Rage "bug"

[WhyPk]

Rage is meant to add minimum dc aswell as maximum. It is currently not the case.

 

[Samuel]

Rage is meant to add minimum dc aswell as maximum. It is currently not the case.

I don't think this is the case...

첨 기폭 (Jian Qi burst): Lift the internal forces, between the increase in a certain attack, attack and enhance the duration depends on the skill level.
Level 0	44	N / A	20	12% increase in maximum attack 18 seconds
Level 1	44	8000	25	15% increase in maximum attack 24 seconds
Level 2	47	14000	30	Increase 18% maximum attack 30 seconds
Level 3	50	20000	35	Increase 21% maximum attack 36 seconds

Sam

 

[Fleshwerk]

On euro, it added min,
Also pro field is supposed to be same.

 

[WhyPk]

On euro, it added min,
Also pro field is supposed to be same.

This

 

[rainstone]

welcome to Mir Chronicles:P

This

 

[Samuel]

I don't think this is the case...

첨 기폭 (Jian Qi burst): Lift the internal forces, between the increase in a certain attack, attack and enhance the duration depends on the skill level.
Level 0	44	N / A	20	12% increase in maximum attack 18 seconds
Level 1	44	8000	25	15% increase in maximum attack 24 seconds
Level 2	47	14000	30	Increase 18% maximum attack 30 seconds
Level 3	50	20000	35	Increase 21% maximum attack 36 seconds

Sam

I quote myself and direct attention to a table based on official wemade...

LCD is going to check official source... I am pretty sure it is working as official.

Sam

 

[DeeKayDee]

I don't think this is the case...

첨 기폭 (Jian Qi burst): Lift the internal forces, between the increase in a certain attack, attack and enhance the duration depends on the skill level.
Level 0	44	N / A	20	12% increase in maximum attack 18 seconds
Level 1	44	8000	25	15% increase in maximum attack 24 seconds
Level 2	47	14000	30	Increase 18% maximum attack 30 seconds
Level 3	50	20000	35	Increase 21% maximum attack 36 seconds

Sam

Maximum attack could be interpreted as your full DC stat i guess, inc min


while we're on the subject, is the spell meant to have a global cooldown after it's cast?

I've found that if I activate it while already in the process of hitting a boss/mob, i can't tdb or fs after, which means i will hit 2/3 basic attacks losing alot of dps

 

[WhyPk]

Re: Rage "bug"

welcome to Mir Chronicles:P

Cheers.

Any reason as to why this skill was "nerfed" in the transition?

I didn't put bug between " " 's for no reason.

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I've found that if I activate it while already in the process of hitting a boss/mob, i can't tdb or fs after, which means i will hit 2/3 basic attacks losing alot of dps

Good call, after rage is casted neither tdb nor fs can be charged for a couple of seconds, resulting in unwanted normal hits.

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I quote myself and direct attention to a table based on official wemade...

LCD is going to check official source... I am pretty sure it is working as official.

Sam

Thanks for your reply.

 

[Sanity]

while we're on the subject, is the spell meant to have a global cooldown after it's cast?

I think LionRoar and Entrapment both do this also, cannot cast any skills for 2-3seconds.

 

[DeeKayDee]

I think LionRoar and Entrapment both do this also, cannot cast any skills for 2-3seconds.

LR and Entrap make sense though, because you're not hitting anything .. whereas rage you can be

 

[NorthStar]

I quote myself and direct attention to a table based on official wemade...

LCD is going to check official source... I am pretty sure it is working as official.

Sam

I can't remember on euro to state that i'm 100% sure but I am 100% sure on USA mir2. Rage, Pro Wall, Blessed Armour, Soul Shield all provided you with base stats equal to the top end. I think if you make the mods to follow this it would be a good buff for taos and wars thats not going to be game changing in the slightest.

Thoughts?

 

[KylerStern]

Increasing MIN AC is a bad shout you will become immune to so many mobs its just silly.

IMO only AGIL should allow you not to get hit. everything else should always hit at least 1.

 

[d1craig]

what it did from what i can rember on servers ive played - DC would be xx% higher bottom DC and xx% higher top DC. same with profield from all my memories.

im not sure if it took the top end DC as what was added to min/max.

10% increase from 10-60 would be 16-66 or would it be 11-66 cant rember that part.

 

[WhyPk]

I can't remember on euro to state that i'm 100% sure but I am 100% sure on USA mir2. Rage, Pro Wall, Blessed Armour, Soul Shield all provided you with base stats equal to the top end. I think if you make the mods to follow this it would be a good buff for taos and wars thats not going to be game changing in the slightest.

Thoughts?

I don't remember blessed armour/soul shield ever giving minimum stat increase on mir2 euro.

I do remember rage adding the same percentile to both minimum and maximum stat, going off the maximum stat.

E,g, dc0-100 and 15% from rage level 1 would give an end dc of 15-115. (15%-15% bonus)

Not sure about protection field. I am however sure it did add minimum aswell as maximum, dont know by what order though.

 

[Samuel]

OK we checked the official code and can confirm that Rage did... NOT increase minimum DC. LCD also checked Ruby and that also did not increase minimum DC, nor did 2.3

Sam

 

[neptuneshaun]

I can't remember on euro to state that i'm 100% sure but I am 100% sure on USA mir2. Rage, Pro Wall, Blessed Armour, Soul Shield all provided you with base stats equal to the top end. I think if you make the mods to follow this it would be a good buff for taos and wars thats not going to be game changing in the slightest.

Thoughts?

Euro never had any min stats for AC or AMC increase buff, neither did Rage and Profiled it was always top end that was added. I remember this being a uproar as magicbooster add's min MC as well as max mc.

Increasing MIN AC is a bad shout you will become immune to so many mobs its just silly.

IMO only AGIL should allow you not to get hit. everything else should always hit at least 1.

minimum AC and AMC should work as intended along side Agil, although Agil never seemed to work on any mir server including officials.

 

[KylerStern]

Euro never had any min stats for AC or AMC increase buff, neither did Rage and Profiled it was always top end that was added. I remember this being a uproar as magicbooster add's min MC as well as max mc.


minimum AC and AMC should work as intended along side Agil, although Agil never seemed to work on any mir server including officials.

Yeah it does work as intended, by point was that the intention is flawed and has been since the game launched (PVE Wise)

 

[NorthStar]

Increasing MIN AC is a bad shout you will become immune to so many mobs its just silly.

IMO only AGIL should allow you not to get hit. everything else should always hit at least 1.

I don't agree, it was 20 base Ac before you would never be hit by archers in bdd. Even with a tao in standard kit +hs blessed armour only adds 8 Ac. So even if it added 8-8 it would still mean sacrificing other stats to achieve 20 base Ac on most chars.

 

[ILovePie:D]

I don't agree, it was 20 base Ac before you would never be hit by archers in bdd. Even with a tao in standard kit +hs blessed armour only adds 8 Ac. So even if it added 8-8 it would still mean sacrificing other stats to achieve 20 base Ac on most chars.

You can hit 20 Base AC on a wizard in heaven armour, using BIH etc. Not a bad kit for TUing in, if you never get hit by archers.

 

[d1craig]

OK we checked the official code and can confirm that Rage did... NOT increase minimum DC. LCD also checked Ruby and that also did not increase minimum DC, nor did 2.3

Sam

ok thats great but what about changing it so it does give min DC? would be a little boost to warriors, imo they do need a boost.

what about pro field? adding max AC isnt very useful imo. min AC should be the priority for this spell.