Post ur idea of Taoist if need to an improvement

Lonely5201988

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A lot of Taoist from my guild complain that Taoist is so weak. Either people agree or disagree with it ,please post ur suggestion for it , because everyone loves to have a balanced server because people are starting to
rerolls to others classes , so it's just bad player or it's bad class
Thank u all
 

Westie

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Personally think taos are too reliant on stacked holy on this server, im only lvl 45 so only lost 3 holy with hermit change but it is going to mean more time for me to hunt in higher level areas, would love to see sc given a buff so it becomes are main stat and element ia just a bonus depending on area.
Think it might be too late for this tho...
 

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For exemple in NR @46 with 32holy I was hiting mobs over 100+ now I dont even get to 100hit .
 

WelshSteel

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Tao is weak in general, 1st thing you look at from a class perspective is what is the role of that class and Tao role is pretty much about making u and ur guldies idiot proof, idiot dies because of weak kit or sleeping on the wheel, rez him! Monster does too much damage because of members with weak kit/no mechanics , well spam heal! otherwise it's just a lame wiz that hits different elements.
Tao has a very basic skillset that seriously needs looking at, also don't even mention purification on enemies, you'll only be able to do it reliably on another tao or a sin because this game is Zircon the 2 heroes where war/wiz dominate and have ideal lvling areas/power spikes ( once a day or so if ur a tao it is breifly the 3 heroes as in when ur war gives ur sweet ass a PM because he wants to do an EC ;p).

Speaking of elements that's all you stack, SC is literally pathetic in comparison unless you are dual boxing Tao for buff duration but why would you, compare companion buffs with tao buffs...a 3 year old could maybe count to a higher number!

Just cross ur fingers for Marble V2, jamie looks to have a lot more experience when it comes to Mir2 but hopefully he won't balance tao around a super nova of a poison cloud (also the skill a class is balanced around drops 0.1% off of something hard asf).

TLDR Tao or Sin? reroll trust.
 

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Tao is weak in general, 1st thing you look at from a class perspective is what is the role of that class and Tao role is pretty much about making u and ur guldies idiot proof, idiot dies because of weak kit or sleeping on the wheel, rez him! Monster does too much damage because of members with weak kit/no mechanics , well spam heal! otherwise it's just a lame wiz that hits different elements.
Tao has a very basic skillset that seriously needs looking at, also don't even mention purification on enemies, you'll only be able to do it reliably on another tao or a sin because this game is Zircon the 2 heroes where war/wiz dominate and have ideal lvling areas/power spikes ( once a day or so if ur a tao it is breifly the 3 heroes as in when ur war gives ur sweet ass a PM because he wants to do an EC ;p).

Speaking of elements that's all you stack, SC is literally pathetic in comparison unless you are dual boxing Tao for buff duration but why would you, compare companion buffs with tao buffs...a 3 year old could maybe count to a higher number!

Just cross ur fingers for Marble V2, jamie looks to have a lot more experience when it comes to Mir2 but hopefully he won't balance tao around a super nova of a poison cloud (also the skill a class is balanced around drops 0.1% off of something hard asf).

TLDR Tao or Sin? reroll trust.


Marble V2 ? Is he planing to release a new server again?
 

WelshSteel

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Marble V2 ? Is he planing to release a new server again?

I would and from the looks of it he will, his marble was the sh1t + loved his lvled mobs idea it was fun. It was another sin headache tho tbh he should just replace sin with archer's it would be easier to balance a range class surely (generally lvling a sin survivability vs the damage they do must be difficult to juggle). Also issue with fox pets being broken on wiz and if drops can be buffed in other places because game was almost pointless outside of past bichon, if the game is solid it will stay up for years with minimum management/patching needed and decent donation, I wish he could get his sh1t together.
 
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boost skeleton and shinsu to do mad PVE damage almost like SDC and done :)
 

WelshSteel

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boost skeleton and shinsu to do mad PVE damage almost like SDC and done :)

Hells man come on, if people want to play wizz they play wizz, people shouldn't be picking tao and then they end up basically being a wizz with bit of utlilty,
 

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I would and from the looks of it he will, his marble was the sh1t + loved his lvled mobs idea it was fun. It was another sin headache tho tbh he should just replace sin with archer's it would be easier to balance a range class surely (generally lvling a sin survivability vs the damage they do must be difficult to juggle). Also issue with fox pets being broken on wiz and if drops can be buffed in other places because game was almost pointless outside of past bichon, if the game is solid it will stay up for years with minimum management/patching needed and decent donation, I wish he could get his sh1t together.

I did love the development of Mir 2, however I can confirm that there will never be "Marble V2", that's because if I was (not confirming or denying) doing a Mir 2 server it would be a new source because of creator's curse.

