no real place, which imo is about right as they are a single target damage class. 2 or 3 mana lotus hits should do any Wiz in-game. Only issue is tempest, definitely need ei 5 fighting them or its very difficult to land those 2 or 3 hits.
Another thing sins don't realise is that they can regen a wizzys damage just buy hitting a mob.
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Just a not about dance and grip
Sins have the +3 levels grip on Korean and gsp. It worked, all could counter it. Endurance warrior. Sin dragon repel, Wiz repel, Tao Puri trans.
Dance is broken Vs wizzys. 2 sins duo dance that's good night for any wizzy which is not right or ideal.
Another thing sins don't realise is that they can regen a wizzys damage just buy hitting a mob.
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Just a not about dance and grip
Sins have the +3 levels grip on Korean and gsp. It worked, all could counter it. Endurance warrior. Sin dragon repel, Wiz repel, Tao Puri trans.
Dance is broken Vs wizzys. 2 sins duo dance that's good night for any wizzy which is not right or ideal.
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yeah i get your point.. but its also good night if you have 2 wizzies spamming ms on your ass...as you say.. you can hit 10.000 but doesnt help if you get kited around the world and cant do **** about it. I used that regen on mob tactic aswell but even lower geared taos or wizard hit so hard.. its ridiculous...
but i guess we have to take it as it is and see...
but i guess we have to take it as it is and see...
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mate imo its you not the assassin class, any assassin my level / my kit has as good of a chance of killing me as i do of killing them.
They do, but you have to remember that on Korean wiz also have Mirror Image, Pet Taming from E Shock, JoH isn't capped in PvP, all skills cause flinch, Tempest Repulses.
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I don’t understand how you actually think this is fair?
An assassin can out pot a wizard damage by hitting a mob?
How many hits does a wiz need to hit to kill an assassin with obs set on? Right now it’s looking like 15-20 shots if u include comfort/hp pot
Let’s not even include warriors cause it gets even worse....
And how does a warrior have better Mr on their arm/helmet? Their suppose to be an AC focused class which is why lvl 44 wiz arm got better MR than warriors. Somewhere in the middle you guys ****ed up hard
The new set gives 500 hp/mp i don’t see any class benefiting from this apart from assassins. Give them one if you have to not both...
Saphire gear wiz can down an obsidian sin in about 7 hits, from a distance.
With equal gear there's not much in it, all I see is sins complaining about wiz being too strong.
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instead of **** talking go actually ingame instead of sitting on the forum and try pvp with someone on same gear and lvl and see what it is like. But you obviously dont have an idea of the class you are talking about. When the **** do you have time to hit a mob and leech life?
first of all. If you run into the mobs you get hit and additional dmg. Second of all if the wizard is not stupid he just gonna chase you and get free hits on you. Since you cant dance on 90 % of the maps the distance you waste of running to a mob to get lifeleech just kills you. It would be different if you could dance on all maps (run to mob leech up and jump to your target, which is not the case)
I know this server doesnt have much about pvp balance, but at least keep it neutral. Im getting 4 shot by a tao on same lvl and gear without even using his demon lol!!! There is nothing you can do. A CLASS with self heal, ress to get up team mates to assist, with a spell to block your battlereg but can have his own battlereg, can just take off all your buffs and shields with a lifebubble that prevents oneshot... who tested this and tought its right to have this class 3-4 shot all other classes? Like seriously.. its beyond a joke. Tao Demon Explosion hit me for OVER 2600 NON CRIT as AOE DMG. But yea.. sins are so op... lol - without dance i probably wont even land 1 hit on the tao before im dead. When i land a hit i do 400-500 third bloom 1 k. damn...
