Pay 2 Win - Stealth Res Pill change

[Hells]

Not sure which side of the coin I sit on with things BUT

Hells had over £500's worth of stuff in the TM the week that patch went live, he has another £500-750's worth of GG stuff in TM right now. This is verging on P2W, I realise this will generate a massive amount of income for Jamie but for the rest of the server its now a case of the richest people outside of game can manipulate markets to always win.

but buddy
all this stuff don`t get me **** but maybe a black horse in the future
its just gold generating for me without sitting in ants 24/7 like a mongol before the gg patch O_O
any1 can do it
mazus made more gold then me in 2 days from ants then i did from TM
so please buy my shitty salty meat kk :/

 

[DarkSacred]

but buddy
all this stuff don`t get me **** but maybe a black horse in the future
its just gold generating for me without sitting in ants 24/7 like a mongol before the gg patch O_O
any1 can do it
mazus made more gold then me in 2 days from ants then i did from TM
so please buy my shitty salty meat kk :/

I don't disagree that you're playing by the rules, you are and you've got the income to do so which is fine (and I'm very jealous)

My concern is when it goes from a nice little perk to P2W.

You have what on the TM at the moment? 300 fresh meat and quite a few pig pots, equating to over 100m gold. The average player without your income to throw at the game would have to farm ants for over 70-80 hours to make the same kind of money. That by definition is pay to win, you're gaining an unfair advantage over the average player due to the size of your wallet. So instead of having to cash like normal players you're now able to focus totally on levelling, furthering that advantage.

Don't take this the wrong way though, you didn't set the rules or make the changes for GG items to be tradable via the TM so everything you've done is fine. All I'm saying is it starts to create a three tier server, P2Wers, Multis/no jobbers and the rest.

 

[GeeDee]

I would however.... People will complain at them. I'd rather close the Game Shop if it would stop all the moaning

Closeeeeeeee it - Charge £5 per week for ppl to play haha.

 

[KillerMan]

Closeeeeeeee it - Charge £5 per week for ppl to play haha.

Dumbest idea ever.

Now run along and keep crying. Funny thing is no one even used those res pills, apart from hells lol

 

[Ciggy]

Just add death penalty timer, each death adds 5mins before you can be rez using gg item clears every 24hr. So first death of the day can be instant rez with rez pill/rose, then every death after will extend the rez duration by 5min, on the 7th death it'll be 30mins.

 

[GeeDee]

Dumbest idea ever.

Now run along and keep crying. Funny thing is no one even used those res pills, apart from hells lol

I wasn't been serious. Now kindly remove your tongue from hells bottom. Ty. Must be bad if you need to live in another players glory to have any kind of presence in a mir server.

 

[Tango_GreatWall]

Since when res pills winning become glory, you gave too highly comment for them, pal.^^

I wasn't been serious. Now kindly remove your tongue from hells bottom. Ty. Must be bad if you need to live in another players glory to have any kind of presence in a mir server.

 

[deathking]

Is it possible to make it so if you use a rez pill you got a 15 minute period after use where your able to body drop items?

 

[KillerMan]

I wasn't been serious. Now kindly remove your tongue from hells bottom. Ty. Must be bad if you need to live in another players glory to have any kind of presence in a mir server.

If I didn’t know any better it sounds like your crying. Take your own advice from another thread and move on son.

 

[GeeDee]

If I didn’t know any better it sounds like your crying. Take your own advice from another thread and move on son.

Ah here comes the hand book come backs. Someone says something that you know is right, but don't agree with, the old fail safe, "crying" insult.

Try thinking of a decent argument as to why pay 2 win isn't damaging the server and maybe others will take you a tad more serious.

Pay2win will inevitably mean less players, who will THC have left to bully if all the casuals quit?

 

[LightBringer]

Add a debuff after you are ressed by a pill, you can't be ressed by another for 5 minutes?

but to deviate from the post

10/10 would buy a pig exp boost.

 

[Fusion]

Tissues? It’s funny seeing people like who who always try to shut down a discussion crying their eyes out.


If you don’t like it then donate some cash to server and hand them out to your guild lol

I dont think you understand his post. things are getting worse in regards to the cash shop i can understand hells works for his money and he can spend it the way he wants and jamie getting this kind of cash is only a good thing to keep him active with server.