Google it for an explanation but in short:

creator3.png
 

Westie

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For exemple in NR @46 with 32holy I was hiting mobs over 100+ now I dont even get to 100hit .

I dont get this, im doing the same damage as before in NR, only difference is i have lost crit damage to compensate lose of holy?
I thought the issue was hermit stack, what else has been change to make everyone think Taos is weaker still?

Also agree with WelshSteel, first time i played tao we had no AoE and even with decent sc gear solo lvling was a nightmare, but groups needed taos, i find very few groups need a tao on this server, at my level anyway.
I can still hit about 8-10mil xp an hour in NR for now thats about 10% So will keep me going until i can go else where, not really sure where tho? 😂
 

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Why would you even want marble v2 , yet another server where it has **** loads of potential ( like this ) to be a real long term server , and he starts ****ing **** up within a month , you only need to check this site to see the daily moans about the latest “balance” changes , you’re deluded if you think Jamie will ever become a good Gm, sure he creates good **** but he can’t manage it in the slightest
 

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Change elemental sup to scale off sc so they can slightly mitigate the recent nerf to elements. It will also make taoist a further asset in competitive play for the increased damage boost.

I was thinking avg buff at lvl50, 100-120sc to buff 15-20 element. Maybe 1 element to 10sc?

Change base element 0-4 = 2,3,4,5,6
Level 3 sup with 100sc = 15 element.

Too op? Discuss.
 
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Why would you even want marble v2 , yet another server where it has **** loads of potential ( like this ) to be a real long term server , and he starts ****ing **** up within a month , you only need to check this site to see the daily moans about the latest “balance” changes , you’re deluded if you think Jamie will ever become a good Gm, sure he creates good **** but he can’t manage it in the slightest

It does seem to be too much for one person to handle. Even Samuel ended up hiring an extra coder and had 3 other people helping him manage the forums/bullshit/balance that is required of a Mir server.

Jamie does have shane, but to be honest I don't recognise shanes ability to handle anything better than Jamie can, nor is shane a good coder. He can trust him, at least - and that's rare to have especially for a Mir server.

I get on well with Jamie and would help out if it's really needed - but besides PR management what else could I realistically do? Being honest with myself it would mean Jamie allowing access to his server in order to better help with balance and design, which is a big no no from a security point of view, no matter how well you know someone. Hell i'd want to atleast meet them in person before giving away details like that. I offered this to him a while ago but nothing came of it, so I chose a different path and am working with someone else, to do something I enjoy.

The thing is, Jamie is capable of doing all of these things and responding to people too but approaching him in the correct manner is important. Asking for clarity in a well formed and constructed thread goes a long way to getting a reply, as opposed to the usual incessent whining that goes on among these forums. It's a turn off, to say the least. You'll also lose all credibility if you claim something as fact, when he has the numbers to know you're making it up.

Which is all too common from Mir players attempting to get their own way. It's a no win situation for either Jamie or the players, I think he could do with avoiding literally every form of communication and hiring someone else to relay information, as all the drama and crap that goes on here, while entertaining as ****, doesn't do him any favours. That alone might actually be all that's needed at present, tbh.

Random carrot tangent, apologies. Carry on as you were.

P.S Nerf tao's :glee:
 
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The thing is, Jamie is capable of doing all of these things and responding to people too but approaching him in the correct manner is important. Asking for clarity in a well formed and constructed thread goes a long way to getting a reply, as opposed to the usual incessent whining that goes on among these forums.

This is wrong in more cases than it is right. Most of the posts I see from Jamie are him replying to troll posts and ignoring actual questions from people who aren't constantly bitching. Especially in the patch feedback threads. It's laughable.
 

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This is wrong in more cases than it is right. Most of the posts I see from Jamie are him replying to troll posts and ignoring actual questions from people who aren't constantly bitching. Especially in the patch feedback threads. It's laughable.

Agree, there are entire feedback threads with multiple replies and people being pretty decent for a change. Yet not a single acknowledgement from staff. Example the one I started.
 

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Agree, there are entire feedback threads with multiple replies and people being pretty decent for a change. Yet not a single acknowledgement from staff. Example the one I started.

I read it, But I avoid posting of any decent threads because it has negative effects, people use the opportunity to start **** posting and/or change their opinion based on how or what I post.

In your latest thread you mentioned Hermit Elemental Stacking... last reboot, Hermit Elemental stacking was revised...

You can't say that I am not reading the threads.
 

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I read it, But I avoid posting of any decent threads because it has negative effects, people use the opportunity to start **** posting and/or change their opinion based on how or what I post.

In your latest thread you mentioned Hermit Elemental Stacking... last reboot, Hermit Elemental stacking was revised...

You can't say that I am not reading the threads.

You know, a quiet note like this, a PM in game, a PM here etc go a long way. Not everyone is out to be a dick.