Im lvl 78 with black horse emblem and other endgear.
first of all. If you run into the mobs you get hit and additional dmg. Second of all if the wizard is not stupid he just gonna chase you and get free hits on you. Since you cant dance on 90 % of the maps the distance you waste of running to a mob to get lifeleech just kills you. It would be different if you could dance on all maps (run to mob leech up and jump to your target, which is not the case)
I know this server doesnt have much about pvp balance, but at least keep it neutral. Im getting 4 shot by a tao on same lvl and gear without even using his demon lol!!! There is nothing you can do. A CLASS with self heal, ress to get up team mates to assist, with a spell to block your battlereg but can have his own battlereg, can just take off all your buffs and shields with a lifebubble that prevents oneshot... who tested this and tought its right to have this class 3-4 shot all other classes? Like seriously.. its beyond a joke. Tao Demon Explosion hit me for OVER 2600 NON CRIT as AOE DMG. But yea.. sins are so op... lol - without dance i probably wont even land 1 hit on the tao before im dead. When i land a hit i do 400-500 third bloom 1 k. damn...
Im lvl 78 with black horse emblem and other endgear.
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honestly, from all the cries im seeing they wont change it.. but even when they change it. PVP dmg of taos has to be nerfed hard... you jump in their face. they blow up demon and 3 shots = dead or 1 explosion crit dead... nice game
I highly doubt any wizard with mc146 wep can 7 hit an assassin and even there is the majority of wizards with sapphire set have to hit an mele class over 10 hits.
The fact that Shane thinks assassin should be able to outpot a wizard damage shows you how broke this server really is.
I didn’t even bother reading what Amnesia said because we all know he’s an assassin and biased towards his class.
With the increase of health and the effects of comfort, if this tread continues wizard will be practically useless apart from cash hunting
I don't feel it is a case of the other classes being massively broken, it is just a case that the wiz here is missing half its tools. I'm unsure if Jamie or Shane ever really played a wiz in anger on any official servers so its hard to tell how they want them to play out.
Compared to any official versions wiz here are lacklustre. Some areas that are missing compared to official that have an impact:
1. Electric Shock - No Taming. Pets aren't a huge damage dealer and while there are a lot of mobs you can't tame for balance reasons, there are still a lot you can. They run interference in PvP and buy you time. They also get the odd hits off before getting killed and with official servers flinch mechanic this is sometimes sorely needed.
2. Judgement of Heaven - No Flinch & Capped in PvP. The entire design of this spell is useless here because flinch doesn't exist. It is a gap creator spell, like other classes have gap closers. It gives you that brief moment to get away if you've survived the initial hit. The fact it is capped and capped so low here makes it even worse.
3. Mirror Image - Removed. Mirror Image is a key spell for wiz PvP, it means that grip/assault etc has a 50/50 chance, same with distracting puri from taos, they may get the wrong target. It only ever did minor damage and of a single school of magic, it was utility at its finest.
4. Frost Bite - Reworked. Frost Bite is Ice Shield in official, it doesn't freeze you in place, has a chance to freeze anyone that hits you, believe it does damage back on the hits that freeze, believe it absorbs some damage (been a while since I've used it, and my current wiz on kr isn't high enough, will see if I can get levelled)
5. Tempest - Removed repulse effect. Again this is a gap creator spell in PvP and it also stops players just dashing through every time.
6. Geo - Disabled on too many maps. This is a core PvP mechanic for wiz, always has been.
The classes are built around one of two styles of play. The melee classes have skills to close gaps. The ranged classes have skills to create them. I can't comment for the other classes in great detail as I've never really played them beyond low levels. But I do feel the core concepts of all the classes needs re-evaluating as this is starting to feel nothing like Mir 3.
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then stop talking in forums if you dont bother reading.If you would have read, you would actually understand that I am talking about Taos to be broken.
And I am not biased as I actually enjoy playing my lvl 77 Wizz, but if you are able to get 1 shot with a tao explosion crit or just killed by 3-4 basic attacks with a toolkit like the tao has you just need a brain to understand that the game mechanic are totally broken.
And yes, the server is so broken, thats why every second player is a sin.. not a wizard or a tao (attention, irony)
@CreamEgg you dont need additional escape skills, because we cant use our gap closers 99 % of the time. thats something you forget mentioning... otherwise this wouldnt be such a problem.
Again just reading this from a neutral perspecitve, you want on a range class that can kite already 2 escape skills, a pet, an immunity buff + dmg absorbtion with freezing effect + flinch and push back on tempest, flinch on joh
even reading this makes me cringe. I am sure there is 1-2 skills that can or needs to be revised but surely not what you are asking for...
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