But 5 minuets is to short. it just takes away the fun of pvp i think they should be removed from game all together as only tao should be able to rez but thatch just me

I am loving the server at the moment but things are going down hill the pvp on server is a mess. temp is OP with elements and the tao pet is 1 hitting every one once the tao stacks phantom this is broken.

this server is still a improvement on all other Mir 3 servers as the features are great. and it is user friendly noting is to hard e.g refine etc

but its not balanced i know its hard to balance things with 4 classes but this is the big problem.
PTW also but this is on every server
I love the idea of hunt gold as some people cant donate but im finding it hard to get hunt gold to keep all me T buffs in place just saying :P

P.S just Nerf Hells :P

Cheers

 

[DarkSacred]

But I'm sure they were never sellable in the TM, I remember them mostly being 'unable to drop, unable to trade' etc etc

It was changed over a week ago, since then players with the biggest wallets have been flooding the market with things on TM giving them a major P2W advantage.

 

[kevin87]

res pills at 15mins - you die and red pill, the pill will now be on a 15min cool down, if u die within 4 mins of that cool down, you get teleported to town because theres 11mins left on cool down which wouldnt give u time to res pill again. you had to make sure you stayed alive longer than 5 mins to ensure you was able to res pill again

res pills now at 5 mins, have made the game look like P2W as only people with endless amounts of GG and no sense will just spam them, the other side has no choice but too, fight till he runs out of GG/HG. i dont think a fight should be based off who is willing to pay the most real life cash to the game, i do agree people that have donated should have some perks, but advantages for donating over the rest of the player base just seems abit unfair and for the people that have donated their little bits to the server, dont feel like donating no more.

the way game shop items are being sold, i wont be shocked to see lk 5+ weapons flying around in a matter of weeks. i think theres no excuse to change the res pills to 5mins, not a soul seen any post about them being too little in cool down and only time we notice that they have been changed is when hells pops them, while having a two hour fight over a boss, then to top it of he gives one out to each of his group members to ensure they survive, if the the cool down on the pills was at there original 15mins i think SD would of went back but due to the P2W aspect of the res pill, i dont think they would bother.

to be honest i cant see the fun in fighting someone like that, kill him and he just res pill to kill you while u think u have the victory.

 

[Drakay]

^ +1. I agree res pill change to 5mins is a bit silly.

 

[FROSTBITE]

Guys/girls, can't we all just get along?

 

[ventus]

5mins too short, 10mins was fine.

 

[ibby]

May aswell add body drop pots to work on others ahahaha , quite entertaining to read this thread :lol

 

[1024]

I dont play zircon but it looks like this whole thread is pretty much about some pill being changed from a 15min cd to a 5min secretly that alone is very poor on his side, who knows what else he changes secretly also why doesnt he just revert the change?

 

[<SOSO>]

Imo res pills should have 1h CD. I dont give a **** about what ne1 say. It's brokeback af, safe af (cuz this is a carebear server with no body, not even bag drops), it RUINS the fights and all the fun out of them and atm it's 100% pay2win. I can see Hells pming Jamie that he donates a lot and wants the CD lowered on res pills cuz he's **** af and tired of loosing fights, maybe even threaten to quit if he doesnt get what he wants rofl.

I didn't play at all in the last week cause of various motives. For once, I did 20 lvls in lair from 53 to 73 and in this time I got to craft 5 items, which all failed and it puts me off tbh. Why all these lvling caves over lvling caves while ppl @ lvl 70+ are wearing lvl 25 items? Did u forgot to increase the droprates and just went to GSP ones with x10 exp? GSP had how many thousands of players again? Lots were hunting there and trading parts + crafting them. U had here for like 2 weeks just alibab and myself hunting there and in the past 2 weeks like 10 more ppl joined.

Fact is that back on Marble when us (Tribal) left, serv died v shortly after. There were 2 main guilds left Core and the chinese and they started to quit 1 after another. The mirror image on this server is the same, only the guild names are different u have SD THC and TGW/Daredevils.
Tell me if im wrong.

I get it, this is a business and it's better for u to have such low cd on the res pills on the short run, but I guarantee u that it will affect the serv drastically for the long run (IF u plan on having one). Like LM said, this wasn't on the patch change logs because too many ppl would've had the same reaction in regards to it. Another fact is that only THC will say that it's better this way. Thn u tell me that this is not PAY2WIN ?

Just my two cents.

Flame on.